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AVRO VULCAN B.2
« on: February 06, 2021, 04:13:56 PM »

So I thought that since there is a map of the island Falkland  - Malvin, as well as missions and TOAS mod, an Avro Vulcan bomber that performed 7 combat missions during this war would also be useful.

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The A.V. Roe & Company (Avro) 698 Vulcan was a jet-powered delta wing strategic bomber, which first flew on 30th August 1952 at Woodford. The design was considered the most technically advanced of the submissions in response to Air Ministry Specification B.35/46, although it was thought by some as the riskiest option.A number of scale aircraft such as the Avro Type 707 and Type 710 were designed and produced to test and refine the delta wing design principles and handling characteristics although the latter aircraft failed to come to fruition due to numerous delays.Avro Test Pilot Wing Commander Roland 'Roly' John Falk, dressed in his distinct pin-striped suit, finally took the gloss white Avro 698 Vulcan prototype (VX770) into the air on 30th August 1952, albeit single crewed for safety reasons.Powered by four Rolls-Royce RA.3 Avon engines, with a temporary fuel tank fitted into the bomb bay and only fitted with the first-pilot's ejection seat, Falk took the aircraft through a number of unconventional manoeuvres before opening the throttle to such a point that it shattered a number of factory windows.A matter of weeks later, the yet unnamed aircraft appeared at the SBAC Farnborough Air Show, although a number of options were being considered at Avro. These included the ‘Ottawa’ (in honour of the contribution made by Avro Canada).However, the UK press were full of their own suggestions for a name including the Albion, Avenger, Apollo or Assegai.  Eventually, pressure from the Chief of the Air Staff to reflect the V-Bomber classification, the Air Council announced the aircraft as the Avro Vulcan.The second prototype (VX777) flew in September 1953. It was more representative of the production aircraft, having been lengthened to accommodate a longer nose undercarriage leg. It featured and a visual bomb-aiming blister under the cabin and was fitted with Bristol Olympus 100 engines. At Falk’s suggestion, a fighter-style control stick replaced the control wheel. During trials in July 1954, the aircraft was substantially damaged in a heavy landing at Farnborough. Once repaired, it was then fitted with Olympus 101 engines before resuming trials in October 1955.Handling problems as the aircraft approached the speed of sound at high altitude, resulted in a tendency to enter an uncontrollable dive, which proved unacceptable to the Aeroplane and Armament Experimental Establishment (A&AEE) at Boscombe Down.  The solution included the ‘Phase 2 wing’, featuring a kinked and drooped leading edge and vortex generators on the upper surface, all of which had been first tested on the Avro 707A.The Avro 698 Vulcan B.1 was first delivered into service with the RAF in 1956, whilst deliveries of the improved Avro 698 Vulcan B.2 started in 1960. A number of foreign governments had expressed an interest in the aircraft although none ever came to fruition. The later Avro 698 Vulcan B.2 featured more powerful engines, a larger wing, and an improved electrical system, plus Electronic Counter-Measures (ECM), many of which were modified to accept the Blue Steel missile.As a part of the RAF's V-Force, the aircraft was the key part of the UK’s airborne nuclear deterrent during much of the Cold War.  Although typically armed with nuclear weapons, the Avro 698 Vulcan’s ability to also carry conventional weapons was used to full effect on Operation Black Buck, during the Falklands War between the United Kingdom and Argentina in 1982. This was to be the only mission ‘flown in anger’ by an Avro 698 Vulcan.Carrying no defensive weaponry, the Avro 698 Vulcan relied upon its high-speed and high-altitude flight to evade interception. Although electronic countermeasures were also employed by the B.1 (designated B.1A) and B.2 from circa 1960, the Avro 698 Vulcan was always vulnerable to air attack.All of the 134 production aircraft (45 B.1 design / 89 B.2 design) were built at Avro Woodfood Factory in Cheshire between 1948 and 1965, although one aircraft remained on the ground as a static test frame.A change to low-level tactics was made in the mid-1960s, and by the mid-1970s, nine Avro 698 Vulcan aircraft were adapted for Maritime Radar-Reconnaissance operations and re-designated as Avro 698 Vulcan B.2 (MRR).In its final years of service, six aircraft were designated Avro 698 Vulcan K.2 and converted to tanker configuration for aerial refuelling, before reaching final retirement in 1984.At one point an Avro 698 Vulcan B.3 was proposed as a long-endurance missile carrier with up to 12 hours duration, but it was never built.

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Avro Vulcan B.2 - Developed version of the B.1. Larger, thinner wing than the B.1 (Phase 2C wing) and fitted with Olympus 201-202 engines of 17,000 lbf (76 kN) each, or Olympus 301 engines of 20,000 lbf (89 kN) each. Uprated electrics with Auxiliary Airborne Power Plant (AAPP - Auxiliary power unit) and Ram Air Turbine (RAT). ECM similar to B.1A. Terrain-Following Radar (TFR) in nose thimble radome fitted to most aircraft in mid-60s. New Radar warning receiver aerials on tail fin giving it a square top from the mid-1970’s.

Avro Vulcan B.2 (MRR) - Nine B.2s converted to Maritime Radar Reconnaissance (MRR). Five aircraft further modified for Air Sampling Role. Distinctive gloss-finish with light grey underside.

Avro Vulcan Vulcan K.2  - Six B.2s converted for air-to-air refuelling with Mark 17 Hose Drum Unit (HDU) mounted semi-recessed in tail cone. Fitted with three bomb-bay drum tanks, it was the only mark of Vulcan that could jettison fuel in an emergency.

