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[P.Funk]

I extracted everything into the #DWB folder and its not showing up in game.

Is there some step I missed? This is the latest version of both DWB and the F4. Are there steps Im supposed to follow other than just extracting files?

[coenoo1]

Have you added the lines to conf.ini and in plane_ru ? That'll probably be it.

[Kazegami]

I extracted everything into the #DWB folder and its not showing up in game.

Is there some step I missed? This is the latest version of both DWB and the F4. Are there steps Im supposed to follow other than just extracting files?

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1353.0.html
You have to add the lines to air.ini and planes_ru.properties in the STD folder.
Also, you have to extract a .rar file that is inside another .rar file

[P.Funk]

I extracted everything into the #DWB folder and its not showing up in game.

Is there some step I missed? This is the latest version of both DWB and the F4. Are there steps Im supposed to follow other than just extracting files?

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1353.0.html
You have to add the lines to air.ini and planes_ru.properties in the STD folder.
Also, you have to extract a .rar file that is inside another .rar file

Yea... this has always been my gripe with the IL-2 modding community from day 1, and something I've seen in quite a few modding communities - incomplete or inadequate documentation. I literally read that post 5 times and gave up to wait for an answer.

Thank you though.

[mojojojo]

I extracted everything into the #DWB folder and its not showing up in game.

Is there some step I missed? This is the latest version of both DWB and the F4. Are there steps Im supposed to follow other than just extracting files?

to install this plane follow these steps.
1. put the _00_F-4 Phantom II folder into your #DBW folder
2. go to "your il2 main folder"\#DBW\STD\com\maddox\il2\objects.
3. open the file labelled "Air"
4. copy and paste the following lines in anywhere beneath where it says "[AIR]"
here are the lines:
F-4B              air.F_4B 2                            NOINFO  usa01 SUMMER
F-4D              air.F_4D 2                            NOINFO  usa01 SUMMER
F-4E              air.F_4E 2                            NOINFO  usa01 SUMMER
F-4J              air.F_4J 2                            NOINFO  usa01 SUMMER
5. OPTIONAL (if this step confuses you, skip it)
in "your il2 main folder"\#DBW\STD\i18n, open the plane_ru. copy and past the following lines anywhere into it.
here are the lines:
F-4B                 F-4B, 1960
F-4D                 F-4D, 1966
F-4E                 F-4E, 1967
F-4J                 F-4J, 1967
NOTE: feel free to change the last section to whatever you want. these entries effect what the plane will be labelled in the game. the first part identifies which plane you are talking about, and the second part effects it's actual name. for example if you wanted to call the F-4J "my favorite plane", you would simply change the line for the F-4J to:
F-4J                 my favorite plane
plane_ru lines are often featured in mods, yet they are never necessary. the same goes for weapons_ru lines, although this plane doesn't have any.
6. start DBW
7. yay
hope this helped.
these are the basic steps for installing a plane. pretty much any mod aircraft you find will be installed this way. the air.ini method can be a hassle, so if you get a 70% CTD (crash to desktop), make sure you added the lines right.

[S3231541]

I extracted everything into the #DWB folder and its not showing up in game.

Is there some step I missed? This is the latest version of both DWB and the F4. Are there steps Im supposed to follow other than just extracting files?

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1353.0.html
You have to add the lines to air.ini and planes_ru.properties in the STD folder.
Also, you have to extract a .rar file that is inside another .rar file

Yea... this has always been my gripe with the IL-2 modding community from day 1, and something I've seen in quite a few modding communities - incomplete or inadequate documentation. I literally read that post 5 times and gave up to wait for an answer.

Thank you though.

Dude, that link is the "documentation" you need to install an aircraft. It is complete, more adequate than any answer we provided. Read that 5 times? I used to read that like 100 times before I could make my first mod plane into game . Have you even try to DIY? Do it yourself? Or you expect us to hand feed you for your own convienient? Why should we do that? If you can give me a good answer, I'll do it for you no problem.

Cheers, and good luck

S3

[P.Funk]

I extracted everything into the #DWB folder and its not showing up in game.

Is there some step I missed? This is the latest version of both DWB and the F4. Are there steps Im supposed to follow other than just extracting files?

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1353.0.html
You have to add the lines to air.ini and planes_ru.properties in the STD folder.
Also, you have to extract a .rar file that is inside another .rar file

Yea... this has always been my gripe with the IL-2 modding community from day 1, and something I've seen in quite a few modding communities - incomplete or inadequate documentation. I literally read that post 5 times and gave up to wait for an answer.

Thank you though.

Dude, that link is the "documentation" you need to install an aircraft. It is complete, more adequate than any answer we provided. Read that 5 times? I used to read that like 100 times before I could make my first mod plane into game . Have you even try to DIY? Do it yourself? Or you expect us to hand feed you for your own convienient? Why should we do that? If you can give me a good answer, I'll do it for you no problem.

Cheers, and good luck

S3

With all due respect that link is nowhere in the first post for this thread nor the one linked in the first post where you download it. The entries for the .ini files are just put in there without any instructions, the installation instructions are explained at the bottom of the post separate from the .ini entires and if you assume that I don't know how you install planes cause I never have because I always just used packs and left it at that then maybe you can understand why it isn't so plainly obvious to me. I've been a part of community modding for sims before and its never seemed so absurd to mod creators that they'd want to actually be clear how to install their mods. The problem is that people who get into these niche communities often end up being blind to how little people understand because they just assume you know how the mod works. If I've never used these mods before I'd be instantly discouraged and probably a lot of people would say 'screw it' rather than go looking for a link to another thread that explains how planes are installed when the first post just says "All you have to do is drop them in the folders". When you start having 4.10.1, 4.11, UP3, HSFX, DBW, its a lot to think about and its just frustrating when there isn't one bold phrase that says 'btw if you don't know how to install planes read this'.

