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the SAS Hangar => The Lounge => Requests & Ideas => Topic started by: Wildchild on July 08, 2012, 10:33:51 AM

Title: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: Wildchild on July 08, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
We really need more twin engine Carrier planes. So.....

(http://www.nassanfordmemorial.com/images/Savage.jpg)

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At the end of World War II, the US Navy felt the need to acquire a nuclear strike capability to maintain its political influence. In the short term, carrier-based aircraft were the ideal solution. Nuclear munitions at that time were bulky and required a large aircraft to carry them. The Navy improvised a carrier-based nuclear strike plane by modifying the Lockheed P2V Neptune twin-prop ocean patrol aircraft for carrier takeoff using jet assisted takeoff (JATO) rocket boosters, with initial takeoff tests in 1948. But the Neptune couldn't land on a carrier, so the crew either had to make their way to a friendly land base after a strike, or ditch in the sea near a US Navy vessel.
 
The AJ Savage was a large composite-powered carrier-borne Attack Bomber designed to deliver nuclear ordnance. It also performed photo reconnaissance duties and later on was used as an aerial refueling platform. The North American AJ-1/2 and AJ-1/2P Savage aircraft were in a number of USN Heavy Attack Composite squadrons from 1948–1956, as well as in several Photographic Reconnaissance squadrons. The Heavy Attack versions were the first nuclear bomb carrying bombers able to be launched from and recovered on aircraft carriers.
 
The date of its design inception was a time where the US Navy was faced with procuring the nascent jet engine, while still having to rely upon the simple yet well proven reciprocating engine. Jets at this time were unreliable and used large quantities of fuel; however, once they were developed, they produced performance that no piston engine could ever provide. A compromise was made to include in the Savage two Pratt & Whitney R-2800 piston engines, with a large turbocharger fitted inside each engine nacelle. This combination made it possible for the R-2800 engines to produce rated power (2,500 hp/1,864 kW) up to 42,000 ft (12,802 m) altitude. An Allison J33 turbojet was fitted in the rear fuselage. Interestingly, both engine types used the same fuel. The piston-turbojet arrangement was intended to give added power on take-off and extra dash speed while in combat. At high altitude, this "boxy" looking (but aerodynamically very clean) airplane was remarkably fast, reaching more than 460 mph (740 km/h), when the jets of that era were not very much faster.

Early model Savages (AJ-1) were converted to the air tanker role, with the bomb bay filled with all the necessary equipment, including hoses, fuel pumps, electric power drive, and the drogue. Additional fuel was provided in drop tanks. AJ-1 tankers were used to refuel John Glenn's F8U Crusader during the Project Bullet transcontinental speed record flight.[2]
 
The AJ-2 first flew on 19 February 1953 and had uprated engines and a taller vertical stabilizer and non-dihedral tailplane.
 
The AJ-2P was the photographic reconnaissance version of the Savage. It carried photo-flash bombs for night missions, with most of the plane's 18 cameras being operated automatically. It was capable of night and low-level reconnaissance. The -2P also had additional fuel capacity.
 
The Savage didn't remain in frontline service long because it was seen as an interim solution from the day it performed its first flight, the Navy having already put the wheels in motion for a much better successor, the all jet powered Douglas A-3 Skywarrior.
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General characteristics:
 Crew: 3
 Length: 63 ft 1 in (19.2 m)
 Wingspan: 71 ft 5 in (21.8 m)
 Height: 20 ft 5 in (6.2 m)
 Wing area: 836 ft² (78 m²)
 Empty weight: 27,558 lb (12,500 kg)
 Loaded weight: 47,000 lb (21,363 kg)
 Max. takeoff weight: 50,954 lb (23,161 kg)
 Powerplant: 1 × Allison J33-A-1 turbojet, 4,600 lbf[6] (20 kN)
 2 × Pratt & Whitney R-2800-44W radial engines, 2,400 hp[6] (1,790 kW) each
 
Performance:
 Maximum speed: 471 mph[6] (409 kn, 758 km/h)
 Range: 1,731 mi[7] (1,505 nmi, 2,787 km)
 Service ceiling: 40,800 ft[7] (12,440 m)
 Rate of climb: 2,900 ft/min (14.7 m/s[7])
 Wing loading: 63.2 lb/ft² (309 kg/m²)
 Power/mass (prop): 0.091 hp/lb (150 W/kg)
 Thrust/weight (jet): 0.087
 
Armament:
 Bombs: 12,000 lb (5,400 kg) conventional bombs, or 1× nuclear bomb

(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/usa/na_savage-s.gif)

(http://www.midwaysailor.com/midway1950/midway-912b.jpg)

(http://modelingmadness.com/contests/usncontest/cattard72aj.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-riOMK8uOofw/ThyRR91u_mI/AAAAAAAABT4/MPf-l3Ipc1A/s1600/AJ-1+wf+Mk+4+Redux.jpg)
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: SAS~Malone on July 08, 2012, 10:34:55 AM
cool! :D
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on July 08, 2012, 10:39:59 AM
+1000.............................. anything with a tail hook on it is good with me, and very welcome with AG-51...... 

Cheers

Hoss



Beat ya again Razor.... ???
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: Wildchild on July 08, 2012, 10:42:19 AM
It combines my 2 favorite things. R-2800's and a Jet engine  ;D ;D ;D

Oh something elts too. this plane has no canopy. You get in and out from a door located in the center fuslage. If you want to bail out, I think the nosewheel gear drops and you fall out the bottom
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: RealDarko on July 08, 2012, 12:21:59 PM
WOW!! This plane rocks!!
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: Fusek on July 08, 2012, 12:39:44 PM
Sexy plane.
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: Wildchild on July 09, 2012, 10:42:25 PM
Any other intrested people? lol
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: Boosh on July 09, 2012, 11:00:15 PM
They operated off of Intrepid in 1954 on the straight deck, would be fun to have them!
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: AG-51_Razor on July 10, 2012, 10:56:50 AM
It would make for an awesome tanker for the jets as well as being a heavy bomber. This aircraft is what put the P2V out of business as the Navy's carrier borne atomic delivery vehicle.....probably much to the relief of the pilots in the P2V community  ;)
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: Clint Watters on September 16, 2014, 05:14:23 PM
+1

C.W.
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: Ghost129er on September 21, 2014, 09:44:42 PM
Any other intrested people? lol

Uhh... Negative...
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: duffys tavern on September 22, 2014, 04:16:27 AM
Yes, would to love to have this. Great idea!
Title: Re: AJ-1 Savage
Post by: jetboy19 on October 08, 2014, 12:42:17 PM
Would be a great addition to the sim, is anyone currently working on it? :)