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Title: Some missing Vietnam War Weapons
Post by: Batbomb on October 18, 2013, 06:13:01 AM

I noticed that some important weapons (mainly missiles) from the Vietnam-War-Era are either missing or should be revised.




AGM-62 Walleye

(http://www.voodoo-world.cz/hornet/u/agm62.jpg)

A television guided bomb.

Warhead: 825 Ib

Weight: 1,100 Ibs

Range: 16 miles

The Walleye was actually no rocket, but a bomb.
The pilot had to lock on to the target. After that the weapon worked autonomously.

Blueprint

(http://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/3647/agm-62_walleye_3d_model_deea774b-c8fc-483e-aab2-396fcae7c64c.png)







Paveway

(http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/bill_spidle2/gbu-1/images/gbu-1_4_of_9.jpg)


Paveways where laser guided bombs.
The Vietnam war version was based on a Mk 84, M117 or MK 82. They where used since 1968.

Weight: 650 Ib

Blueprint

(http://de.valka.cz/attachments/121/GBU-12_Paveway_I.jpg)



AIM-4 Falcon

(http://www.f-106deltadart.com/weapons/hughes_aim4-4.jpg)

The first operational Air to Air Missile of the USAF. It is also known as the worst missile of the Vietnam war


Lengh: 6 ft 6 in

Diameter: 6.4 in

Warhead: 7.5 Ib

Propellant: Solid Fuel

Speed: Mach 3

Guidance: Semi active radar homing and rear aspect infrared homing

range: 6 miles



Blueprint:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/AIM-4A_and_AIM-4G_missile_line_drawings.jpg/300px-AIM-4A_and_AIM-4G_missile_line_drawings.jpg)






AGM-45 Shrike

(http://historywarsweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/image/AGM-45_Shrike.JPG)

The Shrike is an anti-radar missile. It was used for wild weasel operations.

lengh: 10 ft

diameter: 8 in

Weight: 390 Ib

Speed: Mach 2

Range: 11-17 km

Guidance System: Passive Radar Homing

Blueprint

(http://www.aviacionargentina.net/foros/attachment.php?attachmentid=12206&d=1379261528)





AIM-7 Sparrow:

I think the AIM-7 fm should be revised. It is far too uber. In Vietnam the AIM-7's performance was regarded as bad.
the kill propability of the AIM-7 was less than 10 percent. It was also victim of constant technological failure.






Further reads:


http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/agm-62.htm

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=991

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app5/paveway-1.html

http://de.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/31120

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-45_Shrike

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-45.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-7_Sparrow

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/aim-7.htm

Title: Re: Some missing Vietnam War Weapons
Post by: barrett_g on October 18, 2013, 12:00:42 PM

Didn't they call the Aim-7 Sparrow the "great white hope?"  I heard some where that it got that nickname because you just "hoped" it would work.... And pilots eventually started rippling off a couple of them... Hoping at least one would actually track and hit.

Title: Re: Some missing Vietnam War Weapons
Post by: VF111Sundowner on October 18, 2013, 02:01:14 PM

Quote from: barrett_g on October 18, 2013, 12:00:42 PM

Didn't they call the Aim-7 Sparrow the "great white hope?"  I heard some where that it got that nickname because you just "hoped" it would work.... And pilots eventually started rippling off a couple of them... Hoping at least one would actually track and hit.

True story, many accounts tell of pilots ripple firing AIM-7s, the missile its self had like a 30% kill ratio on the best of days.
In addition some of the pilots say that the early version has an extremely visible smoke trail and that alone would scare the early MiGs They didn't have radar warning or wasn't effective in the MiG-17, and 19s

So they saw the smoke trails and broke formation to avoid the missiles whether they were actually the target or not. allowing the F-4 to seperate them and pick them off with the slightly more reliable AIM-9s

When the MiG-21 came out things changed a bit.

Title: Re: Some missing Vietnam War Weapons
Post by: mojojojo on October 18, 2013, 02:08:19 PM

it's true. the AIM-7 is almost guaranteed to hit in IL-2. The only missile that is realistically unreliable is the AIM-9B, which misses some of the time.