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the SAS Hangar => The Lounge => Requests & Ideas => Topic started by: Bizu on September 05, 2012, 04:34:28 AM

Title: Il-28
Post by: Bizu on September 05, 2012, 04:34:28 AM
I made this request because this plane has so much history and it deserves to be in the game


(http://www.skybird-ev.de/tour/romania/yr310.jpg)

(http://www.skybird-ev.de/tour/romania/yr709.jpg)

(http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/bil28_p_04_l.jpg)

(http://designer.home.xs4all.nl/models/soviet/il28rear.jpg)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/15584909.jpg)

(http://img.defencetalk.com/pictures/data/3607/medium/Il-28_rear_gun_turret_2.jpg)

Variants

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Soviet Union variants
Il-28 – Three-seat bomber version
Il-28D – Long-range nuclear bomber for the Soviet Air Force
Il-28R – Three-seat tactical reconnaissance version
Il-28REB – Electronic warfare, electronic jamming version
Il-28RTR – Elecronic reconnaissance version
Il-28S – Swept-wing version, scrapped before it was completed
Il-28T – Torpedo bomber version for the Soviet Naval Aviation able to accommodate one large or two small torpedoes in a lengthened weapons bay.
Il-28P – Civil conversion for Aeroflot mail service. By some accounts, also denoted Il-20
Il-28U – Training version
Il-28ZA – Atmospheric sampling version


Chinese variants
Harbin H-5 – (Hongzhaji - bomber) Chinese bomber version.
Harbin H-5A - Speculative designation of nuclear capable H-5 variant.
Harbin HD-5 – (Hongzhaji Dian - bomber/electronic reconnaissance) Chinese ECM/ESM version.
Harbin HJ-5 – (Hongzhaji Jiaolianji - bomber trainer)Chinese trainer version.
Harbin HZ-5 - (Hongzhaji Zhenchaji - bomber/reconnaissance) Long-range reconnaissance version.
Harbin B-5 – Export designation of the H-5
Harbin B-5R - Export version of HZ-5 long range photo reconnaissance version
Harbin BT-5 - Export version of the HJ-5.
Harbin H-5 Ying (Ying - eagle) Avionics testbed for Xian JH-7 programme.
Shenyang/CAE H-5B - Speculative designation for the H-5 re-engined with WS-5 aft-fan engines.


Czechoslovakian variants
B-228 – Il-28s built by Avia under licence in Czechoslovakia
CB-228 – Il-28Us built by Avia under licence in Czechoslovakia

Specifications


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Il-28

Bomber

The Ilyushin Il-28 is a twin-engined medium bomber aircraft developed by the Soviet design bureau Ilyushin OKB.

Crew 3
 
Propulsion 2 Turbojet Engines
Engine Model Klimow / Klimov WK-1 / VK-1
Engine Power (each) 53,8 kN 12095 lbf
 
Speed 900 km/h 486 kts
  559 mph
Service Ceiling 12.300 m 40.354 ft
Range 2.180 km 1.177 NM
1.354 mi.
 
Empty Weight 11.890 kg 26.213 lbs
max. Takeoff Weight 21.000 kg 46.297 lbs
 
Wing Span 21,45 m 70,4 ft
Wing Area 60,8 m² 654 ft²
Length 17,65 m 57,9 ft
Height 6,70 m 22,0 ft
 
First Flight 08.07.1948
Production Status out of production
Total Production >6000
 
NATO Code Beagle
Data for (Version) Iljuschin / Ilyushin Il-28
Remarks
The Il-28 was also licence-built in the Peoples Republic of China as the Harbin H-5.



