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Title: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance) [4.10]
Post by: SAS~Storebror on October 30, 2011, 10:07:40 AM
Jugs reloaded
(http://s7.postimage.org/5jufcgfpn/new_fully_loaded.jpg)

Hi mates, here we go, the (nearly) fully featured Jugs reloaded. Please see old and new ordnance options "per station" compared between old and new implementation. Note that for the new implementation any combination of ordnance options on each stations is possible, there's currently a total of 73 possible loadouts selectable:
old
new
clean config, 200 (default) or 425 (overload) rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/46drqleh7/old_clean.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/fpv62jnnv/old_clean.jpg)		clean config, 267 (default) or 425 (overload) rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/o0qml8ex7/new_clean.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/8z5i1mlqj/new_clean.jpg)
center line: 75gal droptank, 200 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/3psk45qq3/old_center_75gal.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/4xt09pitn/old_center_75gal.jpg)		center line: 75gal droptank, 425 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/ey25e7f63/new_center_75gal.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/ft6lztzm3/new_center_75gal.jpg)
center line: 108gal droptank, 425 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/st0fwo9l7/new_center_108gal.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/71zl5kgaz/new_center_108gal.jpg)
center line: 110gal droptank, 425 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/w14x9pvuz/new_center_110gal.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/s445xnb0r/new_center_110gal.jpg)
center line: 200gal droptank, 425 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/afzum3z4b/new_center_200gal.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/joelg585n/new_center_200gal.jpg)
center line: 1000lb bomb, 200 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/8077zqvt7/old_center_1000lbs.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/p6kz967ij/old_center_1000lbs.jpg)		center line: 1000lb bomb, 425 rounds per gun
(http://s8.postimage.org/igww7t5vn/new_center_1000lbs.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/l2ftyslhl/new_center_1000lbs.jpg)
center line: 500lb bomb, 425 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/sy476cgwb/new_center_500lbs.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/csyyas32j/new_center_500lbs.jpg)
6 x 4,5'' Rockets, 200 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/s50s57pmz/old_6x45.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/580it1xfv/old_6x45.jpg)		6 x 4,5'' Rockets, 425 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/uguzxky2z/new_6x45.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/8kuzajmvf/new_6x45.jpg)
2 x 500lb bombs, 200 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/ao19nue8b/old_wing_500lbs.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/bw1pte6bv/old_wing_500lbs.jpg)		2 x 500lb bombs, 267 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/4x1wimrgr/new_wing_500lbs.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/3y2pe03nv/new_wing_500lbs.jpg)
2 x 1000lb bombs, 267 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/5drpit4ln/new_wing_1000lbs.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/kpo0wr3wr/new_wing_1000lbs.jpg)
2 x 108gal droptanks, 267 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/rlmi4gjgr/new_wing_108gal.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/jbrsnpf9n/new_wing_108gal.jpg)
2 x 110gal droptanks, 267 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/wbh16szuz/new_wing_110gal.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/92zbhvr7v/new_wing_110gal.jpg)
2 x 167gal droptanks, 267 rounds per gun
(http://s7.postimage.org/hjcbfgtxn/new_wing_165gal.jpg) (http://s7.postimage.org/3k1deejkb/new_wing_165gal.jpg)

Installation requirements:
You need some of the big mod packs being around, either HSFX or UP3 (with or without DBW on top).
This pack is not compatible with Stock 4.10.1m since it needs a whole lot additional stuff (might be possible to add everything manually, but it's strictly unsupported).

How to install:
Inside the downloaded zip Archive you'll find two folders, "Stock Front" and "Stock Inline". Please see revision history for detailed description of the differences between those two versions. Pick either version of your choice (don't install both, you can only have one at a time) and extract the contents of the regarding folder to your modded files folder. This should get you a new folder called "P-47D Ordnance Patch" in your modded files folder.
Depending on your type of game, this folder is either called "MODS", "#UP#" or "#DBW".
If you wish to have plain text readable names for the loadout options, please apply additional changes as stated in the readme.txt.

Credits:
This mod builds up on top of the base game's P-47D Jugs.
The 200gal droptank has been taken shamelessly from Kumpel's P-47D30/40 mod, so praise him for the good job he's done on it.

Things "under the hood":
The cal .50 guns use APIT ammo now.
The guns aren't synchronized anymore.
When wing pylon stations are occupied, the guns have 267 rounds each, otherwise 425.
Pylons are in place only when needed (they've been detachable IRL too).

