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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Other Mods => WIP => Topic started by: damawo on December 28, 2013, 12:46:23 PM

Title: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on December 28, 2013, 12:46:23 PM
Hi, I post this issue because I passed the milestone importing based 3D model in Il-2 system.
Now I learn how to work the ships and what I should do for importing her in Il-2.
To tell the truth, The D4Y2 I released before is for her fer.

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/d996/zwjcro67m2683fcfg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/7937/piku4hmi3knv4sgfg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/e275/fa6lrl7jur45w2xfg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/08a4/hek1xiz10clr0ddfg.jpg)

I put early version of Ise[2014/07/28] for expert.
This file contains very simplified readme.
From previous version [14/03/08], description of ship.ini was changed.
Pls. overwrite lines of ships_ini_gun and ships_ini_ship.
https://www.mediafire.com/?hdyvdok8obnhiy4 (https://www.mediafire.com/?hdyvdok8obnhiy4)

This mod needs High resolution Mod.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=33239.0 (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=33239.0)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on December 28, 2013, 01:07:53 PM
VERY nice. I am really looking forward to it. Great work. :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: GerritJ9 on December 28, 2013, 03:45:14 PM
Wow, the carrier-battleships "Ise" and "Hyuga"...... there are a few vids of their wrecks on Youtube. They were both sunk in shallow water off Kure in 1945, the wrecks were scrapped post-war.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=670WR7NgKpw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5znKeTCI28w
www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3g2qxBDSsw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywEnuZ8u4no
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: Batbomb on December 28, 2013, 04:18:23 PM
Wow! The IJN had some really big ships... O.o
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on December 28, 2013, 07:21:06 PM
Looks very good so far, it will be a very nice addition to AG-51's target list.....lol

Would love to see you do some of the really sleek and beautiful IJN Cruisers, the only one we have in game in the Kuma, it's old and under gunned, there were some very nice Seaplane cruisers too....

can't wait to load this new one into game

Cheers

Hoss
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 28, 2013, 11:00:21 PM
awesome! i also second Hoss' suggestion, for more cruisers - this, however, looks really great, and we will be happy to see her on the IL2 seas! :D
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: max_thehitman on December 29, 2013, 12:16:59 PM


You have created a very beautiful model!
Thank you Damawo


Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: GerritJ9 on December 29, 2013, 01:11:37 PM
To compensate for the weight loss caused by the removal of the two aft turrets a thick layer of cement was poured on the flight deck, which of course also increased horizontal protection. In one of the vids you can see chunks of grey cement on what was left of the flight deck. The cement does not seem to have any reinforcing though.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: asheshouse on December 29, 2013, 02:46:35 PM
Very nice model.
I will look forward to when it is completed.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: ggrewe on December 30, 2013, 03:15:44 PM
Wow damawo - that looks very impressive & a great addition - good luck.
Hopefully you can get ten010's amazing catapult mod included - that would be really fun  ;)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: TeamFlyingAce162 on December 31, 2013, 10:52:36 PM
Always open to more IJN ships.

My only question is: Are you planning to do the carrier-battleship only? Or are you going to do a no-flightdeck version?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: saldy on January 14, 2014, 03:52:57 AM
Thanks for the great project. Perhaps soon appear in a new patch or hsfx. We have for Pacific only CL Kuma and BB Yamato, there is no classic BB or CA.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: asheshouse on January 14, 2014, 07:32:51 AM
Saldy -- Look in the ships section and you will find Nagato BB, Kongo BB.

Kongo Class  https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,17300.0.html

Nagato Class https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28654.0.html

IJN Destroyers https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,19115.0.html
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: damawo on January 17, 2014, 10:44:02 PM
Hi all.
Thanks for cheering.

Today, I post the testshot of 128mmX28 rocket launcher.
The smoke effect of RL X 3 in one side dropped FPS slightly.
I can't image the result when I add all AA Guns!

And I'm encountering problems that not spawn-able flight deck and non-dropping shadow on it.
(I could manage to land on)
I need more time to solve it.

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/01d5/m1thbin9lpbpqhrfg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/d566/yc5b7ks56z5djbqfg.jpg)

Always open to more IJN ships.

