Hello Mike, since I posted I have managed to get eclipse working again by using a older file still on my external drive saved since I migrated all the stuff from my old machine so drama over for the moment.

Not sure if this is the file you asked for but it could now have changed from earlier I guess but I might as well post this anyway as my install of eclipse could be a little suspect from carrying it over to a new machine, it was a case of by hook or crook back then.

-startup
plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.3.0.v20140415-2008.jar
--launcher.library
plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.win32.win32.x86_64_1.1.200.v20150204-1316
-product
org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product
--launcher.defaultAction
openFile
--launcher.XXMaxPermSize
256M
-showsplash
org.eclipse.platform
--launcher.XXMaxPermSize
256m
--launcher.defaultAction
openFile
--launcher.appendVmargs
-vmargs
-Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.6
-Xms40m
-Xmx512m
I guess it was fortunate I still had old files still available as before the migration I had checked the java site and was going to try the full install again but it all seemed so much more confusing from when I originally followed the set the up using your tutorial, I was proposing to clean up that external drive but I guess it might be safer left as is because some files might not be available anymore as when at the java site I could not seem to find the older versions used for what we do for IL-2, did the world move on without us, were we abandoned by the new kids on the block?
Anyway, sorry if I bothered anyone, I never had eclipse fail like that at least not without me having messed with it first that is.

Take care and be safe.
Wishing you all the very best, Pete.
