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HusarderLuft

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Animated flags on carriers
« on: March 17, 2012, 11:01:15 PM »

I think this is a pretty good idea - they are 'stationary' and look dead -  :-X



they need to 'move' a little
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Re: Animated flags on carriers
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2012, 11:38:02 PM »

What you are asking is quite hard to do.

The game doesn't really support cloth animation, which would be the "proper" way of doing it.

Simulating cloth animation doesn't sound feasible either. You could sort of fake it with animated texture with transparent edges, BUT, that means you would need three things:

1. Having the flag with an independent texture.

2. Support for animated texture for the flag (otherwise it'll just look at the first animation frame and stick to that).

3. Support for transparency on the flag texture, so you can make it so the borders of the flag move around.

That way you could build a looping animation of a waving flag, which could look reasonably decent at typical IL-2 distances, and still frames, but it wouldn't be perfect.

Also making the flag animation would be sort of hard, but doable I think. If anyone knows if the things I mentioned are possible, it would be interesting to try to experiment with this.
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Re: Animated flags on carriers
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2012, 01:02:06 AM »

 ???  ??? ??! Flags have been animated on carriers for a long time.It's called the Animated Flag mod.   
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Re: Animated flags on carriers
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2012, 02:09:37 AM »

Huh, that's very interesting. I shall look it up immediately, thanks for bringing this to my knowledge!
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Re: Animated flags on carriers
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2012, 02:42:39 AM »

???  ??? ??! Flags have been animated on carriers for a long time.It's called the Animated Flag mod. 
Plowshare's USN Fleet Carriers pack and USN Light carriers pack contain Animated Flag.
My Essex SCB-125 pack is, too.

That Animated Flag is 2D texture (picture) animation.
8 pictures are rotated to use on a flag polygon.

The flag's 3D polygon is only a "board", and nothing transformes.
3D transforming is very hard.

By the way...
I have USN Stars and Stripes animation 8 pictures from Plowshare's MOD.
But I don't have IJN's Nissho-ki 8 pictures.
Where do I get IJN's Nissho-ki 8 pictures? , Gumpy.
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Re: Animated flags on carriers
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2012, 02:46:57 AM »

Yeah, I figured it would be very hard to rig an actually animated flag model plane.

Is there a mod to add the animated flags to all ships, not just carriers?
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Re: Animated flags on carriers
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 04:41:54 AM »

there isn't a mod, as such, but it's not that hard to look at how the animation is done for an existing carrier, and then simply 'copy' that technique and files into the ship you want the animation for.
likely will entail some hier.him work, as well.
i did an original flag animation from scratch for my old US PT boat mod - was a bit tricky, but definitely doable. :D
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Re: Animated flags on carriers
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2012, 12:04:03 PM »

I used to have a copy of the animated flag mod from the old AAA days but lost it.
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Re: Animated flags on carriers
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 12:16:13 PM »

Forgot to ask this and I apologize if its not exactly the right area.. but anyone still have a copy of the old animated flag mod?  :-[
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Re: Animated flags on carriers
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2012, 03:35:40 PM »

Gumpy if I could send you a case of beer I would  :D

Thanks for this!
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Re: Animated flags on carriers
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2012, 03:55:23 PM »

Thanks Old Fart -

many people did not know it existed!!

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