Restraints:
Wing pylons will always be visible in QMB, center pylon will never be visible in QMB. Ingame they show up correctly.
This is a game limitiation which isn't easy to overcome as this would require the QMB itself to be modified, which is difficult since there are different QMB versions out in the wild.

Go get your copy here:
>> Jugs reloaded v0.02 << (https://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sas2/AMT/P-47D_Ordnance_Patch_v0.02.zip)

Jugs reloaded v0.01 (Old Version) (https://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sas2/AMT/P-47D_Ordnance_Patch_v0.01.zip)


Revision History:

Bug Reports
     
Additional Features
  • none
     
  • none

This is an AMT WIP thread, regarding rules apply:
(https://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sas2/AMT/amt.png) (http://www.aviatormodteam.xtreemhost.com/main/newapp.html#WIP)

Since this mod touches base game aircraft, it's intended for offline use only:
(https://www.sas1946.com/images/SASBanners/Online_Warning_SAS.gif) (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,14352.0.html)

While this mod version is basically compatible with both stock missions and online gameplay, please note that due to the fact that stock loadouts have been altered, stock missions might not turn out as expected and you might be called a "cheater" when using this mod online, especially due to the raised ammo count.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: duffys tavern on October 30, 2011, 10:27:43 AM
Excellent! Long overdue.
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: LuseKofte on October 30, 2011, 10:43:31 AM
wtf. out of the blue someone improve my favorite yankee bird  :)
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: SAS~GJE52 on October 30, 2011, 10:54:45 AM
 ;)   8)



 :D
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: Schwieger on October 30, 2011, 11:11:15 AM
APIT ammo?
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: cgagan on October 30, 2011, 11:19:10 AM
Splendid! Many thanks,  8)
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: US_GRANT on October 30, 2011, 11:19:23 AM
Armor Piercing Incendiery Tracer
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: DaC on October 30, 2011, 11:45:58 AM
nice job... one more plane with better loadout
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: Messcaster on October 30, 2011, 12:20:49 PM
:) Excellent!
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: Joberg on October 30, 2011, 12:35:08 PM
So APIT does more damage I take it? Does it normally have tracer and ball then?
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: tooslow on October 30, 2011, 12:40:34 PM
One additional suggestion.  Maybe at the same time you up grade the external stores you correct the number of rounds per gun in the default configuration.  It appears to be 200 RPG in the game, but every reference I have shows it as 267 RPG.   

Thanks ... TS
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: SAS~Storebror on October 30, 2011, 01:12:17 PM
Thanks for the heads up TS. Could you provide some link where one can read one of those references? Would get us rid of discussions later.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: Pursuivant on October 30, 2011, 04:07:50 PM
Quote from: Joberg on October 30, 2011, 12:35:08 PM
So APIT does more damage I take it? Does it normally have tracer and ball then?

APIT just does slightly different damage. It combines some of the armor-piercing outer core of an AP (armor-piercing) round, the tracer aspects of Tracer and some of the incendiary action of an Incendiary.

It's good for taking out lightly armored targets like fighter aircraft and light armored vehicles. I also believe that it has somewhat closer ballistic performance to ball (regular), AP or API (Armor Piercing Incendiary) than regular tracer, and obviously has better performance than tracer if it hits its target.

The USAAF used a lot of APIT and API during ground-attack missions in the ETO and MTO towards the end of the war, since it worked well against unarmored and lightly armored vehicles. It also worked fairly well against fighter aircraft, which is mostly what the U.S. encountered over Germany. By contrast, the Axis encountered more bombers, so they needed heavier-hitting guns like 20mm or 30mm, which fired shells which carried a high explosive charge.

For heavier prey, like tanks, I believe that straight AP rounds were preferred, with some tracer or APIT mixed in.

For unarmored targets, ball (i.e., regular) ammo was fine. I believe that in the Pacific, U.S. aircraft were just armed with a combination of ball, incendiary and tracer or APIT, which worked better to set unarmored Japanese planes alight.

Discussion of WW2 era U.S. fighter guns here:

  http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-472212.html

Probably the best, and most commonly referenced web page on WW2 era aerial guns here:

  http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/WW2guneffect.htm
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: Joberg on October 30, 2011, 05:10:50 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: Goanna on October 30, 2011, 06:12:03 PM
Seems to varying figures available, depends on where one looks  :) Couple of links I found seem to suggest that 425 rounds was the norm and one says from the D model onwards was reduced to 267 if carrying a 1000lb bomb or external fuel tanks.

