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[edc1]

Hi SAS~Poltava,
Have started to convert you Madrid Republic campaign in the TGA module,
 after finishing the  Espagne campaign for use in CUP--TGA module.
Let me know if its all right to continue.
Cheers edc1 (stan)

[jeanba]

I fear that the differences in AI will require a complete rework of your campaigns.
At least, this is my feeling whenever I play a 4.10 or earlier campaign under CUP (which anyway I stopped to do)
Indeed, a mod to go back to 4.10 AI in CUP would be very usefull in this situation

My point of view is only from a pure playability point of view, I am not talking about AI Quality ...

[SAS~Poltava]

Hi SAS~Poltava,
Have started to convert you Madrid Republic campaign in the TGA module,
 after finishing the  Espagne campaign for use in CUP--TGA module.
Let me know if its all right to continue.
Cheers edc1 (stan)

Of course it is! Just go ahead! 

[SAS~Poltava]

I fear that the differences in AI will require a complete rework of your campaigns.
At least, this is my feeling whenever I play a 4.10 or earlier campaign under CUP (which anyway I stopped to do)
Indeed, a mod to go back to 4.10 AI in CUP would be very usefull in this situation

I have converted some ten campaigns from 4.10 to 4.12, and I think they all work fine. The enemy AI is better, no doubt about it, but the balance is still ok. Probably the better friendly AI helps to even out the better enemy AI? Going from 4.10 to 4.12 sometimes takes a lot of time, but that's mainly A.) about getting the ground-taxi to work, which can be tricky on some maps with badly placed way-points, tricky, but not unsolvable, and B.) that the ground-taxi forces you to have much more ground detail.

[jeanba]

Honnestly, I did not have in mind one of your campaign in particular (I can dig for my archives to recheck) but my feeling is that things have changed a lot and need to be retested (and if necessary modified) carefully, with "making compatible" representing only a first step.
For instance :
As a leader,  if you do not follow the planned waypoints (and I have also seen problems with patrol zone), the friendly AI don't follow you unless you consistantly ask all of them to cover you
Indeed, I try when possible to fly new campaigns at low rank
So the friendly AI does not really compensate for more deadly ennemy AI, because if you find yurself alone, you're alone ...
There are countless of mid-air collisions if the waypoints are not properly tuned (especially at takeoff) ...

So in 90% of the case, when I fly a 4.10 or earlier campaign with cup, I have problems.

Anyway, I will soon start your "MB152" campain, I will tell you more

[SAS~Poltava]

Well, then the explanation why I haven't seen these problems myself might be that I (for now) only use HSFX. And that something in CUP makes the upgrading of a campaign from 4.10 extra difficult. Perhaps even impossible?

[jeanba]

I have more or less the same problems with HSFX7

[SAS~Poltava]

Well, have a go at the Battle for France campaign and report back! 

This is no small issue, because I have to decide weather or not there is any point in updating old campaigns to 4.12 as I have been doing or remain in 4.10 just to be able to enjoy literally hundreds and hundreds of existing campaigns, albeit with a lower grade AI, no taxi-to-take off etc.