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[gauntka]

Hi All!
Here is other Fw-190 nachtjager, Ju-88 and He 219 variant (yes-yes CFS 3 models =( )
http://www.regshanger.com/Regs%20hanger%20main/CFS3%20Aircaft/Ju88/Ju88.htm
http://www.regshanger.com/Regs%20hanger%20main/CFS3%20Aircaft/He219/He219.htm
http://www.regshanger.com/Regs%20hanger%20main/CFS3%20Aircaft/Fw190/Wildsau.html

[Flanker35M]

S!

 To the question about planes slower in winter than summer. Well, fighter pilots at work enjoy the cold winter as their jets get more thrust in colder air thus better perfromance with less throttle. At summer takeoff runs are longer due warm air. For a charged piston engine, compare to a car with turbo and intercooler, the colder the air coming in the better thus more HP If taking the logic that because air is thinner at summer then the planes should climb worse during summertime, less air to keep the plane up So I beg to differ that planes are slower or worse during winter. Take in account also that during winter the cooling system is under less strain thus radiators keep themselves more closed = less drag leads to more speed So IMO if IL2 engine makes planes slower during winter it is a clear bug, not "fidelity" of it.

 Back to topic, nice plane to be used on later war maps as strafer

[r4xm]

S!

 To the question about planes slower in winter than summer. Well, fighter pilots at work enjoy the cold winter as their jets get more thrust in colder air thus better perfromance with less throttle. At summer takeoff runs are longer due warm air. For a charged piston engine, compare to a car with turbo and intercooler, the colder the air coming in the better thus more HP If taking the logic that because air is thinner at summer then the planes should climb worse during summertime, less air to keep the plane up So I beg to differ that planes are slower or worse during winter. Take in account also that during winter the cooling system is under less strain thus radiators keep themselves more closed = less drag leads to more speed So IMO if IL2 engine makes planes slower during winter it is a clear bug, not "fidelity" of it.

 Back to topic, nice plane to be used on later war maps as strafer

+1 

[WEASELWAGON]

"We did not post the nightfighter because it seems it is being developed for an official add on. I have not heard back from Maraz yet about it."

Does anyone know Maraz?
Perhaps someone can convince him to release a small patch to put some antenna's on the 88.
From earlier posts both here and at AAA,the JU88 has been flying around,with proper radar antenna and proper forward firing weapons,for years
on some developer's PC.......it's just that someone somewhere somehow knows that the community wont be happy unless its part of a "pack",released
with vitally important planes from Major Powers such as a 50's era crop-dusting plane from Sweden and a Towed Glider used extensively in Rwanda in the 1920's.
These Heavy Hitters and all the action they promise will of course require Cirx to spend yet another few hours getting it to work right for the guy like me
who prefers to put new stuff in my game the old fashioned way,without some "pack" that screws up everything else.
Anybody who knows Maraz,Please,just a small patch for antennas right now......

[SAS~GJE52]

Daywalker into Nightwalker...

If someone would like to put this aircraft into a separate slot for me, (as I still cant do that bit) the addition of the FUG 0 or FUFG 200 antennas is not difficult (see posts for ME 410 and Go229B), given slightly longer I could even create some specialized ones, and it could be done quite quickly..   

I once posted a MOD on AAA with them on the original Glass fronted Ju 88, and got a ear-bashing from a purist for putting them on the wrong  variant... so deleted it and lost the original work after one of my frequent IL2 disasters (before I knew how the MODS file structures work)    one of the reasons I am on this site now 

I am very sensitive the work of other community members though, it is all about respect. I will not step on others projects but if this is not progressing and others want a "temporary" solution which I will  be happy to delete when the "Official" one is finally released, Talk to me. 

If this offends anyone .... tell me and I will delete it.

GJE52

ps I side with Weaselwagon regarding the "Old Fashioned" way as I like to know where things are going...

[r4xm]

Daywalker into Nightwalker...

If someone would like to put this aircraft into a separate slot for me, (as I still cant do that bit) the addition of the FUG 0 or FUFG 200 antennas is not difficult (see posts for ME 410 and Go229B), given slightly longer I could even create some specialized ones, and it could be done quite quickly..   

I once posted a MOD on AAA with them on the original Glass fronted Ju 88, and got a ear-bashing from a purist for putting them on the wrong  variant... so deleted it and lost the original work after one of my frequent IL2 disasters (before I knew how the MODS file structures work)    one of the reasons I am on this site now 

I am very sensitive the work of other community members though, it is all about respect. I will not step on others projects but if this is not progressing and others want a "temporary" solution which I will  be happy to delete when the "Official" one is finally released, Talk to me. 

If this offends anyone .... tell me and I will delete it.

GJE52

+1,000,000.-

[WEASELWAGON]

GJE52,

Cirx cant do this because he,being the head honcho here,is held to a higher level of responsibility.
He cant go and crack this himself and then post it here.But if someone else here were to do it,
it would be a mod-noone has officially stated "we are releasing a JU88C Nightfighter on Feb 20 2010".
As a matter of fact Cirx has stated in this thread that if someone else were to do it there would be no problem.

Look at it this way.If you think it would be impolite to jump in and preempt someone else's work with an
 earlier release,isnt it the needs of the many that outweigh the needs of the few?
Does not the community need for this important addition outweigh the bragging rights that the first one to release this would have?
To look at it this way,one would actually conclude that guys developing something who discourage other simultaneous development of
a similar project are actually harming the community by hindering faster developement that could be potentially higher quality than their own.
This is actually monopolizing development,not helping it....

[SAS~CirX]

Glynn, as you know, in HSFX, the antennaes of the 88 nighfighter are included, they are just invoisible in the hier. I did ask about this, and it seemed that the creator prefered this to remain so because the nightfighter was slated for TD, or some such.

I totally respect that, and so, when we cut it out for here, the antennaes were removed completely.

But, you know, there were many variant of Ju88 nightfighter, and, were I to do 3d, what I would do would be to remove the lower gondola and flatten the lower end, so we can put a 4 canon gunpod in there, make the tail square and put other antenaes on it, like from the 110G4, and start doing the whole G series from there on....

That would be a lot better,and , step on far fewer toes.

[SAS~CirX]

http://www.hyperscale.com/2008/features/ju88g648cw_1.htm

[SAS~GJE52]

"But, you know, there were many variant of Ju88 nightfighter, and, were I to do 3d, what I would do would be to remove the lower gondola and flatten the lower end, so we can put a 4 canon gunpod in there, make the tail square and put other antenaes on it, like from the 110G4, and start doing the whole G series from there on...."


Hmm...  oh wise one .. food for thought I think... we are truely not worthy 


G

[WEASELWAGON]

Ranwers posted a notice of intent on a JU88G over at AAA on October 28 2008.

There still is no JU88G.

Seeing how much work 3D modeling can be,perhaps it would'nt be such a bad idea to
petition/ask/beg/demand a small patch to put the damned antennas on.
Some potential reasons to state could be phrased politely as:

1. "You know there wouldnt have been a difference if we left the antennas on,anyway-if wouldnt have made the slightest change in your pack"

2."Other guys have expressed desire to work on it and release it-you're holding them up"

3."whats taking you so long to release your pack,anyway?"

Give me some contact info,I'll take the heat.

[r4xm]

I remember on AAA there was a mod with antennas to add them to BF110G2 (so to say as an option). May be it's possible to do the same with the JU88C6 mod? Just to add antennas to the plane as an option for those who wants them?...