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For the Vehicle Gun and Object Makers - Some MIAs
« on: March 04, 2011, 05:39:25 PM »

Greetings All,

                  This is a big post, but...I endeavoured to present "families" of objects which would allow several conversions from a base mod. It seemed logical to my non-modding mind. I hope someone out there is inspired by one or two of these...
                 Here are some Vehicles/Guns that I think might be
Pt 1    Frankenfied from existing models ,
Pt 2    Historically important but unrepresented in IL2 (as far as I know)

Part 1 Frankenversions....

SPW 251 Family
From the stock SPW 251/1




SPW 251/2  81mm Mortar Schlepper  2 in each PzGdr HW Pltn
Move the AAMG to a rear hull mount, add an 81mm Mortar and 3 crewmen


SPW 251/7 Pioniere Vehicle Bridging



SPW 251/9   75mmL24 Howitzer  2 in each PzGdr HW Pltn
Take the L24 Howitzer from the PzkwIVE, and place in the front of the SPW251/1




SPW 251/10  3.7mm PaK   Pzgdr Platoon Leader's Vehicle


SPW 251/17  2.0cm FlaK 38 Late War Mobile AAA often two were attached to late war HQ Pltn Pzgdr Coy


SPW 251/22   7.5cm PaK 41 Late war mobile PAK gun


SPW 251 Foot Stuka (Stuka zu foss) 6 x 280mmHE,300mmHE,320mmIncendiary Nebel werfer rockets



To create the early war StuGIIIB : From StuGIIIG stock remove 75mm L48, AAMG, smoke Mortars, comand cupola,schuerzen


 Add 75L24 howitzer, ...and rectangular hatches to create StuGIIIB, the first operational Sturmgeschutz   1939-1942




From Sherman M4A2/76mm remove CMG,


Extend Cannon Length, add Muzzlebrake, gun support;Create M4A4 Sherman VC Firefly

The QF 17 Pounder AT Cannon which was the MA on the Firefly, and was the most effective Allied anti-tank gun on all fronts pound for pound, , and is currently unrepresented in IL2



AA Trucks      2.0cm FlaK LKW


                    3.7cm FlaK LKW



Bofors (Truck Mounted)


To creat the ground mounted towed version of the
2.0cm FlaKvierling 38 , Remove the 4 x20mm from the Whirblewind

Remove the Turret Armour, and add the trails from the 37mm FlaK 36/43


Note the Mags fit into each breech laterally



Sdkfz 7/1   7 tonne soft  halftrack with 4 x 20mm Flakvierling 38
Enlarge Sdkfz 6 by  approx. 10% (to create Sdkfz 7 tonne) and add Flakvierling 38



M51 4 x .50 cal Gun Trailer This is the same weapon on the M16 MGMC halftrack, mounted on a trailer, usually towed by a small truck or jeep


Unlimbered





Part 2   Ideas requiring some work from scratch....

PzkwMKI



                                                                       Panzer Jaeger I
Panzer I Chassis fitted with a captured Czech Skoda 47mm ATG

Marder I  Panzer Jaeger - Panzer Mk I chassis fitted with either a PaK 40 75mm ATG, or a captured Russian 76.2 Field Gun modified for Anti-tank use.


                                                                                           
sIG IB Self propelled 150mm howitzer
   

PSW 221 Early war 4 rad armoured car family 1939...
PSW 221   4 rad (wheeled) AC MG34 armament,AA capable


PSW 222   4 rad  20mmKwK 30 or 38 MA, MG34 AAMG


PSW 223   Command vehicle with aerial (as per SPW 251/3)

                                                             



Staghound Mk I 37mm Main Armament, .50 cal MG


Staghound Mk II AA


Staghound CS (Close Support)  76mm Howitzer


SPW 251 Family

SPW 251/3     Radio Command Vehicle ; this aerial is also applicable to the PSW family
                         

SPW 251/21   Late war FlaK wagen  triple x 15mm autocannon
                 

Universal Carrier - In my opinion, the ubiquitous Universal is the most important omitted vehicle in the game with over 113,000 !!! built.

With Bren .303 cal AAMG   and Bren Bow MG                   


With Bren .303 BMG


With Vickers HMG .30 cal 

Late War (Canadian Field Mod) with .50 cal and AA Bren .303 MG


With 3" (76mm) Mortar



As transport/weapons carrier


For Towing Light Guns


British Artillery

British 2 Pounder (40mm)  ATG Early War British ATG 1939-1943


2 Pounder "En Portee"


British 6 Pounder ATG


...roughly equivalent to the US 57mm ATG


QF 17 Pounder ATG (76.2mm)   Best ATG of the war for the Western Allies, and as good as any of its contemporaries in any army


British 25 Pounder Field Artillery - 88mm Main British Field Gun, and one of the best of its kind


French

Schneider 75mm Mdle 1897 ubiquitous Field Gun used by many nations before, during and after WWII
Early Model


Late Model



US M15MGMC halftrack. Same halftrack as the M16, armed with 2 x .50 cal AA and 1 x 37mm AA
US Gunners learned to open fire on Axis aircraft at long range only with the .50s, and lure them closer to be finished off by the 37mm. It would be nice if this behaviour could be coded into AI.



Nebelwerfer 41 15cm Rocket Trailer



Towed by a Horch Kfz 15



MG34/42 Zwilling AA Groundmount


Here's one for fun :  8 x 7.92 MG pedestal mount !!!


US M10 Tank Destroyer - from the M4 Chassis; an open topped TD with MA 3" Naval Gun and .50 cal AA MG



M10 Achilles - Late War Commonwealth variant with the QF 17 Pounder as MA and .50 cal AAMG













 
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