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New to BAT
« on: June 24, 2017, 08:14:30 PM »

Hello,
Our small group is interested in 1946 again after many years of not even flying.  We are considering 1946 and perhaps BAT, or CoD.  I am testing out 1946 with BAT and have some general and perhaps some specific questions.  Any and all replies are appreciated, as well as any additional information and opinions anyone would like to share.

1. some of us have the steam version of 1946.  i see it is already at 4.12.2m.  does the sas megapatch need to be applied anyway?  anything else we should know about the steam version?
2. we see there is a 4.14.4m patch.  should we use this or stick with 4.12.2m?  i think BAT does *not* work with 4.14.4m?  are we missing anything by sticking with 4.12.2m?  i think the answer is no.
3. is there any reason multiplayer does nto work with the BAT install?  i think the asnwer is that it works just fine.
4. i personally am particularly interested in the early jets included (they are included, right?).  i did read somewhere that the sounds for those are relatively old and could use updating.  is that correct in the latest version of BAT + Expansions?
5. at what point in the install process should we make copies to checkpoint our installs?  we will not at all likely add stuff outside of BAT of that makes a difference.
6. does DGEN or DCE work with BAT + Expansions?  Or is there something else we can use that is 'better' similar to these?

As stated, any/all replies appreciated!

Thx!

Helmut
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Re: New to BAT
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2017, 08:30:10 PM »

1. I have Steam version. No need for Megapatch
2. Stick to 4.12.2. Also, where did you here of patch 4.14.4? Or you mean 4.13.4?
3. Multi should work if you get a third party software, but not positive.
4. BAT includes everything from WW1 to the Cold War in 4 modules. The sounds are up to date.
5. Checkpoint is after installing BAT expansion 9.
6. DGen works. DCG should work as well.
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Re: New to BAT
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2017, 09:16:31 PM »

Thx Venator.

1.  nice
2. yes, meant 4.13.4!  seems like we should stick to 4.12.2m, yes?
3. oh, we need something else to play multiplayer?  can someone enlighten me?
4. nice!
5. i do not mean official bat checkpoint after expansion 9 install.  just for best practice.  i.e. save copy of stock install?  after bat initial install before expansions?  after installing expansion 12?
6. also nice

a new question:

7. i have seen recommendations to copy steam version outside of program files and use that.  is this necessary?  good practice?

thx any and all!
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2017, 12:24:16 AM »

BAT only runs on 4.12.2, so yes stick to that. When I play multiplayer (which is rarely), I use Hyperlobby. Don't ask me how any of it works since I haven't played multiplayer in a long time.

It is always a good idea to back up stock Il-2 in case something goes wrong with the install.

For your last question, it's not necessary, it is up to you whether you want to play Il-2 on Steam or not.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2017, 04:30:04 AM »

Of Q7, you definately want the program out of "program files" folder! That folder is "protected area" for windows! It screws things up for you when you install stuff to IL2 or any game tha isn´t windows approved!
@ Ventor77, that could be the reason for your issues!
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Re: New to BAT
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2017, 07:51:18 AM »

Hmm... Could be...
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2017, 01:08:06 PM »

Thx.  interesting though.  is it perhaps something as simple as installing with administrator privileges to resolve the issues installing within program files?  but, certainly somebody has tested that?
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2017, 02:36:28 PM »

Installing with admin priviliges doesn´t help! Get the thing out of there! Many of us have already made the experience so do as you´re told! I DO NOT mean to be rude but it´s a well known fact, windows fucks up things in that folder!
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Re: New to BAT
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2017, 03:39:56 PM »

I DO NOT mean to be rude but it´s a well known fact, windows fucks up things in that folder!

It most certainly does....................
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2017, 11:53:01 PM »

Thx guys.

But first that certainly was somewhat rude!   :o  If one does not mean to be rude, well then one shouldn't be.  I am here because I am new to the mod and was just asking questions.

I do hear you though.  Has anyone actually investigated the issue and attempted a proper solution?  There are proper ways to install into the program files folders or you would not have any programs at all.  I can see the easy method of just copying it out and using the folder outside of program files, but now I am certainly more curious than anything else (I work in computer technology).

For now we will "do as we are told" but later I might post in the tech help section to see if anyone has determined the real reasons for this issue.

How about the rest of my questions (and I am glad I read about copying/moving it somewhere - that is not in the BAT install instructions anywhere I can see)?  Are the current answers all good?

Thx!
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Re: New to BAT
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2017, 06:02:51 AM »

Make sure you save "stock" install on a external HD as a back-up just in case you mess something up or want another version later on. I have stock (fully updated), VP modpack ,and BAT installed.Have all in separate folder outside of program files/program files(x86) and they work flawlessly . I recommend staying away from CLoD as it is too buggy to me. That may change in the future as work is being done to it now. Don't play multi-player and don't use Steam so can't say much there. Just do as i'm told and all has been pain free. Best of luck and hope this is just a start in one of the best combat flight sims available. Regards,Scott
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