425 - here. (http://www.savagesquadron.com/USpage/USFighters/Thunderbolt_P47D.htm)
267 with 1000lb here. (http://books.google.com.au/books?id=hl_jIKALDBMC&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=p47D+rounds+per+gun&source=bl&ots=UUIufLf63B&sig=b6ZCQbhfOxFUZIIYn83kUl1Ll9g&hl=en&ei=X-OtTvi6JI-uiQe25cy3Dw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDcQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false)

Cheers

Goanna
Title: Re: P-47D revised ordnance
Post by: Thunda on October 31, 2011, 09:09:24 AM
Nice looking mod, Mike- lookin forward to it.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on October 31, 2011, 09:27:12 AM
*Bump*
First WIP version available.
Please check first post of this thread.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Thunda on October 31, 2011, 09:52:01 AM
Niiiice- particularly liking the removal of the wing pylons when not in use.

Thanks,

Thunda
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: tooslow on October 31, 2011, 04:32:16 PM
Mike,

I only have a few references for the P-47 and they all are from publications in the late 1950's or early 1960's ...

The first three references are all from the Book "War Planes of the Second World War" Volume 4 by William Greene, 1961


For the P-47B&C indicating 267 rpg for 8 50 cals:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2dm5v2h.jpg)



For the P-47D series, near the bottom of the right hand column it says maximum ammo load was increased to 425 rpg, but is reduced to 267 rpg with a full ordinance load:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/xpmovl.jpg)



For the P-47D series indicating either 267 or 425 rpg:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/v8nd44.jpg)


Below is from the Book "Famous Fighters of World War II" published in 1957

For the P-47D-25-RE indicating either 267 or 425 rpg:

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2ic8pao.jpg)



Below is from the Profile Publications Number 7, no date given, but probably late 50's or early 60's

(http://i41.tinypic.com/27wsxo8.jpg)

This one shows the usual 267 or 425 rpg in the table at the bottom of the page, but the text above says that the ammo load was 300 rpg, but could be increased to 425 rpg.  So the text says 300 normal and the table indicates 267 normal.  I guess they didn't proof read this very good, but no where does it even mention 200 rpg that is in the default P-47 in the Sim.

Hope this helps .. TS



Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on November 01, 2011, 01:46:03 AM
Thank you very much for the valueable information TS.
It turns out that most sources state that either 425 or 267 RPG have been used.
Those sources which mention a reduced ammo load in case of full ordnance seem most trustworthy, since this absolutely makes sense:
The -D15 and later Jugs featured a new "universal" wing design which implemented wet wing hardpoints. In order to use those for droptanks, a depression system had to be implemented which was fed by the engine's inlet manifold vacuum. Since the latter wasn't steady in any way, some depressure accumulator had to be placed near the wet hardpoints. So besides the weight issue with full load, it's likely that there's simply been insufficient space inside the wing to hold both the depressure system with it's accumulators and the full ammo load.
That said, it looks like we're on spot with the ammo count of this mod.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: F22-Raptor-2006 on November 01, 2011, 05:12:49 AM
Looks good storebror :)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: hguderian on November 01, 2011, 05:21:56 AM
Thank You Storebror!! Really nice work!

About de-synchronized guns...is it possible to do that for the others AC also?

Regards
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Malone on November 01, 2011, 06:00:12 AM
this is great, Mike...these Jugs have needed a loadout re-work since forever, thanks mate! :D
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on November 01, 2011, 06:14:30 AM
flak&hguderian, I know we all have to get used to this first, nevertheless may I take the liberty to point you to the bottom of the first post, especially this part:
(https://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sas2/AMT/amt.png) (http://www.aviatormodteam.xtreemhost.com/main/newapp.html#WIP)

Don't worry, we do listen, but you won't see me enter any kind of subplot discussion here.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: hguderian on November 01, 2011, 06:21:18 AM
Oops...I didn't want to break any statement/agreement. It was intended to be just a suggestion.

