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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Jets => Topic started by: mac1 on September 26, 2012, 04:58:11 PM
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Finally polished up the old gal a bit and made some cosmetic improvements. It was my first ever mod, so its age and inexperience shows but with precious little time due to real life, its as good as shes gonna get at the minute. Enjoy!
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/FA_Donaghy/he2803.jpg)
skin shown above was by Donaghy but all the link are dead so if anyone has his three skins please post them back up!
Credits:
3D, FM and classes: Me
Cockpit: Taken from the He-219 (so thanks to all involved in that beautiful project - Benitomuso et al. )
Stock meshes: Oleg and 1c
Template and Default skin: TheFlyAttack (Cheers buddy!)
He-280 air.HE_280 1 g01 SUMMER
Download Plane: https://www.mediafire.com/?max43ltw3xja203 (https://www.mediafire.com/?max43ltw3xja203)
There are known bugs etc but live with them or fix them and post the fixes here!
4.121 Gear fix: https://www.mediafire.com/?f7as7sn9wf4791j
(https://www.mediafire.com/?f7as7sn9wf4791j)
Cheers
Mac1
Thanks to CWatson and Bombsaway for fixing the armored glass in cockpit view
To get rid of the misplaced mesh you need to go into the
3do/cockpit/He-280 folder and open the heir him file.
Near the bottom of the file you will see this entry:
[Armorglass]
Mesh Armorglass
Parent Z_Gear
Attaching
You need to change it to this:
[Armorglass]
Mesh Armorglass
hidden
Parent Z_Gear
Attaching
Note the word hidden .
Skins by Donaghy: https://www.mediafire.com/download/w1th431bv7ypc98/He-280_skins_DONAGHY.rar (https://www.mediafire.com/download/w1th431bv7ypc98/He-280_skins_DONAGHY.rar)
Thanks for the link Bwf.
here's a set of 4 skins for fictional Japanese style by Malone (see reply #70):
https://www.mediafire.com/?5qzoh56ph4t5ics
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Nice!
Let's try it.
Regards,
Pablo
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Cool Mac. Thank you. I'd be happy to fly her. :)
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meteor vs he280
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meteor vs he280
Let the games begin
Thanks Robhans for posting the skins! :)
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Thanks, very, very, nice!!
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Thank Mac1 :) .
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Mac,
not a criticism, but the stabilizer seems to be misplaced. It is like set too backwards. I can figure out that if not probable the elevator will overlap when moving.
I didn't know much about the history of this plane, only that it was one of thr firsts. I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJvOXKlx-Tc
Regards,
Pablo
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Mac,
not a criticism, but the stabilizer seems to be misplaced. It is like set too backwards. I can figure out that if not probable the elevator will overlap when moving.
I didn't know much about the history of this plane, only that it was one of thr firsts. I saw this video:
ah no problem Ill have a look later one, thanks
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:)
Excellent ride... thank's.
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Thanks Mac1
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Hello Mac1,
Thank You for beautiful aircraft.
One quick question - does she have original cockpit?
Best Regards.
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I did a ton of research into it, and so did Verhängnis I believe and I couldnt come up with a single photo so I borrowed the lovely he-219 and called it a day.
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I love this plane, it's one of my favorite jets in the game!
Two engined jet fighters/heavy fighters are my fav, and this one isn't an exception!
Thanks for giving us such a great airplane :D
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By the way if anyone has noticed the cockpit external skin is mapped onto a template i included in the mods folder but I didnt paint it as Im not a texture person. Feel free to give it a shot anyone and post it to me :) Please!
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Thank you! I will fly her right away!!!
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This thing rocks!
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Here's inof on it. Interesting is that it could have been armed with rockets for anti-ship duty which could have brought the plane out quicker.
