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PapaG39

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CUP Sound question
« on: March 15, 2015, 11:18:38 PM »
I recently lost my DBW install so I decided to try the CUP & the WAW.  I works great except for my basic ride which is the Russian La 5's and
It has twin cannons and they sound like air guns woooshing.  I use the Jivers sounds in my basic il2 4.12.2 setup and they have a nice "crack" to them.

Would the Jivers sounds work o.k. if I put them into the Jsgme folder or would that screw up the game & the WAW  sounds.

Maybe I screwed something up when I originally installed the CUP.  The aircraft gear, flap & basic aircraft creaking noise from to tight a bank turn work just fine though.

Everything else seems awesome so far though. I just can't believe what you amazing guys have been able to do with il2.  I take my hat off to all of you...

 
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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2015, 04:25:21 AM »
This is very interesting and definately worth taking a look at.  Tigerr33's Sounds are native to WAWA but its also perfectly safe to experiment with Jiver's to get extra or improved gun sounds.  Just keep track of what goes into the #WAW mod folder.  If you need to revert after testing the latest backup Clean #WAW is in WAW Pt07.  I will also look into this in the next week.
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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2015, 09:14:05 AM »
Hi & Thanks Monty27.
after looking more into  the Daidolos Team Jivers thread;   http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=40150
it doesn't appear that it is in the Jazme format.
You have to install the pieces into the Presets and Samples folders and your "INFORMATIVE CUP manual"  says in BIG RED LETTERS "NOT"  to open sound files. Ha Ha

However the La 5 & Lagg mg & cannon sounds are just great for immersion in this game.  the rest of the sounds seem fine in WAW  to me...

Perhaps those sounds could be added for the Soviet aircraft as a mod in the future...

I am not a mod making person myself.  If I even touch a file the game would need to be completely re-installed...so I will have to wait until one of you pros tell me what
can be done and how to do it...

Thanks
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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2015, 01:03:24 AM »
Hi,
is there possibility to adjust (reduce or remove) the creaking noise, connected with G-force ? In some jets it is too loud even in normal turns.
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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2015, 04:17:47 PM »
Quote from: SAS~Monty27 on March 17, 2015, 04:25:21 AM
This is very interesting and definately worth taking a look at.  Tigerr33's Sounds are native to WAWA but its also perfectly safe to experiment with Jiver's to get extra or improved gun sounds.  Just keep track of what goes into the #WAW mod folder.  If you need to revert after testing the latest backup Clean #WAW is in WAW Pt07.  I will also look into this in the next week.

Please remember that I am old and not smart.  Anyway, here goes - which presets and samples folders would these go into.  I have those folders in the WAW folder and also in my main folder I think.  Would something like this to into WAW?  Thank you for your patience and help.
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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2015, 11:27:03 PM »
4.12 supports custom sounds so you should be perfectly fine experimenting with Jiver's soundmod. In your root IL-2 folder you will see two folders....'my_presets' and 'my_samples'. You can copy or place the appropriate files in these folders. If you don't care for the sounds you can delete them at any time. (Just delete the files, not the folders.)

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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2015, 04:37:53 AM »
Iirc Jivers soundmod is for 4.10 and uses a different sound matrix then 4.12.
If you add any old soundmod to 4.12 without any changes, in many cases youre still gonna listen to the sounds from the modacts sas_sound_01.sfs. I'm not a CUP user so I dont know about what sounds it uses. Do you have a CUP filelist.txt?

list of sounds in SAS modact 5.3:

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Presets\sounds\aircraft.cockpit.prs
Presets\sounds\aircraft.common.prs
Presets\sounds\aircraft.common_w.prs
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Presets\sounds\motor.PrattWhitney_R-2800_Series.start.begin.prs
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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2015, 06:00:07 AM »
Hi guys,

There are JiversSound packs available for 4.12. I use this one and it works perfectly fine:

http://www.battle-fields.com/commscentre/showthread.php?25169-Jiver-SoundPack-%28from-1C-forums%29-4-12

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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2015, 01:56:06 AM »
Thanks Polo199, I did not have that version yet.
I've checked it and its a very good conversion job, I havent found a single error.
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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2015, 02:16:22 AM »
No worries vp. Thanks to Decipher who gave me the link to that version. :)

May I ask you a question since you're a modder (and I'm not)? Maybe you could help me with my quest...

I would like to increase the sound of the wind when flying with an opened cockpit. I would like to get the same sound environment as the default ModAct5.3 (loud wind sound and tuned down engine sound). I've looked into the prs files but I did not manage to do it.
Would you happen to know how I could achieve that?

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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2015, 03:19:48 AM »
I'm a texture guy so I dont know much about anything except Photoshop :)
I'd try to extract (with sfs extractor https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,16581.0.html ) the SAS modact sounds (SFS_AUTO/sas_sound_01.sfs*) and look for a sample which has 'wind' in its name and replace Jivers wind sample with that. If it doesnt help I'd do a string search in the presets and see which one has the name of the wind sample and replace the Jivers prs with that one.

* you need to add the list I posted to the sfs extractors filelist.txt
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Re: CUP Sound question
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2015, 03:35:11 AM »
Thanks vpmedia. I agree with you. You're pointing me in the right direction.:) I will have a look at that.

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