My only question is: Are you planning to do the carrier-battleship only? Or are you going to do a no-flightdeck version?

I don't have plan for other version now.
One biggest reason why I make Ise in this period is My grandfather was crew of her from s18-remodeling to the end of Ise at Kure-port.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: Batbomb on January 18, 2014, 03:27:02 AM
Wow interesting. I wasn't aware off such rocked launchers on ships.

Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: saldy on January 21, 2014, 04:41:49 AM
It was possible also land here? I think that Suisei started with the help of a catapult, then had to go back only to the mainland.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: Batbomb on January 21, 2014, 09:32:37 AM
Um... It looks rather suicidal but I think yes. I believe there where strings on the deck just like an aircraft carrier...
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: asheshouse on January 21, 2014, 10:06:59 AM
Wow interesting. I wasn't aware off such rocked launchers on ships.

The Royal Navy also used rockets for AAA, a 20 rocket mount.
Details here: http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_UP.htm

Apparently spectacular but ineffective. They were all replaced at the earliest opportunity.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: damawo on January 23, 2014, 02:01:03 AM
It was possible also land here? I think that Suisei started with the help of a catapult, then had to go back only to the mainland.

Yes, pilot couldn't land on Ise/Heiuga's(Hyuga) flight deck, they had to land on other carrier or land base.

Wow interesting. I wasn't aware off such rocked launchers on ships.

The Royal Navy also used rockets for AAA, a 20 rocket mount.
Details here: http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_UP.htm

Apparently spectacular but ineffective. They were all replaced at the earliest opportunity.


Wow interesting. I wasn't aware off such rocked launchers on ships.

The Royal Navy also used rockets for AAA, a 20 rocket mount.
Details here: http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_UP.htm

Apparently spectacular but ineffective. They were all replaced at the earliest opportunity.

This rocket has instability of burning, and this makes it impossible to expect direct hit.
And rocket generate a large amount of smoke.
This smoke effectively?block the bomber and torpedo bomber entering bombardment course. 

Ofcourse gunnery on the tail of flight deck lost eyesight when launching rockets!


Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: damawo on January 26, 2014, 01:44:25 AM
Some shots from test for gunnery's behavior.
This ship's AAA power is awesome.
She will give us good protection!

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/9186/l3icl5cd1ttcc6mfg.jpg)

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/79a8/87wef6v0iyapnrcfg.jpg)

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/06b7/8rn7a359v7z6huwfg.jpg)
 
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: archie1971 on January 26, 2014, 06:35:29 AM
magnificent ship, I am looking forward to be released
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: GerritJ9 on January 26, 2014, 10:12:23 AM
Yummy..........
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: cgagan on January 26, 2014, 10:46:08 AM
She truly is magnificent... 8)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1945"
Post by: SAS~Gerax on January 26, 2014, 08:10:58 PM
magnificent ship

+1000!  :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: wplusaf on January 31, 2014, 10:01:42 PM
Looking forward to it's release~
Magnificent work and another violent IJN battleship in IL2
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on March 20, 2014, 12:39:51 PM
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/243c/fkc8ahb8uic518vfg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/0f93/zv4b8c2co4gy636fg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/180f/8wi5s521iuskaerfg.jpg)

I upload early version of Ise for test.
Please check first post.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: SAS~Gerax on March 20, 2014, 06:03:17 PM
Wow, great news, many thanks damawo!
Downloading now .. installing ...
works like a charm. I like especially the rockets!  :)
And yes, it has a massive firepower..  :o
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: baronbutcher on March 20, 2014, 09:06:14 PM
Beautiful work, lovely ship well done! Thank you
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: 101tfs on March 21, 2014, 05:05:59 AM
we need an E16A1 now :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Yeager_1946 on March 21, 2014, 02:10:58 PM

Excellent! Thank you very much for this beautiful ship, Damawo!  :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: PlaneEater on March 21, 2014, 02:33:00 PM
Is there anything specifically that would prevent this from working in 4.10.1 / DBW?  I know the amidships turrets would have restricted fields of fire, but anything else?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: The Radge on March 22, 2014, 02:26:00 AM
Hello Damawo! Cool ship you have made, thanks for this! :)
I've made some testing today... Mates, if you want to use this beautiful ship as a aircraft carrier to take off from her, with SAS Engine mod (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=37774.0), you can do that adding the following lines to your Catapults.ini (...com/maddox/il2/objects/Catapults.ini) ;) :) Sure you'd like it 8)

