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[Moezilla]

Vehicles are visible but do not aim or fire at the enemy.

The fact that they do not aim may mean the AI is not functioning as expected. Another possibility would be the animations/hooks are not correct. Strange one.

I reverted to WAW Pt18B and the problem still persists. I reverted by using the #WAW folder from Pt18+18B and remming out WAW70.sfs. No JSGMEMODs activated.

I think we need more people to test this. The black death track shows it too. The columns don't fire at the IL2s when I use WAW but work fine if I select stock 4.12.2 or SAS Modact 5.3 in the selector.

@asheshouse, when you have time, can you check if you have anything added to your #WAW folder or your SFS_ folders or anything active in JSGME so we can replicate your conditions?

[Moezilla]

Ok think I nailed it. Several vehicles in the WAW20 technics.ini do not have FireFastTargets set to 1

They include:
BA_64
FAIM
LVT_2
M8_Greyhound
HoRo_MG
Tatra_OA30
Nimrod
Sdkfz251
DemagFlak
SdKfz6Flak37
OpelBlitzMaultierAA
ZIS5_AA
MaximeGaz
M3A1_APC
M16
M16_US

3 of the vehicles are in my test mission and the Demag and SdKfz251 are in the Black Death track.

Seems to be fixed now that I've added FireFastTargets 1

Edit: looks like the technics.ini entries are the same (at least for the demagflak) all the way back to the initial release of CUP. Has the default Car class behaviour changed from a default of shooting at aircraft to a default of ignoring them unless FireFastTargets 1? I'm pretty sure I remember initial troubles in the black death track after CUP's release with the tracers freezing.

[asheshouse]

If its now working that's good, but why is it working ok in my install, complete up to Pt18B, and not in the later version?
I have no FireFastTargets setting for the M16  and MaximGAZ vehicles in the test mission.

Maybe it will stop working when I add the pt19 and pt20 patches?

Most wide ranging change in these last patches is the Command and Control mod I think.

[asheshouse]

I have now taken the plunge and patched up to WaW Part 20. 

The test mission is still working fine. All flak guns firing. I've changed nothing.

In JSGME I have enabled only:

CUP - Forgotten Countries
CUP - TB Skies
TGA - SCW
CUP - Mission Pro Combo
SAS - Flyable AI
SAS - CTO Mod

[Moezilla]

Now you're freaking me out.

[SAS~Gerax]

Me too. 

Moezilla, I did what you adviced above and edited the WAWs  technics.ini,
now the mission works OK. Many thanks for finding a fix. 

I downloaded pt20 again just to be sure that to not have a outdated pt20-WAW,
tried with this and: no AAA.  Works only when I replaced the technics.ini
with the edited one.

Have also tried the other modules (with reworked missions to have a working plane there  ):
no luck in TGA, JTW, there the technics.inis also needs to be edited.

In DOF at least the "WWI Lanchester" worked without editing,
but ie the Reno_Dual does not. I do not know wich vehicles in DOF
should fire as AAA at all, so its hard for me to test this. Maybe someone
with more knowledge about DOF could do this?

[Moezilla]

I went through the vehicle and artillery entries in the WAW20 technics.ini and found some duplicate sections. Although some of the values/parameters under the vehicle sections differ between the duplicate sections.

I guess the first one in the file will be used so it might be worth checking which one is the best fit for CUP.

Here are the doubles and one triple (Coelian):

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ValentineII
MatildaMkII_UK
MatildaMkII_AU
M4A2
M4A2_US
M4A2_76W
M4A2_76W_US
HoRo_MG
Tatra_OA30
Coelian x3
SU76
SU122
Aufkl_Panther

[PapaG39]

whoa...I knew something was wrong, but you guys are way above my pay grade...ha ha... good hunting. 

[redfox]

Well Done Moezilla

I have just started to work through the technics file myself as I noticed there was a lack of flak in 4.12 compared with DBW. So you have saved me a lot of time.


Cheers - Redfox

[asheshouse]

Am i the only one that has it working ok "staight out of the box"?

How does my instalation differ from others?
Clean install from CD then patched to v4.12.2, then CUP installed.
Installed in c:\Games

[Moezilla]

@asheshouse - Here are the MD5 hashes and file sizes of the files I downloaded recently. The earlier downloads match the MD5 hashes provided at the time of their release.

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C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt09.rar 3e576dd999f34216ce75f20e06c75eb6 923,184,839
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt10.rar 96729088a6512bb79ca1d06c39dbb615 529,785,713
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt11.rar b2bc3769246680eec3cc8d9a14bf725f 250,830,886
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt12.rar 5ff6a244a5e16b91af1c081ddcb41ee9 529,083,790
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt13.zip d2880e03f543c23e1b2784f8e5f12c03 771,235,202
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt14.zip 658793ca39ca6531f40527dd7f01778d 699,537,342
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt15A.zip 498c8a4d4431349b70f654118338b7a8 881,535,251
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt15B.zip f708b7b8886f930d75ab513f30ea6c09 949,557,078
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt15C.zip 7865cdd62c208093de65e935b1c20691 555,812,727
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt16A.zip 84b9fafa417a022a89e207b076925e30 345,438,476
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt16B.zip 67b18e6d19d1330cc064e45ab9ad222d 268,743,921
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt16C.zip 12742d9d9287829ee26b1f9faba2bd3e 229,959,278
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt17.zip c22da0eaf0b4011d55e3877b843f9105 970,560,545
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt18.zip 6158d380a04206e603f1c887abf5ce08 889,055,839
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt18B.zip d37243121a38fe2aec8d92f04484a8a4 865,449,793
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt19.zip 12b4e0b3d038851ab19261a9e3ce93f3 230,549,165
C.U.P.- Module 03 - World At War Pt20.zip 3e7d3d05283188e882b947188bb9cd1d 459,978,491
SAS-MME11.rar 2f12cced202add6bd51bed7fa84de888 747,853,152
SAS-MME12.rar 67c5c2a4f7b15faec5fed8a8fe984f09 1,020,430,545
SAS-MME13A.zip ef8dc992a4cd41582b722b2ce49b9ec4 851,359,487
SAS-MME13B.zip 78ade031935c64893ed2ca456a6fdd42 685,538,995
SAS-MME13C.zip e94cb0373005e9bdc8192e1122ea6081 630,868,700
SAS-MME13D.zip 192c12a3eae32751396977a2425e60bd 228,037,958
SAS-MME14.zip c14cb3ea9ebab2807473804dd1cec41b 167,624,819


[SAS~Gerax]

Moezilla: have the same MD5 data. So its not a corrupted downloads issue.

redfox:

I have just started to work through the technics file

when ready would you please share those reworked inis
so we can have a look and use them?