One benefit of the He 280 which impressed the political leadership was the fact that the jet engines could burn kerosene, which requires much less expense and refining than the high-octane fuel used by piston-engine aircraft. The He 280 might have been more easily "sold" if Heinkel stressed the possibility of using it as an attack aircraft for anti-shipping. While the R4M rockets were not available until 1944, the Germans did develop the Nebelwerfer in 1941, which was a 150 mm (5.9 in) artillery rocket launcher. These tubes could have been mounted underneath the wings of a jet. German pilots complained that bombs dropped by the Me 262 had little chance of hitting their targets. A forward-firing recoilless weapon would have been much more effective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He-280
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Thanks, mac1. It flies just fine. No engine fires when you throttle up and down. I'd like to do a single mission for it at some stage. No promises though.
cheers
David Prosser
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Thanks, mac1. Its flies just fine. No engine fires when you throttle up and down. I'd like to do a single mission for it at some stage. No promises though.
cheers
David Prosser
I'd like that very much David! It's amazing when you spend so much time working on something how little time you spend actually enjoying ti
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Yes, mac1. I know exactly how that feels. I'm playing Flyboys, and a 110 campaign set on the Eastern front. I'm also planning on re-releasing a couple of old 410 campaigns in DBW 410. That will free some storage space on Mediafire. Then, there's various other campaigns to do. The recent release of the Meteor has given me some ideas for a campaign that is about 1/3 complete. It'll start with the player learning to fly the Bulldog, Hind, and PWS 24 [Avro tutor] in Cal Zimbotho, go to the East Africa campaign with Fairey battles. Then to Italy flying Hurricane IVs. Next England flying Meteors, and Finallly Korea in Meteors. As for a completion date. Let's say Christmas. I'm not sure which one though.
cheers
David Prosser
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Maybe some more skinpacks too. I wish i had time to learn to do some esp for this one.
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Maybe some more skinpacks too. I wish i had time to learn to do some esp for this one.
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Hi ModAct
thanks for a wonderful & historically significant aircraft !
bug report:
I am operating ver4.101, Modact 3.06, and I have a strange bug with the undercarriage.
I have no main wheels - but in their place I see copies of the nosewheel !
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Hi ModAct
thanks for a wonderful & historically significant aircraft !
bug report:
I am operating ver4.101, Modact 3.06, and I have a strange bug with the undercarriage.
I have no main wheels - but in their place I see copies of the nosewheel !
Yeah, I wanted to say this too. I think it is not a bug but the wheels are too small. Can somebody fix it?
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Killer, nice news.
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Not normally too big on jets but that is a pretty aircraft!
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Hi, max hope this helps. I do see a desert skin in here.
http://www.picsearch.com/index.cgi?start=25&width=1630&q=Heinkel%20He%20280%20fighter
http://www.picsearch.com/imageDetail.cgi?id=zoDwdbsJ_Wb0zziOuf8W8A5LFZKHN9ghYPU4uFSAtNc&width=1630&start=25&q=Heinkel%20He%20280%20fighter
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Hopefully, you can do some camo ones for what-if's
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Sounds great Max! Did I actually put the wrong wheels on this?!!!
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Good job mac1, thanks!
But Epervier, please, could you look at this one and make 4.09 compatible? This will do a beautiful pair with the Meteor.
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YAAY!! Max is making skins for this beauty! cant wait to see what it looks like!
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Good job mac1, thanks!
But Epervier, please, could you look at this one and make 4.09 compatible? This will do a beautiful pair with the Meteor.
can you not just used Benitomuso's new FM mod that allows for cross compatibility?
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,24777.0.html
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Sadly it's not that simple... :'( Benitomuso's mod doesn't do "4.09 magic".
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Sadly it's not that simple... :'( Benitomuso's mod doesn't do "4.09 magic".
I'll look more closely at this bird... + SSP...
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Psss...Epervier...if you're in one of yours "4.09 conversions rampages" I could send you a PM with a list of the planes created in these days that could benefit of your touch... :P
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Psss...Epervier...if you're in one of yours "4.09 conversions rampages" I could send you a PM with a list of the planes created in these days that could benefit of your touch... :P
No problemo ! :D
But... No airplanes manufactured after 1945 or before ~1935! :P
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Ok, I'll seriously do a "census" of the "non-converted ones" with those characteristics and send you in a PM. A' bientôt!