Thanks again for your works!!
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on November 01, 2011, 06:32:21 AM
Don't worry mate, you ain't gonna "break" anything.
All you need to be aware of is that it's quite unlikely that someone from the team will join that type of subplot discussion.
That's not for us trying to be impolite, it's just a measurement we've had to take in order to ensure that we'll find time for modding, not just for answering things in our mod works threads.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Flying H on November 01, 2011, 02:50:28 PM
I´ve got a problem though, I have no pylon or structure to carry the underbelly stores, at least not in the QMB screen. (I didn´t think about looking ingame though)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Stratodog on November 01, 2011, 03:42:19 PM
Love it.  Thank you very much sir.   :) :) :)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Boelcke on November 02, 2011, 02:48:24 AM
thx for this Mod, it´s a great addition to the game

i´ve found one problem: using this mod, the P 47 (stock) loadouts aren´t compatible with older campaigns, the planes are exploding when spawning, because of the loadouts

is it possible to rename the stock loadouts so that it´s compatible again?
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Stratodog on November 02, 2011, 08:31:08 AM
Quote from: Boelcke on November 02, 2011, 02:48:24 AM
is it possible to rename the stock loadouts so that it´s compatible again?


For instance: have the stock loadouts first, followed by all the new ones?  Thus preserving the stock and adding to it?
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on November 02, 2011, 01:58:43 PM
Thanks for your suggestions.
All inquiries and bug reports up to this post have been evaluated, first post in this thread has been updated accordingly.
Thanks for working together with us on this WIP!

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Flying H on November 02, 2011, 02:34:25 PM
Great work Mike!
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Boelcke on November 03, 2011, 01:38:13 AM
thx for your efforts :)

Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Thunda on November 03, 2011, 04:09:27 AM
Yeah, excellent Mike- much appreciated. Can I just clarify that we would add the new lines in 'weapons.ru' after the original stock lines?
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on November 03, 2011, 07:37:13 AM
Quote from: Thunda on November 03, 2011, 04:09:27 AM
Can I just clarify that we would add the new lines in 'weapons.ru' after the original stock lines?
Hm...
I'm really wondering how much this would make sense.
First let me stress that the "weapons.ru" file is just a translation from the internal name of the ordnance option to some readable plain text version. That said it just doesn't matter which order you give to the entries in "weapons.ru" as long as they're there at all. What really matters is the order of ordnance options in the plane's class file respectively it's cod file, but here again for the reported bugs (aircraft exploding on mission start, old weapon loadouts not available anymore) the order wouldn't matter either, it's all about the loadout with it's internal name being there or not.

Now this leaves us with two possibilities:

I guess I'll simply offer both ways so you can see which one fits better.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: PA_Willy on November 03, 2011, 12:04:10 PM
I vote second option. Best compromise.

Thank you for this work. I like a lot the new droptanks.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Stratodog on November 03, 2011, 12:07:50 PM
I vote for option #2 as well.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 03, 2011, 12:59:13 PM
i vote we let the AMT have the ultimate Vote on this.
Their plane....
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Stratodog on November 03, 2011, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: HundertzehnGustav on November 03, 2011, 12:59:13 PM
i vote we let the AMT have the ultimate Vote on this.
Their plane....

Sounds fine to me. :)  I'm not trying to bud in on anyone's project, I simply thought they might want to hear some opinions of the end users.  If it's not my place to say anything then I'll shut up :)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 03, 2011, 02:22:08 PM
well i do not complely understand either... why vote on either...
he said you get both options. listen to da man... :)
The AMT serves everyone. :))
Love how that custom&stock loadout issue got solved.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on November 04, 2011, 08:08:46 AM
*bump*

New version released, see first post.
Now we're compatible with stock missions again and basically it works online too, however the latter isn't intended to be used that way since the raised ammo count may let you look like a cheater.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Thunda on November 04, 2011, 10:11:58 AM
Thanks Mike.......
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: 4./JG53_Badger on November 05, 2011, 12:12:26 PM
Outstanding dude!
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: tooslow on November 23, 2011, 11:00:47 PM
Appreciate the effort and the results.

Thanks ... TS
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: KG3_V on December 16, 2011, 08:50:03 AM
How will this work with 4.09 and the SAS weapons mod ?
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: hguderian on December 16, 2011, 09:06:53 AM
 :o

Quote
Installation requirements:
You need some of the big mod packs being around, either HSFX or UP3 (with or without DBW on top).
This pack is not compatible with Stock 4.10.1m since it needs a whole lot additional stuff (might be possible to add everything manually, but it's strictly unsupported).

It's labeled as  410 MOD...SO NO 409 joy!
If it requires UP3...no 409 joy!