I'm not trying to be a dick but I hate that dismissive attitude. You don't want to have to 'do all the work' for us so we can enjoy your mod? Talk about taking people for granted. You should want people to have no doubts at all about how to use the mod so that they think its great. Without them the mod has no value so forgive me if I think thats a bit arrogant. I gave up cause even if I thought 'okay there's an air.ini' then I have no idea where it is and I spent enough time downloading and installing DBW just to try this mod out and I chose to actually play the game while I waited for help.

Its a great mod, I can't wait to see more from it. But I know I'm right. From the earliest days of AAA I just looked at the mess of it and got a headache thinking about getting help if something didn't work properly. Most of the time I just gave up on anything that gave me a CTD. Thinking back to my days in the Silent Hunter 3 community I remember how if had any problems you'd get scores of people both from the mods and just who played helping you til it was fixed. Not that that was a problem most of the time cause you had documentation and instructions coming out of your ears. Without a doubt this is a much more mature atmosphere than AAA was but there are still inconsistencies for those of us not fully indoctrinated into how these mods work.

But I don't expect anyone to listen, I'm not inside the modding community. I'm just an irrelevant person from without who popped in to try something out. I must be a fool then.

Good day, and good luck with your mods.

BTW thank you mojo for that detailed answer. Thats the kind of thing I was looking for.

[mojojojo]

your welcome

[S3231541]

Hi P.Funk,

Relax, LOL, so long as you can enjoy the mods, no need for such lengthly discussion 

cheers,

s3

[he162a]

Thanks for all the hard work to start with.


Looks great, flys like a turd on fire. I love the lumbering response of this this big thing. Been having a blast attacking convoys on south east Asia maps.

Reading through the posts I was embarrassed for the guy complaining away about what to do. I was pissed/confused when I first saw that extra rar., but then remembered it was mentioned that it would have two file included.  I bet a guy like that hasn't even screwed up six installs yet, SSShhheeezzzz!!!

[coenoo1]

Looks great, flys like a turd on fire.

Nice! 

[mojojojo]

I extracted everything into the #DWB folder and its not showing up in game.

Is there some step I missed? This is the latest version of both DWB and the F4. Are there steps Im supposed to follow other than just extracting files?

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1353.0.html
You have to add the lines to air.ini and planes_ru.properties in the STD folder.
Also, you have to extract a .rar file that is inside another .rar file

Yea... this has always been my gripe with the IL-2 modding community from day 1, and something I've seen in quite a few modding communities - incomplete or inadequate documentation. I literally read that post 5 times and gave up to wait for an answer.

Thank you though.

Dude, that link is the "documentation" you need to install an aircraft. It is complete, more adequate than any answer we provided. Read that 5 times? I used to read that like 100 times before I could make my first mod plane into game . Have you even try to DIY? Do it yourself? Or you expect us to hand feed you for your own convienient? Why should we do that? If you can give me a good answer, I'll do it for you no problem.

Cheers, and good luck

S3

With all due respect that link is nowhere in the first post for this thread nor the one linked in the first post where you download it. The entries for the .ini files are just put in there without any instructions, the installation instructions are explained at the bottom of the post separate from the .ini entires and if you assume that I don't know how you install planes cause I never have because I always just used packs and left it at that then maybe you can understand why it isn't so plainly obvious to me. I've been a part of community modding for sims before and its never seemed so absurd to mod creators that they'd want to actually be clear how to install their mods. The problem is that people who get into these niche communities often end up being blind to how little people understand because they just assume you know how the mod works. If I've never used these mods before I'd be instantly discouraged and probably a lot of people would say 'screw it' rather than go looking for a link to another thread that explains how planes are installed when the first post just says "All you have to do is drop them in the folders". When you start having 4.10.1, 4.11, UP3, HSFX, DBW, its a lot to think about and its just frustrating when there isn't one bold phrase that says 'btw if you don't know how to install planes read this'.

I'm not trying to be a dick but I hate that dismissive attitude. You don't want to have to 'do all the work' for us so we can enjoy your mod? Talk about taking people for granted. You should want people to have no doubts at all about how to use the mod so that they think its great. Without them the mod has no value so forgive me if I think thats a bit arrogant. I gave up cause even if I thought 'okay there's an air.ini' then I have no idea where it is and I spent enough time downloading and installing DBW just to try this mod out and I chose to actually play the game while I waited for help.

Its a great mod, I can't wait to see more from it. But I know I'm right. From the earliest days of AAA I just looked at the mess of it and got a headache thinking about getting help if something didn't work properly. Most of the time I just gave up on anything that gave me a CTD. Thinking back to my days in the Silent Hunter 3 community I remember how if had any problems you'd get scores of people both from the mods and just who played helping you til it was fixed. Not that that was a problem most of the time cause you had documentation and instructions coming out of your ears. Without a doubt this is a much more mature atmosphere than AAA was but there are still inconsistencies for those of us not fully indoctrinated into how these mods work.

But I don't expect anyone to listen, I'm not inside the modding community. I'm just an irrelevant person from without who popped in to try something out. I must be a fool then.

Good day, and good luck with your mods.

BTW thank you mojo for that detailed answer. Thats the kind of thing I was looking for.

documentation was quite frustrating for me when i was learning how to install planes, but nobody expects modders to write thousand-line explicit, highly detailed guides for installing mods. i you ask me, there should be a short set of instructions that modders copy/paste at the bottom of there posts. this would be handy and a useful new method to prevent a flood of comments saying "how do i install it?"