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the SAS Hangar => The Lounge => Requests & Ideas => Topic started by: Kopfdorfer on June 28, 2012, 01:40:48 PM
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Here is a request for the first days of summer... the Vought OS2-U Kingfisher.
(http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/aircraft/Kingfisher_os2u_Museum_colour.jpg)
In early war livery
No float version
(http://aerofiles.com/vot-os2u1.jpg)(http://media.hobzob.com/files/2047/vehicle/4b526bb2adffd/batch_2_034.jpg)
Wheels Down Float Version
(http://www.carrierbuilders.net/gallery/20110606_Vought_OS2U_Kingfisher/image_last.jpg)
The Vought OS2U Kingfisher was an American catapult-launched observation floatplane. It was a compact mid-wing monoplane, with a large central float and small stabilizing floats. Performance was modest, because of its light engine. The OS2U could also operate on fixed, wheeled, taildragger landing gear.
Office Overview
(http://forum.valka.cz/files/vought_os2u-3_kingfisher_front.jpg)(http://www.aviation-history.com/garber/images/vought_OS2U-5.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4005/4562137954_41a40f367b_z.jpg)
(http://navypilotoverseas.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/77a6247d839c2c27_large.jpg)
The OS2U was the main shipboard observation aircraft used by the United States Navy during World War II, and 1,519 of the aircraft were built. It served on battleships and cruisers of the US Navy, with the United States Marine Corps in Marine Scouting Squadron THREE (VMS-3), with the United States Coast Guard at coastal air stations, at sea with the Fleet Air Arm of the Royal Navy, and with the Soviet Navy. The Royal Australian Air Force also operated a few Kingfishers from shore bases.
(https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/ww2planes/ww2-vought/vought_os2u_1_2_3-19955.jpg)
(http://www.the-blueprints.com/modules/vectordrawings/preview-wm/vought_os2u-1_kingfisher.jpg)
(http://www.outerzone.co.uk/images/thumbs/plans/60.jpg)
The first 54 Kingfishers were delivered to the U.S. Navy beginning in August 1940 and six had been assigned to the Pearl Harbor based Battle Force before the end of the same year. Many of the following 158 OS2U-2s were attached to flight training at Naval Air Station Pensacola, Florida, but 53 were assigned to equip the newly established Inshore Patrol Squadrons, based at NAS Jacksonville, Florida. In 1942, nine more Inshore Patrol Squadrons were established, all exclusively equipped with OS2N-1s built by the Naval Aircraft Factory.
(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/947/pics/3_11.jpg)
The Kingfisher was widely used as a shipboard, catapult-launched scout plane on US Navy battleships, heavy cruisers and light cruisers during World War II, as well as playing a major role in support of shore bombardments and air-sea rescue. Two examples showing the plane's rescue capabilities include the recovery of World War I ace Eddie Rickenbacker and his crew from the Pacific in November 1942 and LT John A. Burns' unique use of the aircraft in April 1944 to taxi airmen rescued from the Truk Lagoon to the submarine USS Tang which was serving rescue duty near the atoll on that date. In all, LT Burns rescued 10 survivors on two trips and was awarded the Navy Cross for his efforts. Additionally, the Kingfisher served as a trainer in both its seaplane and landplane configurations throughout the war. The OS2U and even its predecessor, the Curtiss SOC Seagull served much longer than planned, as the planned successor, the Curtiss SO3C Seamew, suffered from an insufficiently powerful engine which was a complete failure.The OS2U was only slowly replaced in the latter stages of World War II with the introduction of the Curtiss SC Seahawk, the first examples reaching the U.S. Navy in October 1944.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w126/warbirdmech/OS2U_NAS_Corpus_Christi_Aug_1942.jpg)
Scene at Ranwers cottage (we wish!!!)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/zug556/vought-os2u-2-kingfisher-floatplane-01.png)
Australia received 18 Kingfishers from a batch of aircraft ordered by the Dutch East Indies that was diverted to Australia in 1942. They were initially used as training aircraft for pilots destined for flying boats, but in 1943, they were used to equip No. 107 Squadron RAAF, which carried out convoy escort duties until disbanded in October 1945. One Kingfisher was used in support of the Australian National Antarctic Research Expedition in 1947–48.
Mid-war USN
(http://www.myhobbylinks.com/images/US-OS2U3.JPG)
Dutch (?)
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/2-Airplanes/Allies/5-Others/Netherlands/Vought-OS2U-3/p3.jpg)(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/947/pics/92_1.jpg)
USSR
(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/947/pics/1_1.jpg)(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/947/pics/1_1_b2.jpg)
Aussie
(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/947/pics/81_4.jpg)
RN
(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/947/pics/9_3.jpg)(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/947/pics/9_2.jpg)
Role Observation floatplane
Manufacturer Vought
First flight 1938
Retired 1959 (Cuba)
Primary users United States Navy
Fleet Air Arm
Royal Australian Air Force
Soviet Naval Aviation
Number built 1519
On the Catapult
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3419/3403631596_843562a0bb_z.jpg?zz=1)
On the hoist
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HK3jReiJaOI/Tas-b1w0EkI/AAAAAAAAAco/1w6_U2YY1O8/s1600/OS2U-1Rescue.jpg)
Tailgunner seat detail
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa17/dmitrikovalev/vought_OS2U-6.jpg)(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g60000/g66114.jpg)(http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/aviation/43940d1299772768t-carrier-operations-4x4-art-hickman-os2u-santa-fe-150.jpg)
(http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/aviation/56182d1299776910t-need-help-vought-os2u-kingfisher-209_9.jpg) (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k01000/k01948.jpg)
A fine water fowl for the end of June.
