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[SAS~Malone]

i see here are others with problems relating to the La Chute map/s, maybe there is some clue there as to your problem? - https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,45262.msg515502.html#msg515502

[cerberus]

Question, So when installing CUP, Am i installing the original SAS-MME01 or this one that you provided a link for? Im seriously confused with these separate links for some of the files.

[SAS~Malone]

i really am wondering where the confusion comes in....
the first few lines in the first post - it clearly says:

No SFS Content - This simply contains the latest copies of:

Static.INI and MAPMODS for all C.U.P. Modules

Designed to correct errors, small spellos etc

.

why is this so hard to understand for so many here?
it's not a question of this or that, you still need to download all the MME files, which contain the SFS files, essentially the actual content.
then, you still need to download this 'latest' which is exactly what it says - just an updated static.ini
replace the static that you have after installing all the other MME content parts, (from 1 thru 14) with this one.
where does the confusion come in?
i'm not trying to be funny here, i seriously want to know where the confusion is, so that we can make it simpler (if that's possible) for members.

[jeanba]

Honnestly, the title of the thread is misleading :

"CUP Module 01 SAS-MME LATEST"
I am often confused by it

Maybe something like :
"CUP Module 01 SAS-MME latest map info" would fit better ?

[SAS~Malone]

maybe, mate, but i still really don't see how there can be confusion, other than people not understanding the instructions.
and if it's something not understood in the instructions, we need to know about it, even if it's just one word that's confusing people.
it's hard to fix a problem when you don't know what the problem is, lol

[PapaG39]

jeanba..
Have you read this, starting with (big emphsis) on item #1 ??   https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47647.0.html

[SAS~Malone]

hold on, jeanba...before you guys start snapping at each other, let's just make sure there are no misunderstandings here - all i see is PapaG pointing out an instruction thread?
how does that make him an 'example' of why i get upset?
i don't see what prompted your response here - what are you upset about here, mate, because i'm not seeing it myself?

[jeanba]

Malone, the main problem is that some people and click wherever they can to download whithout reading the post.
Then, if they realize that the content of the download is not what they expect, some of them may read the thread, but some of them will complain instead.
So if the title is not clear (and even then !!!), those people will always post question.

As far as I am concerned, I found myself (a very little) confused by the title of the thread only, I read the first post and that's all, but I just think of all the people not reading the first post

PapaG39, I deleted my post, but I don't understand why you ask me to read a thread I know of in the context of the conversation I have with Malone :
Malone is asking why people do not understand the content of a file, I answer him (right or wrong) then he answers ...



 

[Gatrasz]

Yes, but...I don't think it would be a good thing to encourage people on the way to skip reading the thread (or the first post at least...or the Read Me in the download...or the last CUP Manual for example). Threads are made to answer this kind of question ; and that's why I usually don't accept PM questions like 'please, could you help me to install CUP ?' - I do help people when I can (or I try...), but I prefer pointing to threads where the needed help is already waiting for the beginners. I mean, help has to be for all, not only for the one who asks (or the one who says you sometimes in PM 'sorry, I don't have time to search in all the threads, you know...' ). So the title may look confusing to some people (obviously not to everyone), but in my experience it's very rare to have the title and the thread and the Read Me file confusing the same way at the end. So maybe the 'read the thread, please' advice will still be of use for some time 

(and I have to say, jeanba, you're perfectly right on this : every day I see on social networks people discussing the title of links or articles (even when the title is a question !) and getting sometimes really pissed off when they learn that reading the full article before complaining would have been better...)

[jeanba]

Yes, but...I don't think it would be a good thing to encourage people on the way to skip reading the thread (or the first post at least...or the Read Me in the download...or the last CUP Manual for example). Threads are made to answer this kind of question ; and that's why I usually don't accept PM questions like 'please, could you help me to install CUP ?' - I do help people when I can (or I try...), but I prefer pointing to threads where the needed help is already waiting for the beginners. I mean, help has to be for all, not only for the one who asks (or the one who says you sometimes in PM 'sorry, I don't have time to search in all the threads, you know...' ). So the title may look confusing to some people (obviously not to everyone), but in my experience it's very rare to have the title and the thread and the Read Me file confusing the same way at the end. So maybe the 'read the thread, please' advice will still be of use for some time 

(and I have to say, jeanba, you're perfectly right on this : every day I see on social networks people discussing the title of links or articles (even when the title is a question !) and getting sometimes really pissed off when they learn that reading the full article before complaining would have been better...)

I absolutly agree on your approach, and Malone is very clear in the readme and the threads, but unfortunatly, we are talking about people not reading nor the thread, nor the readme (and even for the title ...)
They just see : "Nice picture" => "Download" => "no more nice picture" => type "please help me"

And as to encouraging people, I have managed the technical support of a software, my clients were professionnal, usually PhD on the very subject of the software (numerical analysis) and 30% (at least) of the calls were about obvious points which would have been avoided with a very little reading, so let me tell : hopeless !!!