Cheers
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: KG3_V on December 16, 2011, 09:13:58 AM
I hate 4.10 and UP3 ;)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: CWMV on December 16, 2011, 09:17:58 AM
Your entitled to feel however you want, but there is a reason these have a big blue 4.10 marker next to the name in the OP.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Rock on December 16, 2011, 09:18:22 AM
Quote from: KG3_V on December 16, 2011, 09:13:58 AM
I hate 4.10 and UP3 ;)

Shame ;)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: KG3_V on December 16, 2011, 09:46:08 AM
tomorrow i will test a up3 / dbw installation on a second brand fresh IL2 with all patches.  so i can speak also about it and have seen it by my own eyes
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on December 16, 2011, 10:59:05 AM
You hate something you've neither seen nor tested yourself?
"Waiter, I'd like to have the same drink like this guy just had please!"

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: KG3_V on December 16, 2011, 05:00:45 PM
i hate something that will "kill" my mods which I collected over 3 years ;)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Gumpy on December 16, 2011, 06:30:10 PM
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/Bingo1957/Untitled-1-2.jpg)I must be doing something wrong if I choose the first option in the picture I see all the weapons including the 108gallon drop tanks and can see them in game but,if I choose just the 2x108gallon drop tanks they wont show up in the arming screen or in game.Anyone have an Idea what the problem might be?I see in the first page of the thread they are there. (http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/Bingo1957/new_wing_108gal.jpg)  As a matter of fact I'm not seeing any of the plane drop tank loadouts show up in the arming screen or in game (http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/Bingo1957/1612201117-48-59.jpg)  DBW 1.6 Do I need a weapons pack or something?[UPDATE] This mod clashes with my P-47 cockpit mod that's why I can't see all the various loadouts,I'll see if I can work around it.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Gumpy on December 16, 2011, 09:20:14 PM
For anybody who experienced the same thing I did,that is adding this mod and not seeing any of the new drop tank loadouts available,here is what the problem is or in my case was.I and perhaps you have a P-47 cockpit mod installed in your mod folder and they are clashing so here is what I did to fix the problem.Open up your P-47 cockpit folder and look for these three files(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/Bingo1957/zrty.jpg) and remove them from the P-47 cockpit folder as they are also in the P-47D Ordnance Patch and seem to clash.After removing the three file from the cockpit folder you can now enjoy both mods.(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/Bingo1957/s6566.jpg)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on December 17, 2011, 12:11:09 AM
Thx for the report Gumpy, I'll check how to get both mods compatible a little easier.
One other suggestion would be to rename the Jugs' ordnance patch folder from "P-47D Ordnance Patch" to something like "0000_P-47D Ordnance Patch" so it will be loaded first.
Anyway... since I tried some P-47 cockpit patches unsuccessful during development of this ordnance patch, may I ask you which particular cockpit patch you were using, maybe you can even provide a link to the regarding mod's thread? Thank you very much!

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Gumpy on December 17, 2011, 12:48:11 AM
Quote from: SAS~Storebror on December 17, 2011, 12:11:09 AM
Thx for the report Gumpy, I'll check how to get both mods compatible a little easier.
One other suggestion would be to rename the Jugs' ordnance patch folder from "P-47D Ordnance Patch" to something like "0000_P-47D Ordnance Patch" so it will be loaded first.
Anyway... since I tried some P-47 cockpit patches unsuccessful during development of this ordnance patch, may I ask you which particular cockpit patch you were using, maybe you can even provide a link to the regarding mod's thread? Thank you very much!

Best regards - Mike
Tried renaming folder and got 70% CTD,and I'm using Freddy's cockpit.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on December 17, 2011, 01:41:51 PM
Quote from: Gumpy on December 17, 2011, 12:48:11 AM
I'm using Freddy's cockpit.
Hm yes, unfortunately as much as I can see all traces of that mod disappeared at Histomod, can't find it there anymore.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: CWMV on December 17, 2011, 07:09:50 PM
Likewise. Ive been looking for them for a few days.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Goanna on December 17, 2011, 10:07:45 PM
Link that works for Freddy's P47 cockpit in this thread ->  https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=14297.0