Kopfdorfer
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Wouldnt it be great to have this one? I sure wish. Maybe someday. :)
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summer for some, maybe......it's the middle of winter here in the southern hemisphere, lol! :D
certainly it's a plane that's needed, but i'm sure this plane has been requested ages ago already, and if i'm not mistaken, it was a WIP by (somebody) for a long time already....?
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I dont recall a WIP but I sure do wish. :)
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If we wait ten more minutes Ranwers will probably pop up and have one ready to go, LOL. How many times has he done that? Too often to count. Well, probably not this time. The miracle worker can only pull so many miracles out of his hat. We love you Ranwers. Warmest regards.
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Good request, Kopfdorfer. I'd like to see it too. Can't have too many sea planes. I'd do a single mission for it, and use it where applicable.
cheers
David Prosser
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I have seen this airplane mod somewhere ;D
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I know that a finished external model exists for IL-2, but it wasn't used because of that Grumman issue just like P-61 and SB2C. That P-61 now flies in HSFX6, so there might still be some hope.
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That Dutch is nice!
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The Dutch colonial government ordered 24 Kingfishers, but they were diverted to the Australians when the hostilities with the Japanese began.
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Will love to see this one and the F1M Pete, unfortunately it seems not too many modders like the seaplanes.
BTW from some angles look a lot like a SBD Dauntless.
I linked this book, so maybe a modder can give it a go.
http://depositfiles.com/files/2ac1po6fu
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Capitanstratos/Imagen1-87.jpg)
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....unfortunately it seems not too many modders like the seaplanes.
eh? i know of at least one rather well-known chap who really loves building seaplanes...:D
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Wondering if a Dauntless with the Rufe floats, can work... What do you think?
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Cool as a model, but I have a connection to this plane! - My uncle was in a mid-air collision in one, ferrying it to be decommissioned. They landed ok, but he said even when they were new, everybody hated them....
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This plane and it's request deserves a bump... Especially with ten010's M6A1 and I400 mod in the works.... Seaplanes catapulting off cruisers won't be to far off!!!
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Don't we already have the 3D in the Objects now?........... Either a Dauntless, or Buffalo cockpit would work in lieu of a brand new one. I'd like to see it in game too, with our pilot rescue mod it would come in very handy, we wouldn't have to fly the PBY all the time.
Cheers
Hoss
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A pilot rescue mod ? I never heard about this... sounds interesting ! any info ?
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A pilot rescue mod ? I never heard about this... sounds interesting ! any info ?
it is under the command and control mod... it is called SAR (surface air rescue) it places a downed pilot in the sea at the location of the object, and you can go rescue him! if the enemy gets too close, he is captured. its very interesting. there is an on-land version of the SAR object called RESCAP, but represents a pilot shot down over land.
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This plane and it's request deserves a bump... Especially with ten010's M6A1 and I400 mod in the works.... Seaplanes catapulting off cruisers won't be to far off!!!
i agree barrett. I love aircraft like this one. +1 for the kingfisher. ;D
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A pilot rescue mod ? I never heard about this... sounds interesting ! any info ?
It's an AG-51 Mod for HSFX, made by Fireball. Works very well, usually the first guy to die on our DF server missions will go grab a PBY and wait for other guys to ditch and then pick them up, you get points for it too...........
Here's the explanation of the mod, it's still in beta test, once it's good to go we will probably put in the public forums with the other mods and you'll be able to use it.
AG-51 Aircrew Rescue 1.0 for HSFX 6
In a stock multi-player mission, if you lose your engine, or get damaged, or run out of gas, you just try to ditch or bailout somewhere outside of enemy territory. Once you're on the ground or in the water you lay there on the ground or float there in the water for about 30 seconds, then you disappear and you're done. Everyone else on your team presses on home, because there's nothing anyone can do for you. There's really no incentive for you to try to ditch or bailout near a rescue submarine, or near a reference point so rescuers will have an easier time locating you. There's no incentive for your wingman to stay with you as long as possible to protect you and mark your location. No rescue aircraft comes looking for you. None of the things that happened in real life to try to get you home really apply in the game.
This mod gives you two ways to get rescued:
- If you successfully ditch or bailout within 1000 meters of a friendly airfield or a friendly ship (including submarines), once you're down you can press your Attach/Detach key, then you and all of your crewmen will disappear and the game will log that you have been successfully rescued. Until you press your Attach/Detach key you will lay there on the ground or float in the water indefinitely.
