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[Avala]

Don't know if you had already saw these. Two wonderful short movies.

The German:

A British fighter pilot pursues the german ace that shot down his friend across sky and country... with murder in mind. But he discovers it's not so easy to kill a man when you have to look them in the eye

A Lonely Sky:

In 1947, a test pilot who risks his life to break the sound barrier, is forced to question his reasons and abilities by a strange yet familiar man. Starring Keir Dullea (2001, A Space Odyssey) Paudge Behan (Veronica Guerin) and Padraic Delaney (The Wind that Shakes the Barley).

[LuseKofte]

The second I never seen and thank you for sharing. The first one was good to see again so thank you again

[SAS~Loku]

About "The German",how they both survived that mid air collision ?? They should be dead.

[LuseKofte]

That would kinda ruined the point wouldnt it 

[Avala]

"Artistic license" 

[Thunda]

Ive got some major problems with 'the german'- like how you can accidently fly over the irish sea without realising!!!  ::)And much as the effects were nice, the idea you could collide like that, loose a wing but then bounce slightly to a halt, get out, then chase someone across a field and have a gun fight- I think 'artistic license' is an understatement- the beginning sequence was quite nice, but I think it was produced by the Irish Tourism Board "during the war, 240 Allied & German servicemen were interned under the Neutrality law (!!?)- after the war, many of them stayed and became Irish citizens (LMAO!)" What? They enjoyed their internment so much, they didnt want to go home? I think not....

[elephant]

About "The German",how they both survived that mid air collision ?? They should be dead.

Also why to collide with him in the first place?
Like where he was going to go, in that state, if as he seemingly believed, they were over Britain's soil?
Out of vengeance for his friend?
Pretty dumb!

[LuseKofte]

Ive got some major problems with 'the german'- like how you can accidently fly over the irish sea without realising!!!  ::)And much as the effects were nice, the idea you could collide like that, loose a wing but then bounce slightly to a halt, get out, then chase someone across a field and have a gun fight- I think 'artistic license' is an understatement- the beginning sequence was quite nice, but I think it was produced by the Irish Tourism Board "during the war, 240 Allied & German servicemen were interned under the Neutrality law (!!?)- after the war, many of them stayed and became Irish citizens (LMAO!)" What? They enjoyed their internment so much, they didnt want to go home? I think not....

In BOB there where insidents where new pilots From British side landed in France and became POW they had lost theyre way and thought  they landed home. It did also occure with an Italian pilot of an CR 42 Landing in a English field beliving he was in France. That plane is now in a Museum in UK. And if you read the title it was many who was trapped in Ireland during WWII

[Avala]

Internees in Ireland are not made up. There is also very fine movie about that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brylcreem_Boys

http://www.videodetective.com/movies/trailers/the-brylcreem-boys-trailer/7216

Of course, all the rest is far from any realism, but I guess it serves the point in the movie. The German, I mean.

[Avala]

Here is another one short movie. But totally artsy-fartsy 

http://smotri.com/video/view/?id=v18774021f63

[shooter]

Do you think a German in Ireland would have not chosen to stay rather than die? My father was from a small town between Berlin and Leipzig. POW in England. Upon release, his home had been Soviet-occupied = he would have had a very short life as a slave labourer if he had returned to Germany. So he stayed in England.
And in a dogfight over the Irish Sea, with a damaged aircraft, where are you going to land? The closest bit of dry ground you can reach.

Ive got some major problems with 'the german'- like how you can accidently fly over the irish sea without realising!!!  ::)And much as the effects were nice, the idea you could collide like that, loose a wing but then bounce slightly to a halt, get out, then chase someone across a field and have a gun fight- I think 'artistic license' is an understatement- the beginning sequence was quite nice, but I think it was produced by the Irish Tourism Board "during the war, 240 Allied & German servicemen were interned under the Neutrality law (!!?)- after the war, many of them stayed and became Irish citizens (LMAO!)" What? They enjoyed their internment so much, they didnt want to go home? I think not....

[Thunda]

"Do you think a German in Ireland would have not chosen to stay rather than die?" ok shooter- no need to shout. I get your point about an East German wanting to stay, but I doubt any Brit would want to stay in Eire considering the local atitude towards them. The majority of RAF pilots were disgusted with the Irish for their attitude to the Nazi's- the fact there was no blackout over Ireland assisted the Luftwaffe bombers with navigation at night, and I have read several accounts of RAF nightfighter and bomber pilots looking at the glow coming from Irish towns with great anger.

And as for " in a dogfight over the Irish Sea, with a damaged aircraft, where are you going to land?"- thats my point- there were no dogfights over the Irish sea- a Bf109E couldnt even reach the Irish sea with its range. During the battle of Britain, 109's, flying from their French channel airfields, had a loiter time of 20 mins over the UK- not even enough time to reach the west coast of Wales, let alone have a dogfight over the Irish sea and still have enough fuel to crash land in Ireland.

Im aware that some Axis aircraft landed by accident in the UK (a very famous Fw190 fell into British hands this way) and the reverse with Allied pilots in France, but the English channel is only 20miles across at its shortest part- crossed in very short order in a 1940's fighter, and with low cloud it would be easy to become disorientated. Now go and have a look at where the French Luftwaffe bases were and how wide the Irish sea is.......