Cheers

Goanna
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: CWMV on February 12, 2012, 02:06:56 PM
Just wanted to say thanks for this, again.
Really one of my favorite mods. Especially the un-synchronized .50's. I hope to see this expanded to more American aircraft (p-40 pleasepleasepleaseplease.....)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: woofiedog on April 08, 2013, 03:02:00 AM
Excellent work... Thank's
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: henkypenky on April 13, 2013, 03:36:23 AM
O man, I sometimes think this game is designed to make me crazy; earlier this week I dl'd this great mod, installed it without a problem and it worked ok. Than I tried to 'clean-up' the #SAS folder by disabeling double class files. Obviously I disabled one that wasn't a real double and the game froze when a mission was at 100%. But, no problem as I got an older back-up copy of the game and I put the older #SAS folder back in the game, removed some unwanted mods and added some I had in my previous install. Everything worked except this mod. And strange it is: without the mod I have the normal load-out list. When 'Stock first' is added I see the normal load-out list with only *Default and *75 gal. droptank or center_tank075 added. ( I did not changed the weapons_ru)
When Stock inline is added the normal load-out list is replaced with only Default, Extra Ammunition and 1 x 75 Gal Droptank.
I have the loading sequence as 1, Revised ordnance, 2 P-47 mod fix, 3 P-47 cowling, engine and prop, 4 P-47D-30 & 40, 5 P-47D pits v3.14 by Poncho. I did have the P-47C in my older install, removed it from the 'new one', put it back in again, but I can't get this one to work again. If someone knows a solution I'll be very happy.   
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Malone on April 13, 2013, 03:46:41 AM
hi henky, sounds like the same problem i recently went through.
have a look in this thread where i've posted, and also earlier in the thread is the link you need for the P-51 AAA UI1.2 weapons you need ;)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,16816.msg366135.html#msg366135
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: henkypenky on April 13, 2013, 06:12:55 AM
And than I feel so stupid! This is exactly the mod I left out  :-[ ; thought that it only was the second or third version of the 75 gallon droptank. Thanks a lot Malone  :)

Do you perhaps also know why this 75 gallon tank is floating free, instead of being attached to the fuselage rack?   
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Malone on April 20, 2013, 04:57:39 AM
no, i don't know about that- isn't it perhaps just like that in the preview window, but ingame it shows correctly?
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: henkypenky on April 20, 2013, 06:37:31 AM
Hi Malone, thanks again for your answer; to bad the floating tank is in game and preview window.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on July 13, 2013, 07:22:55 PM
Working in 4.12
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: barrett_g on July 13, 2013, 07:32:25 PM
WHAT!?!  I tried this mod and it didn't work.... I may have to visit this one again and see if I can't get it to work.

Any chances we can tempt Storebror to add napalm, M26 incendiary, and cluster munitions?

(Awesome screenshot btw)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on July 13, 2013, 07:37:49 PM
Thats up to him, but dont be surprised what might come our way, Mike is the Magic Man, oh and a big hot cup of Joe for him wouldnt hurt either.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: barrett_g on July 13, 2013, 07:49:59 PM
How do I send him this coffee you talk about? ;)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on July 13, 2013, 07:53:10 PM
Its the thought that counts, lol
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: barrett_g on July 13, 2013, 08:05:42 PM
I'm currently working on loadouts that include some napalm and the m26.  There are some things that need adjusting that I dont know how to do yet...  Like some of the fuel tanks hang too low.... But maybe I'll send the file to him so he can polish it up a bit and release it.  It might save him some time.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on July 13, 2013, 08:26:34 PM
He should be logged on in a few hours, maybe He'll post a reply!
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: barrett_g on July 13, 2013, 08:44:58 PM
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/Barrett_g_album/null_zpsbd3ed1a6.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on July 13, 2013, 08:55:14 PM
There you go :)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: CWMV on July 13, 2013, 09:35:48 PM
F*ck if it gets the jug some love Ill send him a damn starbucks gift card.
Should we take up donations?
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Typhoon Ib on July 14, 2013, 09:25:37 AM
that would be frickin hilarious!
go! ;D
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on July 17, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Don't worry, it's on the ToDo list already 8)

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: barrett_g on July 17, 2013, 06:55:07 PM
Good to hear!
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on July 17, 2013, 08:37:36 PM
+1 :D
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: CWMV on July 17, 2013, 08:38:56 PM
Quote from: SAS~Storebror on July 17, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Don't worry, it's on the ToDo list already 8)

Best regards - Mike

I knew you loved jugs.
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on August 31, 2013, 08:24:27 AM
This Mod works in MA 5.22 (4.12.1m)

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/a/img819/3518/2z28.jpg)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on August 31, 2013, 03:41:35 PM
Bravo can you tell which mod have you also installed?

