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Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« on: August 09, 2015, 09:27:46 PM »

Hello there...

The Chaco war was the most important conflict of the Twenty Century in Latin América, and saw the extensive use of aircraft.

Bolívia purchased nine Curtiss Hawk II, wich were used from 1933 to the end of the war in 1935. At the end of the conflict, in June 1935, only three of them survived.

The paint scheme was in many publications wrongly shown, but after a lot of research now the real aspect of the Bolivian Hawks II is finally known. Such findings were published in the book "Aircraft of the Chaco War 1928-1935", with many photografs never published before.




The nine planes were numbered as follow: 30, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44, 46, 48.

The only personalization known was applied on plane #40, and was an inscription in black "El Tigre", under the cockpit on the left fuselage side, of wich exists photographic evidence. This personalization was applied at a later stage of the war.



The tactical numbers were painted only on the vertical fin.

There is evidence about a unit marking that was applied on some of the Hawks II, in the shape of a cross, but the only image I was able to find is this one, wich is not of good quality...

Maybe a better rendering can be found in this screenshot of a faked Hawk II based on another mod plane for our beloved sim, author Real Darko:


It would be interesting if someone with the necessary skills in skinning would take on the task of making a set of skins for the Bolivian Hawks II based on the Nakajima A2N2 that Gio so kindly provided...
There already are some few Chaco War related campaigns, and the shape of the little Japanese fighter is fairly close resembling the Hawk II, with little differences. The most notable is the landing gear, but IMHO no one will complain about it...

Thank you in advance...

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Re: Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 12:52:04 AM »

my old skin on aviaskins may be useful to you.
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=2591
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Re: Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2015, 07:33:59 PM »

Thank you Stalker and Poltava...
Yes I know about the F6C Hawk frankenplane used as Hawk II....
But I think the shape of the Nakajima A2N2 that Gio did would fit better the role. The tail and the wings are a better match to the original, And maybe adding the spats to the undercarriage will add that magic touch.

Logically, a true Hawk II 3d model would be the best solution.... But this would be a topic for the new stuff requests, and not for skins...

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Re: Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2015, 09:16:56 PM »

Captain Diavolo,
           Here are a few that I made using Stalker's A2N template. There are eight skins.
Enjoy
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https://www.mediafire.com/download/3wvn6g35br23b3r

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Re: Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2015, 09:34:00 PM »

Thank you very much, Zflyer48 !

I don't want to abuse of your kindness, but please can you rework this skin:

with an aluminium (not red) engine cowling?

Thank you, Buddy! :)
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Re: Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2015, 09:55:46 AM »

As requested, Capitan Diavolo.  I have included an all aluminum skin also.
Pardon my English "Captain" in my last post.
Happy Flying and Smooth Landings
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Re: Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2015, 01:50:57 PM »

Here's  "El Tigre" black 40 to add to ZFLYER's skin collection. Made with Stalker's template. Enjoy.

https://www.mediafire.com/view/7p613869f8dyvss/Bolivian%20Hawk%20II%2040.bmp#

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Re: Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2015, 02:53:46 PM »

Nice, dona.  Added to my collection.
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Re: Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2015, 09:07:30 PM »

Thank you Z! :D

And that El Tigre looks great, Dona...

I'm working on the template, too.... Re-drawing all the panels lines to achieve a more correct thing... Will post some pictures when I'll have something to show.

Cheers!

PS... The rank is meant to be "Capitano di Vascello" this is a Navy rank. The corresponding rank of the Army or Air Force is that of Colonel.
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Re: Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2015, 02:18:57 AM »

Yes I know about the F6C Hawk frankenplane used as Hawk II....
But I think the shape of the Nakajima A2N2 that Gio did would fit better the role. The tail and the wings are a better match to the original, And maybe adding the spats to the undercarriage will add that magic touch.

Logically, a true Hawk II 3d model would be the best solution.... But this would be a topic for the new stuff requests, and not for skins...

Yes, I think you are right on both counts: the frankenplane is ok, but this one is more like the real Hawk II.
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Re: Curtiss Hawk II Bolivia, Chaco War...
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2015, 05:48:59 AM »

Here the new panel lines... it is still a WIP...




Is there something else that I can do to improve it? Asking because I'm not a true skinner... So any advice and support is more than welcome...

If a true skinner wants to jump in and help, I'll gladly accept.

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