- If you successfully ditch or bailout in the water more than 1000 meters from a a friendly ship or friendly airbase, instead of disappearing after 30 seconds you and your crewmen continue to float there in the water (unless you disconnect of course). One of your team mates can come searching for you in a seaplane. If the seaplane locates you, he'll land nearby, approach to within 100 meters, then press his Attach/Detach key. If he's close enough, you will disappear at that point, and the game will log that you've been picked up. Your team mate will fly the seaplane back to any friendly ship and land nearby. He'll approach to within 1000 meters of any ship, then press his Attach/Detach key. This will "unload" all the rescued airmen on board. The game will log that you have been successfully rescued.
[NOTE: All the descriptions of a seaplane rescue in the water would also apply to rescuing airmen downed on land if you can get a rescue aircraft of some sort within 100 meters of them to pick them up, then successfully get them back to a friendly base.]
the Kingfisher would be a great plane for this mod... sure hope it gets done sooner than later. Another mod that would be good is to get deployable landing gear on the PBY for land taxi into the water and take offs or just takeoff and landings on land. The Kingfisher also had landing gear, would definitely add a new dimension to the planes.
Cheers.
Hoss
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This plane and it's request deserves a bump... Especially with ten010's M6A1 and I400 mod in the works.... Seaplanes catapulting off cruisers won't be to far off!!!
i agree barrett. I love aircraft like this one. +1 for the kingfisher. ;D
IL-2 needs more seaplanes!!! It's my dream to have this plane, the Curtiss Seahawks, the Grumman Goose, and a better 3D model of the PBY in the sim.... Maybe here in a couple days ill bump my Grumman Goose request.
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Yup, some additional seaplanes, both red and blue would be nice.
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Oh, yes! The lovely Kingfisher is a +1 for sure. More seaplanes yes. 8) Japan used floatplanes quite a bit. Love to see the Aichi E13A 'Jake', Aichi E16A Zuin (Paul) etc. (prefer not franken) and the OS2U. Good request. :)
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I apologize for piggy-backing to this, but I tried to figure out (real noobie!!!!!) how to post my own new topic in seaplanes but I don't have a button even though I am a registered member (today). I would love to see a Curtiss SOC-3 Seagull Seaplane. It exists in both CFS2, FS9 and FSX. There is also a lot of really good pictures on the 'net which I downloaded probably 40 pages of stuff last night and in storage somewhere I have the Profile #194 though if somebody agreed to do this bird, I know where I can buy another copy cheap and can scan it for the builder to use. I am new to IL2; my good friend got me interested; I've got 2000 hours in commercials in FS9. Been flying the Curtiss P40 Warhawk out of Pearl on IL2. I fly great, but a real nugget at dogfighting. So far I've been lucky and been able to crash land and "not die or get wounded yet".
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but I tried to figure out (real noobie!!!!!) how to post my own new topic in seaplanes but I don't
have a button even though I am a registered member (today).
Hi tgycgijoes and welcome here! :)
You can make new topics (and polls) in some sections,
in other sections modders only can make new topics. ;)
I would love to see a Curtiss SOC-3 Seagull Seaplane.
you can make a new request topic for this plane in the request section here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/board,175.0.html (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/board,175.0.html)
but - please - read the guideline before:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,12475.0.html (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,12475.0.html)
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With Ten010's I-400 class sub that can catapult the new Japanese floatplane off its deck I know destroyer's with working catapult's are just around the corner. With that being the case... Kingfisher is a relevant plane for the feature.... Here's a few pics that may be useful:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/Barrett_g_album/null_zpsdd493c5c.jpg)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/Barrett_g_album/null_zpsd51cc3e9.jpg)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/Barrett_g_album/null_zps50278e7a.jpg)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/Barrett_g_album/null_zps405c1e80.jpg)
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This is on my "to-do" list, along with the F1M pete. I don't know which i'll tackle first, depends on how well the double ailerons go on the Stranraer.
I won't be able to tackle the catapult - but I would love to see a destroyer/cruiser/battleship catapult in game. Have a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsBGPjc8DFE
-Matt
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Great news!
Was that a bullet hole in the windscreen of that plane?
Brave men to stand there with the plane/wing/float flying at them on all sides!
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As far as I am concerned one of the most significant aircraft in the "SIM" considering its contribution in WWII,that is missing.
Here's a photo of the "Bug" survived Pearl & then later on rescued Eddie Rickenbacker.
For more information on his rescue LINK - http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b-17/40-3089.html
(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/Duggy009-2/Vought%20Kingfisher/TheBugtheOS2UKingfisherseaplanethatrescuedCaptainEddieRickenbakerandothersaftertheirairplanecrashinthePacific.jpg) (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/Duggy009/media/Duggy009-2/Vought%20Kingfisher/TheBugtheOS2UKingfisherseaplanethatrescuedCaptainEddieRickenbakerandothersaftertheirairplanecrashinthePacific.jpg.html)
For more info on this unique little aircraft, (I got to see one in Havana) that's in Cuba!!
Link -- http://www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?5792
Regards Duggy