Specifications for the Ilyushin IL-28 (Beagle) Dimensions:
Length: 57.91ft (17.65m)
Width: 70.37ft (21.45m)
Height: 21.98ft (6.70m) Performance: (About MACH)
Maximum Speed: 560mph (902kmh; 487kts)
Maximum Range: 1,355miles (2,180km)
Rate-of-Climb: 0ft/min (0m/min)
Service Ceiling: 40,354ft (12,300m; 7.6miles) Armament Suite:
STANDARD:
2 x 23mm Nudelman NR-23 cannons under nose
2 x 23mm Nudelman NR-23 cannons in tail turret

OPTIONAL:
2 x Torpedoes

Ordnance loads up to 6,614lbs. Structure:
Accommodation: 3
Hardpoints: 2
Empty Weight:26,213lbs (11,890kg)
Maximum Take-Off Weight:46,738lbs (21,200kg) Powerplant:
Engine(s): 2 x Klimov VK-1 turbojet engines delivering 5,852lbs of thrust.
Pictures of the Ilyushin IL-28 (Beagle)  View All 2 Images
More Pictures Cockpit View 3-View Compare Aircraft Conversions


Primary Function: Light bomber
Similar Aircraft Canberra, Yak-28 Brewer
Contractor: ILYUSHIN
Power Plant: two Klimov VK-1A
Thrust: 26.48 kN (5,952 lb st) each
Length: 57 ft, 11 in (17.6 m)
Height: 6.70 m
Wingspan: 70 ft, 5 in (21.5 m)
Speed: 902 km/h at 4500 m [maximum]
800 km/h at sea level
876 km/h cruising speed at optimum altitude
Ceiling: 12300 m
Weight: empty 11890 kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 21200 kg
Range: 2400 km at 10000 m
1135 km at 1000 m
Armament: Bombs, two 23-mm cannons in tail
Crew: Three
Unit Cost:
Date Deployed:
Current Users: Romania and People's Republic of China (H-5)
Former Users: Afghanistan, Egypt, Hungary, Iraq, North Korea, Poland and Yemen


Specifications #2


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The Ilyushin Il-28 was a Medium bomber designed in early 1948 for the Soviet Air Force, it was introduced into service during 1950 and was given the NATO reporting name "Beagle", it remained in active service until the 1980's with the Soviet Air Force. A total of 6,316 Ilyushin Il-28 bombers were built in the USSR and additional aircraft were produced under licence in China as the Harbin H-5, many aircraft remain in active service with ex Soviet block countries and their allies. It is of note that a training variant, the Ilyushin Il-28U, was also produced and given the NATO reporting name "Mascot".


Ilyushin Il-28 Specifications:

Crew: Pilot, Bombardier, Gunner
Length: 17.60 m (57 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 21.50 m (70 ft 6 in)
Height: 6.70 m (22 ft 0 in)
Wing area: 60.8 m² (654 ft²)
Empty weight: 11,890 kg (26,210 lb)
Loaded weight: 17,700 kg (39,000 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 21,200 kg (46,700 lb)
Engines: Twin 26.5 kN (5,955 lbf) Klimov VK-1 turbojets
Maximum speed: 900 km/h (486 kt, 560 mph)
Range: 2,180 km (1,177 nm, 1,350 miles)
Service ceiling: 12,300 m (40,400 ft)
Rate of climb: 900 m/min (2,950 ft/min)
Armament:

Four Nudelman NR-23 cannon m0unted in the nose and tail
3,000 kg (6,600 lb) of internally carried bombs

Two Klomov VK-1A engines rated at 5,952 lb each
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: Bizu on September 05, 2012, 04:39:40 AM
The only schematics that I could find :-[

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/ILYUSHIN_Il-28_BEAGLE.png)

(http://www.airvectors.net/avil28_03.png)

(http://www.airvectors.net/avil28_04.png)
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: Lisek on September 05, 2012, 04:51:49 AM
You weren't looking too hard  :P

http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/il28.html (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/il28.html)
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/il28aiv.html (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/il28aiv.html)
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: Kilo on September 05, 2012, 04:59:02 AM
Really needed. +9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999... :D
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: SAS~GJE52 on September 05, 2012, 05:09:30 AM
IIRC Flak started this one a long time ago and then passed it to Slow to complete .... then it passed away .......  ;)

or .....

http://www.the3dstudio.com/product_details.aspx?id_product=6495



 :D
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: singüe on September 05, 2012, 07:46:58 AM
Would it work in our game? If not , wath should we need to do it work?
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: BT~wasted on September 05, 2012, 08:01:36 AM
IIRC Flak started this one a long time ago and then passed it to Slow to complete .... then it passed away .......  ;)

or .....

http://www.the3dstudio.com/product_details.aspx?id_product=6495



 :D

wow, 90$ for that model? I think it is way too much because I can see some mistakes even from those shots.

