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nyali

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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2016, 08:35:54 AM »

quality control is right, he just hasn't quantified what quality it is.....maybe it should be applied to the user ?
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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2016, 08:41:23 AM »

lol - what i would give for some sort of 'quality control' that worked with new member registrations... :D
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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2016, 09:17:48 AM »

i agree Griffon and i'm with Malone i know that he is a cool guy

but ... point is that Words have their Weights ...

and why should i be worse than user/costumer ...

and thank you for yours reply ...

greeting
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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2016, 10:27:41 AM »

Well how disabling CUP sounds to run QMB can be attributed to user error? OR to copy paste file from sas modact from a different program makes sense to be able to run some random mod? Some people don't have problems because have files from different mods and just switch them so the errors are not obvious.

Many people wouldn't even bother to post here and after second serious error would remove entire mod and use different mod at all. Nobody wants to kill evening repairing a mod. I put an effort to look on all angles and solutions and instead of it comes accusation of user error. Then no wonder il community grows smaller and smaller fractured on few remaining servers.

Now people would rather play BOS or BOM which are poor shadow of sturmovik.
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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2016, 10:31:44 AM »

 ;D

When C.U.P. has such serious Quality Problem as you say....
ALL THE PLAYERS trying to install C.U.P. absolutely face the trouble as same as yours.

In other words, NO ONE CAN RUN C.U.P.

Do you find such story in SAS?
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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2016, 10:40:09 AM »

Well how disabling CUP sounds to run QMB can be attributed to user error? OR to copy paste file from sas modact from a different program makes sense to be able to run some random mod? Some people don't have problems because have files from different mods and just switch them so the errors are not obvious.

Many people wouldn't even bother to post here and after second serious error would remove entire mod and use different mod at all. Nobody wants to kill evening repairing a mod. I put an effort to look on all angles and solutions and instead of it comes accusation of user error. Then no wonder il community grows smaller and smaller fractured on few remaining servers.

Now people would rather play BOS or BOM which are poor shadow of sturmovik.

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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2016, 12:14:26 PM »

The issue at hand is this...

Users A , B and C all download CUP, they READ the manual, check the installation guidelines and THEN install CUP, small problems crop up, they post a log and they get it fixed.

Then along comes User D
User D has installed a plane or 2 in the past, knows all about modding, downloads every file with CUP label, skims through the install page, does NOT download or READ the manual, CUP fails to load and then BLAMES EVERYONE from CUP makers to forum admins for their own failure.

Why then do people keep blaming the attitudes of users and admins when they clearly are running out of patience with people who need to be spoon fed life ?
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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2016, 01:13:47 PM »

let's please now put aside all things of user errors, new guys being scared away, and so on....
the bottom line is this - all the info you need to install and properly run CUP is available here.
i look at the issues the OP mentions in the opening post of this thread, and i immediately see that the problems mentioned, such as QMB crashing at 30% loading, sounds being disabled, and so on - are ALL explained and described here already, in the CUP manual and in the CUP tech help threads, as well as in the readme that comes with EACH part of each CUP module.
so, if this info is already all freely available, and all it requires is for you to just take the time to READ this stuff first, why should we have to repeat it for each new member who does not want to spend an hour or so to read up first?
compared to the months, if not years, of hard work the modders put in to bring you all these mods free of charge, is that too much to ask?
i think not.
clearly, you have not bothered to read first, but rather opted to now putting blame on everyone on the site other than yourself.
don't try to argue this with me, you will lose - i could point you to the exact threads that will solve these so-called 'quality control' problems you mentioned, but i won't, simply because it's time you made a little effort and did some reading of your own.
if reading is too much to ask, then you might be better off going to some other mod site.
please - i see this same problem many, many times over.
if you invest a little time to read up first, all these quality control issues you talk about are addressed and resolved.

besides, quality control is something one can associate with a product that you pay for. it cannot be used when talking of something you got for free, by private people.
you are not a 'customer' as we are not a business.
go back and read the site rules, which you agreed to when you joined the site - https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,23602.0.html
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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2016, 03:15:42 PM »

Eugene,
+1000000 !
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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2016, 06:13:22 PM »

well said Malone...wish I could have worded my post better
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Re: Quality Control
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2016, 09:22:14 AM »

I do,nt have any problems with C.U.P. Quality Control is good.
Even Microsoft etc have the odd glitch.
Installed it by the numbers...DID NOT deviate one iota from Manual....
 The only "problem" that I have is that crashed aircraft,Including mine, bounce all over the landscape, sometimes for miles.....There is a post on that which I will track down asap .

Keep up the good work
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