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Compatible with UP 3.0? Never appears on my aircraft list.
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Did you add the air. ini lines?
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Yes. I also did this with the Fi-103 mod. Added the air.ini lines, didn't appear. It's either something i missed (can't be that complicated copy & pasting a few words), or i'm just unlucky (as per usual).
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Which mod activator are u using?
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Doesn't work with 4.12 :(
i was crossing my fingers haha
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I use 4.12.2 MA5.30 and it works for me.
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I cofirm that
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Hi
Nice plane, I like it. Works fine in DBW 1.7 and almost in 4.12.2m+5.30+A1 because the landing gear stucks out the top of the wings and there is no front wheel either. I tried to insert an image for many times but it failed( maybe I am stupid and cant use the program)
Any thoughts what is wrong?
Cheers
Barber
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Incompatible or too old Mod Wheels ?
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Looks like a general 4.12 incompatibility, will have to go back to the classfiles and fix the gearbug
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Works perfectly for me in 4.12.2 ModAct 5.3.
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No issues with gear opening the wrong way?
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Hi
Nice plane, I like it. Works fine in DBW 1.7 and almost in 4.12.2m+5.30+A1 because the landing gear stucks out the top of the wings and there is no front wheel either. I tried to insert an image for many times but it failed( maybe I am stupid and cant use the program)
Any thoughts what is wrong?
Hi
As I told before, in 4.12++ the landing gear stucks out the top of the wings and there is no front wheel!
In DBW 1.7 it works all right.
Cheers
Barber
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I have no issues with "gear opening the wrong way" or anything else!
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I do have this issue :(
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See first post for 4.121 Fix :) let me know if it works for everyone :D
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Hi mac1
Thank you very much. Now it works as it should. I am using 4.12.2+530+A1 530.
The main wheels could be a little bit bigger, but maybe someday?? Thanks.
Cheers
Barber
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Works perfectly here !
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I've just tried it in my mod tool.
The mesh looks awesome, but when I load the script the gear is incorrect.
Maybe I have the old version, not sure. But you can see what I mean here.
The front wheel seems to be displaced as well as the front wheel bay doors
(http://stainlessbeer.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/9/6/3296541/8992316_orig.png)
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Hey stainless, I've only tested it on 4.12 actually since I fixed the landing gear. What game version are you running?
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Not actually running the game at this stage.
Just running my modtool
I'm testing every mesh I can find on it to try and make it bullet proof.
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been flying this a bit on Modact 5.3, and enjoying it. :D
no issue with the gears, as such, except that i experience the following in cockpit once gears are raised.
first pic, before gears are up:
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/il2fb2014-05-2310-17-50-68_zpsed4ecf3d.jpg)
second pic, after gears are up:
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/il2fb2014-05-2310-17-53-40_zpsf365e725.jpg)
not sure if there's maybe some him adjustment needed there - anyone else experienced this?
another question concerns the overheating - i can barely get airborne without cooking the engines, with any other than default loadout.
in fact, you can see in the screenshots HUD that the overheat is happening well below 200km/h on takeoff, in above pics i'm also barely halfway down the runway, she is very slow to gain momentum...
is there an updated FM planned for that, or is it a historically represented?
if the latter, then i have no problem.
fun in the snow ... :D
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/2802_zps50985b28.jpg)
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Hey Malone! Love the snowy skin. Never really tested the FM in 4.12, it was originally adapted from the me-262 in 4.09 way way back if I remember correctly but I'm no FM guy. Thought I'd fixed that dam cockpit bug too! :D
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i know just the guy to ask about fixing the fm... ;)
will gladly take advice on what to adjust to get rid of the cockpit bug, though -
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i mean, seriously, this thing rips through heavy bombers as if they were made out of cardboard!
blast-fest! :D
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Is she overheating in 4.12? I can fix that if you want. :)
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yes, she overheats while still picking up takeoff speed, most noticeably with any other than default loadout.
i like the way the overheating works once in flight - you can push up to about 80% throttle without overheating. it's getting airborne that's the problem.
i think just another 30 seconds or so before it starts cooking, should suffice ;)
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I'll take a look.
