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Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« on: July 08, 2012, 04:31:46 AM »

What is unusual is that with 70 B17s and 50 fighters, full detail, clouds, fire and smoke I expected some graphics to disappear...but, in some cases I have only a few aircraft and the canopy glazing, propellers, and smoke and fire (which is only minimal) disappears????

I've tried swapping all the different Ram settings in the JSGME folder but nothing makes a difference...wow!

I have an i7 3820, ASUS GTX680 card with 2 GB GDDR5

I have used the same map (Gothic-line Brigstock), which is a beautiful map, and has hardly any objects/buildings for both, it's a mystery 
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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2012, 04:41:29 AM »

perfectly normal and nothing you can do about it.
effects and fire  are very much limited - and when they "go", other stuff  "goes" too. prop blades and canopy polygones...
reduce the effects or use a "lesser" effects package.
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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2012, 05:02:00 AM »

yeah, you can get the world's best supercomputer, and you will still be limited to what the game engine is capable of.
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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2012, 07:00:26 AM »

I hear what you're saying, but how is it that with only a few aircraft, using a very lite map, am I getting graphics problems here and there?

I had 100 B17s and 50 fighters using the same map (diferent mission), I got graphics disappearing, so I reduced the number of aircraft til I got a good game which was about 65 B17s and 30 fighter escorts...but I just couldn't understand how only eight B24's, no details, no fighters, no objects...and got same problem. Bloody Government!!!!  ;D

Also...I haven't recorded a game track for a while, but I just did and the replay was really weird; plane flying a strange angles, bits missing, tracer shooting no where near the target A/C but striking A/C...strange :o
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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2012, 07:23:48 AM »

map and plane count are not important.
only the hollywood stuff, the effects are touched by the limitation of dissappearing.
the track you did was probably a "trk" file, which should not be used any more.
you get track files when you fly your mission and end it, then select "save the track of this mission".
It is better to start the mission , launch a "quick track recording" from inside the mission.
The result is a "ntrk" file, which does not contain most of the errors you see.
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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 04:34:55 PM »

Thanks HZG for the track info.

As for dissappearing graphics...I just bought a 106cm, 42in LCD/LED tv with HDMI cable and the graphics seem to have gotten better...am I going crazy.

I gotta say, this is an awsome way to fly, the sky now has that vastness that small screen don't capture. 
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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 09:43:45 PM »

I would test this problem more before I say "its the game engine". Can you tell me:
- your game and modpack versions
- smoke mod type & version nr.
- did you try it with smoke mod deactivated? (stock smoke)
- is the problem present in DBW1916 if you got it?
- the mission file we're talking about (you can post it as 'code')

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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2012, 10:44:25 PM »

It looks like the contrails are the culprits.
Each B-17 have 4 contrails and some mods have long 3D contrails, this means too many particles in the air.
You can put many B-17 at medium altitude because the contrails will start only at high altitudes. ;)



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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2012, 08:05:23 AM »

Thanks Guys

VP - I'm using 4.10m 2UP (It's old I know), with Uranium effects. I am a glut for detail in the game, and I'm sure I have too much going on. I just thought I noticed an improvement in graphic not dissappearing. There is a lot I can do to improve performance - but I use MAX everything! ;) I like the smoke/fire effects I have - I recently saw the 'stock' fire/smoke...looked god-awful!

I have a new machine, new TV and I'm just getting a good dose of IL2 before I go and f#ck everything up learning how to install mods properly.....there is a lot of nice stuff/mods I still don't have, and looking forward to it.

Sant - I stay away from the contrails, I think they start at 7000m



There are 70 B-17's and 50 fighters in this mission...it really tests the machine a bit

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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2012, 08:50:50 AM »

I mean that try the mission with stock smoke if its not disappearing then the smoke mod has the bug and can be fixed.

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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2012, 03:19:32 AM »

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....got'cha! Smoke is goooood!


 
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Re: Great new machine...but dissapearing graphics
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2012, 03:57:59 AM »

atom, that's an interesting looking map - may i ask which it is? :D
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