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Author Topic: Potez 63 family Beta Update 28-11-14  (Read 64387 times)

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cgagan

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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2014, 03:06:59 AM »

Many thanks for this brilliant new addition of a long anticipated aircraft,  8)
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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2014, 03:47:27 AM »

Back to desk at 60%.I think a little pb with Air.ini
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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2014, 04:51:50 AM »

Back to desk at 60%.I think a little pb with Air.ini
As you do not provide any reliable information you are the only one to think of a problem in the air.ini !
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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2014, 12:42:29 PM »

If I may give a suggestion, maybe the Ki-45-Kai-Ko nose would fit better the Potez 631 one. Please give a glance to following images for confrontation:

Ki-45-Kai-Ko nose


Potez-631 nose


Ki-45-Kai-Hei nose


Ki-45-Kai-Ko


Potez-631


Ki-45-Kai-Hei


What do you think about?

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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2014, 01:58:46 PM »

Thank you gentlemen for your comment and attention to this model.  :)

If I may give a suggestion, maybe the Ki-45-Kai-Ko nose would fit better the Potez 631 one. Please give a glance to following images for confrontation:

What do you think about?

Cheers,
GB

In early childhood, probably every viewing pictures "Find ten differences." ;D

So:



By the way, you probably noticed that the version the (multi) is slightly different from the version (France) and version (Vichy)?





Given that this is now a beta version, we have decided to release it as a Potez-631. If all of this will be further developed, of course, we will

respect your wishes and recommendations (nose Kai-ko) ;), to do this Franken as close as possible to the original.

With best wishes.  8)

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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2014, 04:32:03 PM »

Bombs away.



Looking at the armament of the Potez 633 at the moment, and have actually produced a new version that will include
Potez 630, 631 and 633. ;)

Also taken a look at how skins are affected by each model, here you see my way of blending in the new air scoop on
what is essentilly the Potez 630.  Some things can be blended in, here with glare shields, although strictly not
something that was on the real aircraft.



This is a franken, so compromises have to be made in what we can actually do and what people may think we should do.

Luftwaffe camouflage scheme, also good for certain Romanian aircraft:  Greece still to do.



Development continues, who knows quite how things will turn out.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2014, 01:00:10 AM »

By the way, you probably noticed that the version the (multi) is slightly different from the version (France) and version (Vichy)?

I couldn't yet install it in my 4.09. From screenshots you posted, I can only detect a slight difference in spinners dimensions, but I'm unsure.

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... we will respect your wishes and recommendations (nose Kai-ko) ;), to do this Franken as close as possible to the original.

Thanks for your kind attention!

Cheers,
GB
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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2014, 03:19:40 AM »

Hi,Epervier,I'm in 4.12.2 HSFX v7.02.
Same problem with the new "MB-174 for 4.12 August 11 2014" but it's Ok with the "MB-174 V3"
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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2014, 03:37:38 AM »

Hi,Epervier,I'm in 4.12.2 HSFX v7.02.
Same problem with the new "MB-174 for 4.12 August 11 2014" but it's Ok with the "MB-174 V3"

Hello Kerlir, these aircraft were only intended for DBW 1.71 and TD 4.12.2 with SAS ModAct 5.30, they have been tested in both of those installations and there are no issues we have found unless they have been stated in the readme. ;)

As Epervier has previously pointed out we cannot help if you do not post your log, sorry.

In most cases the log will usually give a clue as to what the problem is, however, as you are not using these in a install that they were intended for there is very little we can actually do for you.

Even though HSFX 7 is a 4.12 version it is I believe quite different from the setup these aircraft were intended for.

I do actually have the latest version of HSFX 7.2 myself, however, I have not yet made any attempt to mod it so do not know what changes are necessary to make anything currently here at SAS compatible with that install, Epervier may do but would need your log to have any chance of helping you.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2014, 05:28:14 PM »

Potez 633 somewhere over Greece:



Amazing the possibilities that open up with a little tinkering of the 3d and a splash of paint. ;)


All the best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2014, 12:02:13 AM »

A few details on Potez 63 armament:
1) Potez 631:
2 HS-9 (prototype) or HS-404 cannons (series planes) in under nose gondolas, 1 rear firing (observer) MAC-34 MG, and sometimes  2 rear firing MAC-34 MGs in gondolas positioned behind the undernose gondolas, 
Due to shortage in cannons they were sometimes replaced by 2 MAC-34, sometimes a 3rd MAC-34 being added under the fuselage (as in the Potez 633 configuration). A 4 MAC-34 underfuselage was even found on some planes
In common with ALL potez 63 family planes, 1 or 2 pairs of  MAC-34 could be added inn underwing gondolas
2) Potez 633:
8x50kg bombs (50kgDT or 50kgDT2 or 50kg type A)
1 rear firing (observer) MAC-34
1 forward firing underfuselage MAC-34 used to facilitate aiming in "vol rasant" attacks
And in common with ALL potez 63 family planes, 1 or 2 pairs of  MAC-34 could be added inn underwing gondolas





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Re: Potez-631 ver. 1.1 Beta
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2014, 01:53:04 AM »

A few details on Potez 63 armament:


Thank you very much for this information. :)

By Potez -633 bombs were located on the underwing consoles?

Does the presence of a drawing, diagram, photo location bombs at 633?


Thank you again. 8)

Regards
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