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i think a lot has to do with how long she takes to pick up momentum....
try, and you'll see, she just really isn't keen to start moving forward.
if i had any suggestions for the 3d, it's to slightly raise the gear so that the droptank loadout doesn't sit halfway under the ground :D
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just so it's not all complaints, a few screens, having fun cross-dressing in a HiroHeinkel outfit :D
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/hiroh1_zps8b25ed4a.jpg)
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/hiroh2_zpse65d3dd5.jpg)
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/hirohb29_zpsc40c3fa3.jpg)
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Woh! Cross dressing? Dont ask, dont tell! LOL :) Nice pics though. :)
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can you release that jap skin?
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dsawan, sure i can - i have only made it as a default pacific skin, not a normal skin, though ...
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here's a set of 4 skins for fictional Japanese style :D
https://www.mediafire.com/?5qzoh56ph4t5ics
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thx
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To get rid of the misplaced mesh you need to go into the
3do/cockpit/He-280 folder and open the heir him file.
Near the bottom of the file you will see this entry:
[Armorglass]
Mesh Armorglass
Parent Z_Gear
Attaching
You need to change it to this:
[Armorglass]
Mesh Armorglass
hidden
Parent Z_Gear
Attaching
Note the word hidden .
CW
as such, except that i experience the following in cockpit once gears are raised.
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/il2fb2014-05-2310-17-53-40_zpsf365e725.jpg)
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Well, after all the crap you and I went through today trying to get this bird fixed, I'd like to put hidden on the whole damn thing. LOL :) I almost called Jim Beam to come over tonight. :)
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Thanks for taking the time to fix this guys
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skin shown above was by Donaghy but all the link are dead so if anyone has his three skins please post them back up!
Still had these "laying" around, here's Don's 280 skins:
https://www.mediafire.com/download/w1th431bv7ypc98/He-280_skins_DONAGHY.rar
maybe someone could move the link to the 1st post
Regards,
Bwf.
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How about this for a He 280 skin? Really good.
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234955345-172-heinkel-he-280-from-rs-models/
Are there any plans to give this bird heavier armament of perhaps even for a He-280A or B version?
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Not really sure as to how many out there ever fly this wonderful bird, just kind of wondering if some skilled individual could finish this ol' girl up. She really needs a completed cockpit for the external view and proper sized main landing gear.....P.S. If you haven't flown her, you just might give her a try...LOT'S OF FUN!!...P.S.S....she also has a kind or interesting history...(lots of politics involved).
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Great to hear you want to make this skin, Max. Excellent.
Personally I like fictional backgrounds for scenarios or campaigns. With heavier armament and more power this would have been an interesting German answer to the Allied bomber offensive of 1943-44. Wouldn't have changed much, I know, but would be fun to fly with.
So yes, please better cockpit, better landing gear, better armament and more power. That would be grand.
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How about this for a He 280 skin? Really good.
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234955345-172-heinkel-he-280-from-rs-models/
Are there any plans to give this bird heavier armament of perhaps even for a He-280A or B version?
That is a nice paint-scheme. I will do one for our game .
Yes, I have already begun doing a nice skin-template for some skins for this classic jet.
It is now looking very nice.
What we really need now is some better wheels on this airplane.
Everything else looks great now on this new 3D-model.
Any progress yet, Max?
I'm thinking about making a what-if campaign for this plane. What if it had been ready to counter the Allied bomber offensive of 1943-1944? But I would need heavier armament then, because the present armament is not sufficient against heavy bombers. And more power to really make a difference. Is anybody willling to adjust that? Or can it even be done?