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[Semor]

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[RAECHER]

Can't wait!

[capun]

I don't know if this is the correct thread to ask this question. I glanced through the threads but could not find the data I am looking for.
 I need the actual ammo load for the Bf-109E-1 nose and wing guns. Some books and internet site say 1000 rpg for the nose guns, some say 500 rpg. Wing gun ammo loads are quoted as either 420 or 500 rpg. The Bf-109C/D Nose guns are supposed to be 500 rpg and AFIK it was carried over into the E-1.
 Thanks

[jg1234]

Hi Folks,

I had a quick question before considering if this BF-109 pack will work for me.

I am running IL2 1946 4.10.1 with Modact 3.06 installed and no other mods.  Do I need the latest buttons files to use this Bf-109 pack ??

Thank You very much.

-jg1234

[SAS~Gerax]

I am running IL2 1946 4.10.1 with Modact 3.06 installed and no other mods. 
Do I need the latest buttons files to use this Bf-109 pack ??

From the first post:

YOU WILL REQUIRE LATER UNIFIED BUTTONS FROM THE SPECIAL AIRCRAFT SERVICE:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,97.0.html

and

Installation:
1) Ensure you are running a 4.101m install with latest SAS Buttons...
before running the installer

so yes, you need the latest button for 4.10.1 
Use the working link above to get it.

For the rest: follow Antos install instruction by the letter
and there should be no problems. 

[jg1234]

Thanks SAS~Gerax,

I appreciate the quick response. I'll grab the latest buttons file.

Cheers - jg1234

[Starfighter24]

Does this pack work on 4.12?

EDIT: I've seen the new pack that works with 4.12! Sorry!

[rojo3]

And over 4.13 ?

[bestekampfpilot58]

Hey guys,
How's it going?

In Il2 4.12.2m I just ran a trial mission dealing with the appearance of the center mounted ETC drop tank
on various models of the Bf109.
I loaded up a Bf109E7, F2, F4, G2, G6, G10, G14 and a Bf109K-4. I ran the sim and looked at all of these aircraft
head on. I had seen what I thought was a graphical error several weeks ago, but what I saw just within the last
hour confirmed it. With the exception of the Bf109E7, ALL of the other Bf109s had their drop tanks not mounted center
line of the fuselage, but off-set to the left!!  This is a easily seen error, and I wonder has this error been seen by anyone
else in the past?   
This error is visually easy to see, just look at the aircraft head on, can't be missed!
I also noticed the gap between the ETC rack and the fuselage... Is there a 'fix' for this gap, and the drop tank 'off-set?'
Has anyone else seen the off-center error?
Thanks guys!

Horrido!

[OberstDanjeje]

Hey guys,
How's it going?

In Il2 4.12.2m I just ran a trial mission dealing with the appearance of the center mounted ETC drop tank
on various models of the Bf109.
I loaded up a Bf109E7, F2, F4, G2, G6, G10, G14 and a Bf109K-4. I ran the sim and looked at all of these aircraft
head on. I had seen what I thought was a graphical error several weeks ago, but what I saw just within the last
hour confirmed it. With the exception of the Bf109E7, ALL of the other Bf109s had their drop tanks not mounted center
line of the fuselage, but off-set to the left!!  This is a easily seen error, and I wonder has this error been seen by anyone
else in the past?   
This error is visually easy to see, just look at the aircraft head on, can't be missed!
I also noticed the gap between the ETC rack and the fuselage... Is there a 'fix' for this gap, and the drop tank 'off-set?'
Has anyone else seen the off-center error?
Thanks guys!

Horrido!

The ETC was really mounted offset to the center so is not a mistake
Maybe some expert could confirm this too but I'm quite sure it was done on purpose to balance the aircraft

[Mick]

... well I didn't know that, and it looks you're right ... 

"Among the most interesting points of this feature is the exceptional clarity of the offset fuel tank mounting which was common to all 109F models and later... note that while the fairing and four anti-sway braces are offset from the center line, the actual retaining mechanism for the tank is mounted along the centerline axis.  This is to allow clearance for the fuel and pressurized air piping to run down into the tank"

Source:

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/walkaround/199.178/199.178.htm

And here a 109 K4 plastic kit:

[SAS~Storebror]

Same understanding here.
At least from the "Friedrich" onwards, the ETC was mounted 40mm to the left.
I think I've read somewhere that this was not the case for the E-7.
To understand this, one must know that the E-7 was the first 109 to be "officially" equipped with the ability to carry a droptank on the wet ETC at all (previously, the E-4 had no fuel line on the ETC rack).
At that time the aerodynamical difficulties which resulted in the port side offset installation of the F model and onwards might not have been fully revealed.
This would also explain why at the time when the E-7 became available with droptanks, it wasn't used operationally with them, even though the fighter sqaudrons massively demanded droptanks for their operations in the battle of britain (a lack of additional oil for the longer sorties might have contributed to this decision).

See 109F droptank installation drawings here (click for full size):


Best regards - Mike