Specifications B.2:

Crew: 5 (pilot, co-pilot, AEO, Navigator Radar, Navigator Plotter)
Wingspan: 111 ft 0 in (33.83 m)
Length: 105 ft 6 in (32.16 m) [99 ft 11 in (30.45 m) without probe]
Height: 27 ft 1 in (8.26 m)
Wing area: 3,964 sq ft (368.3 m2)
Max. takeoff weight: 204,000 lb (93,000 kg)
Cruising speed: Mach 0.86
Max. speed : Mach 0.93
Service ceiling: 45,000 to 56,000 ft (14,000 to 17,000 m)
Engines: 4 × Bristol Siddeley Olympus 200-series, 301

ARMAMENT:

1 × Blue Steel missile or
1 × free-fall nuclear bomb or
21 × 1,000 lb (450 kg)
conventional bombs









Thank you for your interest.
Seb

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Re: AVRO VULCAN B.2
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2021, 04:53:19 PM »

In 1980, I watched a Vulcan (of what stripe I can't tell you) be put through it's paces while at work at McConnell AFB, Kansas (eh...Wichita).  The base shared a flight line with Boeing, just across the way.  It was my understanding that the Vulcan was testing out new avionics, which is what Boeing Wichita was doing back then, avionics and "smart" planes...that kind of stuff...  It flew like a devil...I was spellbound.  Cat's asked me, "What in the hell was that?".  I told them that they really didn't want to vulcan know.  They said ok.  Really cool.  Then too, of course, I watched a C-135 flown like a fighter over that flight line too.  C'est la vie.
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Re: AVRO VULCAN B.2
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2021, 05:52:19 PM »

Seb ... once again   ]nono[


“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

– Albert Einstein

This request originally started by Seb in 2013. It gathered dust here until as nobody was interested, it was finally dumped in July last year. IIRC

....
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an Avro Vulcan bomber that performed 7 combat missions during this war would also be useful.
.. 5 actually ... two were aborted and several aircraft (Vulcan and Victor Tankers) suffered mechanical failures. One Vulcan made an emergency landing in Brazil with a SHRIKE missile stuck on a pylon. ( the Brazilians confiscated the Missile ).... ;)

It is also worth noting....
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to get twenty-one bombs to Port Stanley is going to take about one million, one hundred thousand pounds of fuel - equalling about 137,000 gallons. That was enough fuel to fly 260 Sea Harrier bombing missions over Port Stanley. Which in turn meant just over 1300 bombs. Interesting stuff!
...... in reality only one bomb hit the runway, which was repaired the next day..... and remained in use for the rest of the war. All the other missions had limited success. not really cost effective was it ?

It was an aircraft built for a war that never happened and finally used as a political statement by the RAF when it was well past it's sell by date.
:D :D

My Brother served in 617 Squadron when they flew these.... The famous Vulcan Howl is why he is partially deaf. It was a beautiful white elephant...


So .... Good luck.

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Re: AVRO VULCAN B.2
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2021, 12:34:00 AM »

in reality only one bomb hit the runway
Reports about that raid are quite confusing, they range from "only one bomb hit the runway" to "two bombs hit the runway, one damaged the tower and furthermore one Pucará got damaged".
Black Buck 5 is claimed to have hit a Skyguard radar according to some sources, but that's unconfirmed as well.

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Re: AVRO VULCAN B.2
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2021, 06:48:48 AM »

Well, she's an aircraft many of us enthusiasts have hinted at for a long time for the Vulcan to be added. It's not too complex in terms of generating a 3D model as she's basically one shape. Still it's up to the modders what they want to make or do. Like myself and Mike we'd love this aircraft to enter our simulator.

We have the Canberra as well so the point is never say never.

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Re: AVRO VULCAN B.2
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2021, 07:42:31 AM »

It's not too complex in terms of generating a 3D model as she's basically one shape.
Sorry Eric but that's bold.
There is no such thing like an easy to create 3D model, simple as that.

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Re: AVRO VULCAN B.2
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2021, 02:55:57 PM »

Hey. First of all, thank you for not removing my request for the Avro Vulcan.  ;D
Before adding a request, I checked if it had not been added by someone before, I was not sure, something I thought it might have been.
Secondly, I know the history of combat flights and that there were 5 missions out of 7 starts.
I hope this beautiful plane will appear in our game someday.
Unfortunately, I can only do skins.
best regards
Seb
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Re: AVRO VULCAN B.2
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2021, 03:06:16 PM »

No easy model for sure. But may be feasible to convert one from another sim, say FSX. Found this one here

https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/13744/fsx-avro-vulcan-xh558/

and just flights

https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/13744/fsx-avro-vulcan-xh558/
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Re: AVRO VULCAN B.2
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2021, 05:16:38 PM »

I'd love to see a Vulcan in my Il2 hangar, but my knowledge only extends as far as the Just Flight FSX model was nice.
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Re: AVRO VULCAN B.2
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2021, 05:51:54 PM »

Theres a fs 2004 version too; not sure how convertible she is

https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/1189/fs2004-2002-avro-vulcan-bmk2-bmk2a-raf/
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Re: AVRO VULCAN B.2
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2021, 08:02:14 AM »

Wonder if this new kit soon to be released would provide any info?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZcM-J1ibsQ

Looks pretty good to me.

I for one would love to fly a Vulcan along the valleys etc of the Banff map.
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