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Author Topic: Is it possible to create radar/s such as FuG 218 neptune in IL2 engine ?  (Read 7107 times)

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sputnikshock

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Re: Is it possible to create radar/s such as FuG 218 neptune in IL2 engine ?
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 08:36:36 PM »

Guys, what you see in the video, no matter if it's edited in or a mod, has absolutely nothing to do with an FuG 218 Neptun.
Radar sets in these days were still very primitive. As far as meter wave radar (like the FuG 218) are concerned, their displays were not what you'd call user friendly. Almost all nightfighters of the time had a crew of two (or more), and this was for a good reason. Operating the equipment was a fulltime job, so even if we had a realistic FuG218, you would be busy handling and deciphering this thing. Who would be flying the airplane?
CY6 Command and Control mod approach is actually a very good solution. Sure, it lacks a fancy radar display, but WW2 nightfighter pilots never looked at these IRL. They got guidance from their radio operators until they were able to get visual with the target. So the C&C approach is actually more realistic conceptwise then having a radar screen.
If you haven't tried it yet...do it, it's addictive.
I don't fly Il-2 anymore before in-game sunset ;D.

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Re: Is it possible to create radar/s such as FuG 218 neptune in IL2 engine ?
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 05:05:45 PM »

The one in the video of the Me262 Nachtjager is edited. However, with multicrew coming up in TDs updates, it will be possible(and necessary judging by the footage) to have a radio man. It looks to me as if the Germans just used three oscilloscopes to display incoming radio frequencies. I have no idea how to read those outputs and I'm fairly certain operation required in excess of six keys.
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Re: Is it possible to create radar/s such as FuG 218 neptune in IL2 engine ?
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 05:32:51 PM »

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It looks to me as if the Germans just used three oscilloscopes to display incoming radio frequencies.

The FuG 202 Lichtenstein BC infact did use three scopes. Two A-scopes, one to display angular deviation of azimuth, the other one to display angular deviation of elevation, and a J-scope, to display range. On the J-scope range was presented similar to a radial gauge.


J-scope


J-, A- and A-scopes

In later radar sets (i.e. FuG 212 Lichtenstein C-1, FuG 220 Lichtenstein SN-2, FuG 218 Neptun) the J-scope was dropped, as one of the A-scopes (usually the azimuth one) was calibrated so range could be read from it as well.

Since these radars operated in the meter wavelength, there was almost always ground clutter visible in the scopes. Also, contacts displayed simply as amplitude peaks and the whole thing looked more like an oscilloscope than what we would call a radar screen today.
It had nothing to do with anything like 'dots on a map'.

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Re: Is it possible to create radar/s such as FuG 218 neptune in IL2 engine ?
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 07:48:50 PM »

Ah, that's brilliant. That's a very nicely informed piece you wrote there too. I like it when people back up things with facts.
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