I haven't managed to have it working and got all stock P-47 loadouts empty....
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: sphantom on August 31, 2013, 03:50:03 PM
Bravo tell them or I will rat you out
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: hguderian on September 11, 2013, 10:44:45 AM
---BUMP :)

I've the same prob as walter and sphantom....

...how did you get it to work under 412.1?

Regards
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on September 12, 2013, 09:57:51 PM
Sorry guy's, Iv not been playing IL2 in a while, once I get back into it Ill post what I did to have this working in 4.12.1m
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on September 12, 2013, 11:33:48 PM
Hi mates,

Sorry for my long absence from this thread. It's been a while since I put hands on 4.10.1m stuff.
Regarding 4.12.1m compatibility, let me repeat a statement from the initial post:
Quote
You need some of the big mod packs being around, either HSFX or UP3 (with or without DBW on top).
This pack is not compatible with Stock 4.10.1m since it needs a whole lot additional stuff (might be possible to add everything manually, but it's strictly unsupported).

This is meant right as you read it. This "Jugs reloaded" version relies on many, many additional stuff being part e.g. of HSFX, UP3 or DBW. It's neither in Stock 4.10.1m nor in Stock 4.12.1m.
The mod itself would be more or less compatible with 4.12.1m but you'd have to manually add the additional requirements to it.

Cutting the long story short:
Thanks to barrett_g there will be a new version available, compatible with 4.12.1m, soon.
To give you some impression, this is what we're working on:

All we have to ask you for is a little patience. We're working on it and as soon as there's something more or less usable you'll get the chance to grab it in another WIP thread.

Thanks again to barrett_g for bringing life back into the Jugs pack and best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Malone on September 13, 2013, 12:03:08 AM
you have my patience, and my gratitude, and i am very much looking forward to the 'BIGGER Jugs Reloaded' package! :D
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: hguderian on September 13, 2013, 12:50:46 AM
Great news!!! Thank you!
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Typhoon Ib on September 13, 2013, 01:40:52 AM
1200 options

Boys! wut r u doing!
Boys! stahp!
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on September 13, 2013, 02:18:13 AM
Just to clarify this:
1.200 is the total number of all current ordnance options of all Jug models together with a peak of more than 200 ordnance options on the adopted P-47N-15.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: NNFFLYLB on November 07, 2013, 01:43:23 AM
Quote from: SAS~Storebror on September 13, 2013, 02:18:13 AM
Just to clarify this:
1.200 is the total number of all current ordnance options of all Jug models together with a peak of more than 200 ordnance options on the adopted P-47N-15.


 :o :P  :P
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on November 29, 2013, 08:32:58 PM
Cool, this works in MA 5.3, Thanks Mike!!!

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/a/img202/3715/9apr.jpg)
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on November 30, 2013, 09:33:27 AM
Any chance to have this working for D30's & D40's?
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on November 30, 2013, 10:57:58 AM
Yes that's being worked on.
There's been some delay for Modact development and since finishing the Whirlwind eventually had higher priority, but we're slowly catching up with a fully revamped Jugs pack.
Stay tuned ;)

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: BravoFxTrt on November 30, 2013, 11:59:08 AM
Awesome, Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Griffon_301 on November 30, 2013, 12:26:23 PM
that sounds great :)
will the revised loadouts also be working on DBW?
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: CALINHO on November 30, 2013, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: "BRAVO" on November 29, 2013, 08:32:58 PM
Cool, this works in MA 5.3, Thanks Mike!!!

do not quote pics please.

Not work for me :'(

Old loaduts appear in the list, but new, not appear.

I use Stock First, because Stock inline not appear nothing

Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: Ghost129er on February 06, 2014, 10:52:11 PM
Quote from: SAS~Storebror on October 30, 2011, 10:07:40 AM

While this mod version is basically compatible with both stock missions and online gameplay, please note that due to the fact that stock loadouts have been altered, stock missions might not turn out as expected and you might be called a "cheater" when using this mod online, especially due to the raised ammo count.


 (https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-ash3/t5/276919_273005539409230_1456118924_n.jpg)
Got me. 8) Lol, that post made me laugh, it's true, yeah, but hilarious when you think about it in a way.   :-X
Title: Re: Jugs reloaded (P-47D revised ordnance)
Post by: SAS~Storebror on March 16, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
New version available in public aircraft release thread:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=39846.0

This thread is locked now.

Best regards - Mike