If someone can import 3d into the game, I can do all the java.
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: bren on September 05, 2012, 02:16:35 PM
I found very good blueprints (http://ge.tt/6kQDMDN/v/0) of Il-28.
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: Bizu on September 05, 2012, 02:18:27 PM
Awsome blueprints!
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: bren on September 05, 2012, 02:32:19 PM
Awsome blueprints!
It's from this thread (http://www.farposst.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=42648&sid=3bc7d2418f605a908f382e45aaab3df7) on Farposst forum. There's still a lot of drawings (mostly USSR aircrafts, but not only).
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: SAS~Anto on September 06, 2012, 08:51:12 AM
Passed away indeed. I did contact Slow many months back and enquired about his previous projects. He stated he had it on the hard drive to his old PC. Unfortunately he couldn't find that hard drive. There were never any betas and Flakiten hasn't been contactable for a while.

Anyway +1 for this aircraft. Along with the English Electric Canberra, this is one of the sorely missed jet bombers that saw a host of action in many important conflicts.
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: Bizu on March 06, 2013, 01:15:46 PM
So, any news about it, is somebody willing to start this project?
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: Yak-1000bis on March 07, 2013, 05:55:57 AM
wow, this is really missing in the game and its one of the most beautiful 50's jets and one of my favourites, if there is anybody out there who can make this please do, pleasee  :)
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: SAS~Malone on March 07, 2013, 06:11:30 AM
i see you're new here.
welcome, but before we all start off on the wrong foot, please read some forum posting guides first
it's the least you can do.
start with the one at the top of this section, before even going any further:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,12475.0.html

thanks.
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: NS~mati140 on March 07, 2013, 06:24:09 AM
When I first checked the forum I noticed Beagle thread being drilled but I decided to check the Aircraft section first. When I came back I noticed post author name changed from 'Yak-1000bis' to Malone XD. My first thought: 'RIP, Yak' :D
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: SAS~Malone on March 07, 2013, 06:35:23 AM
well, i didn't kill him outright, lol... :D
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: Typhoon Ib on March 07, 2013, 08:08:11 AM
So, any news about it, is somebody willing to start this project?

No. all you can do now is wait and continue to show your interest. Hope and wait?
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: SAS~Gerax on March 07, 2013, 08:21:36 AM
Quote
all you can do now is wait

Not quite true.

He could start to learn how to make a plane mod and
in 2 weeks or so we'd have a brand new Il-28 here.

 ;)
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: Typhoon Ib on March 07, 2013, 08:50:44 AM
good one!
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: Bizu on March 07, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
I'm doing my first year of intensive computer programming and there is lots of new stuff for me and too little free time, so at least for now I can't start modding, mabye in the summer I'll start to learn the basics or even earlier.  ;)
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: kaxII on March 07, 2013, 01:01:49 PM
+1
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: SAS~Gerax on March 07, 2013, 05:32:49 PM
I'm doing my first year of intensive computer programming and there is lots of new stuff for me and too little free time, so at least for now I can't start modding, mabye in the summer I'll start to learn the basics or even earlier.  ;)

Bogdan it was a joke but also the truth a little bit.
I know its impossible to do this within 2 weeks even for professional,
but yes, there was some guys who decided to make the plane they wished
to see in IL2 on their own. Read the Aircraft section, there you will find
some examples. But it takes a lot of time to make a plane from scratch,
so be warned ..  ;D
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: S3231541 on March 07, 2013, 05:58:49 PM
I'm doing my first year of intensive computer programming and there is lots of new stuff for me and too little free time, so at least for now I can't start modding, mabye in the summer I'll start to learn the basics or even earlier.  ;)

Contact me when you do? :P
Title: Re: Il-28
Post by: Bizu on March 08, 2013, 05:58:06 AM
I'm doing my first year of intensive computer programming and there is lots of new stuff for me and too little free time, so at least for now I can't start modding, mabye in the summer I'll start to learn the basics or even earlier.  ;)

Contact me when you do? :P


Ok, Sir.