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Dimlee

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Ship troubles in BAT 4.2.3
« on: September 10, 2024, 12:56:30 PM »

FMB
Ships:
Instead of a Container ship, we have an aircraft carrier (looks like a French one).

Stationary Ships:
Container ship can not be placed on a map.

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Vampire_pilot

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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2024, 02:25:42 PM »

Be more specific here, please
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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2024, 07:35:56 AM »

Something went wrong with the pictures, so I tried to upload them again.

FMB - View - Object - Ships.
Container Ship is chosen in the drop list, but aircraft carrier appears in the window and as the object on the map.




FMB - View - Object - Stationary Ships.
Container Ship is chosen in the drop list, but aircraft carrier appears in the window. Nothing can be placed on the map, the "insert" function does not work.


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Frankiek

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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2024, 07:50:49 AM »

maybe you just have a faulty chief.ini and ships.ini entry did you check that?

and indeed problem confirmed below the entry of BAT4.2.3 ships.ini

[HMSArkRoyal_R09]
Description  Container Ship
Icon         shipDestroyer
// Model
Mesh         3do/Ships/HMSArkRoyal_R09/Hier.him
// Motion Parameters
SliderDistance 643.75
Speed          24.0 //48.0
SoundMove      models.Ship
IsAirport      1

I suppose it is just a mistake in the description. It happened to me recently with the USS Iowa that was described as King George V Battleship
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Dimlee

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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2024, 08:05:21 AM »

Probably, there is something wrong with the following groups of plates:
Pac Ground Plate
Pac Sand Plate
Desert Ground Plate
What I mean: plates in these categories look like concrete ones, not sand and ground.

Pac Ground Plate 4518


Pac Sand Plate 4532


Desert Ground Plate 4547

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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2024, 08:08:06 AM »

Hello, gentlemen, been AWOL for a while, but I'm back now, and felt this deserves an explanation as I was the one who imported the container ship for BAT (some versions back).

The Ark entry is as it should be. There was no slot for the container ship model, so I stole the slot designed for the Ark, and simply replaced the meshes and ship performance to show the civilian vessel. Thus the .ini entries are correct - it is just that my sleight of hand has now been revealed...

Yours,

Clive

BTW, the container vessel shows up fine in BAT 4.2.2. I don not intend to update past that version, so can't help more with 4.2.3 - sorry.
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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2024, 08:12:00 AM »

It seems however that your meshes didn't make it through in BAT-WAW because the object you can see is obviously the Ark Royal and not a civilian container ship
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Dimlee

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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2024, 08:17:04 AM »

maybe you just have a faulty chief.ini and ships.ini entry did you check that?

and indeed problem confirmed below the entry of BAT4.2.3 ships.ini

[HMSArkRoyal_R09]
Description  Container Ship
Icon         shipDestroyer
// Model
Mesh         3do/Ships/HMSArkRoyal_R09/Hier.him
// Motion Parameters
SliderDistance 643.75
Speed          24.0 //48.0
SoundMove      models.Ship
IsAirport      1

I suppose it is just a mistake in the description. It happened to me recently with the USS Iowa that was described as King George V Battleship

Probably, but I didn't touch those files after the 4.3.2 installation. I never do.

Just checked in \IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 BAT 4.2.3\#JTW3\STD\com\maddox\il2\objects
Chief.ini - no Container Ship entry.
Ships.ini - Yes, it is the same entry as in your message.

Just to note - it's in JTW.
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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2024, 08:18:02 AM »

The vessel is in JTW, not WAW. As I say, it works fine on previous versions of BAT. So I wonder if any changes were made for v. 4.2.3? Certainly not by me as I was AWOL and had no input with the latest update.

Dimlee: do a search in technics.ini for 'HMSArkRoyal_R09' - it should show the name 'container ship' next to that entry. If so, I suspect something may have changed in v.4.2.3.
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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2024, 08:23:42 AM »

Hopefully, it will be corrected in the next update.
Attacks against the defenceless container vessel and the aircraft carrier can have different consequences...  :P
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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2024, 08:28:01 AM »

One check you could do is look in ships.ini for the following:

Code: [Select]
[HMSArkRoyal_R09:Part0]
BaseChunk                 Hull1
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullLarge
Vital
 damageDepth   0.4
 damagePitch  -2.0
 damageRoll    6.0
 damageTime  164.0
 
[HMSArkRoyal_R09:Part1]
BaseChunk Hull2
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullLarge
Vital
 damageDepth   0.5
 damagePitch   0.0
 damageRoll    5.8
 damageTime  148.0
 
[HMSArkRoyal_R09:Part2]
BaseChunk Hull3
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_HullLarge
Vital
 damageDepth   1.0
 damagePitch   2.2
 damageRoll    5.9
 damageTime  142.0


That is the civilian ship entry for the Ark slot as I implemented it (obviously not a carrier as no guns etc). If there is anything different in the ships.ini entry than that should tell you changes were made unknown to me.

Yours,

Clive
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Re: Re: B.A.T. v4.2.3 Update
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2024, 08:33:25 AM »

The vessel is in JTW, not WAW. As I say, it works fine on previous versions of BAT. So I wonder if any changes were made for v. 4.2.3? Certainly not by me as I was AWOL and had no input with the latest update.

Dimlee: do a search in technics.ini for 'HMSArkRoyal_R09' - it should show the name 'container ship' next to that entry. If so, I suspect something may have changed in v.4.2.3.

No, I can't find them. Neither 'HMSArkRoyal_R09' nor 'container ship'.
technics.ini file in \#JTW3\STD\com\maddox\il2\objects
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