Code: [Select]
[IJNIseBB]
dCatapultOffsetX 2.0
dCatapultOffsetY 4.0
dCatapultYaw 7.9
catapultPower 20
bSteamCatapult 1

(tested with D4Y2, 100% fuel and 500 kg bomb; Ise's speed 5 km/h)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: deSAD on March 22, 2014, 02:13:25 PM
... Mates, if you want to use this beautiful ship as a aircraft carrier to take off from her, with SAS Engine mod (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=37774.0), you can do that adding the following lines to your Catapults.ini
Cool 8) Thx for the hint ;D

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kwkdyK-Qgk4/Uy3tV7S7YMI/AAAAAAAAFxM/RMjY0C2JEW4/s1024/Ice_Meteor.png)

@damawo
Thank you for your work! This is indeed a very unusual ship :o But why are turned catapults?..

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CkG6fOulhIs/Uy3tYTogVoI/AAAAAAAAFxM/HhGEDs2718o/s1024/Ice_Catapults.png)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Griffon_301 on March 22, 2014, 03:51:03 PM
great ship!
thank you very much for that one :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on March 23, 2014, 05:07:20 AM
Hello Damawo! Cool ship you have made, thanks for this! :)
I've made some testing today... Mates, if you want to use this beautiful ship as a aircraft carrier to take off from her, with SAS Engine mod (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=37774.0), you can do that adding the following lines to your Catapults.ini (...com/maddox/il2/objects/Catapults.ini) ;) :) Sure you'd like it 8)
(tested with D4Y2, 100% fuel and 500 kg bomb; Ise's speed 5 km/h)

Thanks The Radge.
I will divide the slot of Ise for normal situation and firing situation.

Is there anything specifically that would prevent this from working in 4.10.1 / DBW?  I know the amidships turrets would have restricted fields of fire, but anything else?

 I checked that this mod works in 4.101+mod environment.
But not yet checked for DBW.


@damawo
Thank you for your work! This is indeed a very unusual ship :o But why are turned catapults?..

Ise's catapults was directed to aft to open the field of fire for #3-4 turret when  battle of cape Engano.
My model expresses this situation.
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/d4f1/0iplmnup7xla4rufg.jpg)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: PlaneEater on March 23, 2014, 11:20:36 AM
I can confirm that it works in DBW, although it doesn't really function as a carrier (planes spawn properly but can't launch or land).
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: max_thehitman on March 23, 2014, 11:22:16 AM

WOW!  8) What a magnificent ship and a super nice model for the IL2+mods!
It looks beautiful!
Thank you so much Damawo, I must install it and give a closer look at it.

Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: deSAD on March 24, 2014, 03:15:42 AM
Ise's catapults was directed to aft to open the field of fire for #3-4 turret when  battle of cape Engano.
My model expresses this situation.
It is understood. But, it may be wise to turn the catapult along the boards, at least for the version that you called 'firing situation'. Then start from catapults will look more natural, do not you think?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on March 26, 2014, 01:31:35 PM
It is understood. But, it may be wise to turn the catapult along the boards, at least for the version that you called 'firing situation'. Then start from catapults will look more natural, do not you think?

Hmm? I think what you want is normal version that catapults directed to forward.
The version I release now is firing situation.

I added spot-able function for observer's eye of F2 key and test for plane Deck.
I didn't intend launching function in this time.

Please wait progress of my works!

Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: panzerkeil on March 26, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
The Japanese navy had the most sexy ships of all in ww2. Thank you very much for this playmate Damawo! She is a beauty  :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: deSAD on March 26, 2014, 02:15:03 PM
It is understood. But, it may be wise to turn the catapult along the boards, at least for the version that you called 'firing situation'. Then start from catapults will look more natural, do not you think?
Hmm? I think what you want is normal version that catapults directed to forward.
The version I release now is firing situation.
Oh, of course! I just made a mistake, sorry :-\

Please wait progress of my works!
Waiting ... impatiently ;)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: BP_dFrog on March 27, 2014, 12:50:59 AM
And what if idea - Can catapult be alligned to main guns ? I.e. directed to forward and turn to the side when main guns start to move ? Could it be done ?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on March 30, 2014, 10:12:47 AM
And what if idea - Can catapult be alligned to main guns ? I.e. directed to forward and turn to the side when main guns start to move ? Could it be done ?

Hi BP_dFrog.
I also thought about editing java file.
We will be able to add the turning catapult function.
 (It will be same as aft canopy's turning function of D4Y2.)
But it would need mod of catapult mod if I use catapult function.
The decision about java code will be done at the final stage of Ise's mod. 


Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: wplusaf on March 31, 2014, 03:47:06 AM
How do you get the plane take off from the deck? The plane spawns on the deck facing forward and I don't think you could take off when you are facing that direction.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: The Radge on April 01, 2014, 11:21:12 AM
How do you get the plane take off from the deck? The plane spawns on the deck facing forward and I don't think you could take off when you are facing that direction.
Do you have this (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=37774.0) installed?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: wplusaf on April 01, 2014, 07:26:03 PM
How do you get the plane take off from the deck? The plane spawns on the deck facing forward and I don't think you could take off when you are facing that direction.
Do you have this (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=37774.0) installed?
I'm using 2.6 on my 4.10+DBW1.71
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on April 19, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
A little progress at this time.
The issue about shadow on the flight deck was solved.
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8de3/n5l5yk700ceyojjfg.jpg)

This problem was caused by position of shadow receiver's local center.
I think the center need to be near vertexes of receiver's mesh like left image.

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/76d1/mqg4t3eczkid302fg.jpg)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: asheshouse on April 19, 2014, 10:30:18 AM
ShwRcv*.msh needs to be slightly higher than the Lod0 for the deck otherwise the shadow will be hidden by the deck surface. ShwRcv*.msh must be a single plane. If a curved surface, like end of flight deck on HMS Eagle, then the shadow mesh must be split into separate planes for each part of the curve.
Pivot axes for the shadow mesh must be aligned normal to the surface, not aligned to the world.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: The Radge on April 20, 2014, 11:56:09 PM
Hello all! I've made some research and found out (according to wiki) that speed of the Ise lineship should be quite different from current values. If you agree with me, here are my search results (to replace in ships.ini):

Code: [Select]
Speed          29.632 //47.4

Have a nice flights, have a nice fights ;D
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on April 21, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
Thanks asheshouse!
Pivot axes for the shadow mesh must be aligned normal to the surface, not aligned to the world.
This line was important for me!
I finally understand this.

Hello all! I've made some research and found out (according to wiki) that speed of the Ise lineship should be quite different from current values. If you agree with me, here are my search results (to replace in ships.ini):

Code: [Select]
Speed          29.632 //47.4

Have a nice flights, have a nice fights ;D
Hello all! I've made some research and found out (according to wiki) that speed of the Ise lineship should be quite different from current values. If you agree with me, here are my search results (to replace in ships.ini):

Have a nice flights, have a nice fights ;D
Hi The Radge.
I don't know what value I should apply in this line. max, cruise or other speed?
So I'd better apply appropriate value at ship.ini and adjust true speed in FMB.
 
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: The Radge on April 21, 2014, 11:30:45 AM
Yes, I just meant replacing the existing line :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on April 27, 2014, 12:45:00 PM
A movie of Ise when the battle of Leyte Gulf.
http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/movie.cgi?das_id=D0001300360_00000 (http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/movie.cgi?das_id=D0001300360_00000)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/e324/lupx4f1ahlszvnefg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/61f9/0fjfuaau7clcaz5fg.jpg)

You can see her at 00:38 and 03:00.
Especially at 03:00, you can see her firing main gun under air attack.
The flight deck was almost hidden for secret.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: The Radge on April 27, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Very interesting, thank you! :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on May 16, 2014, 12:58:59 PM
WIP of E16A.

we need an E16A1 now :)

Yes, This is necessary plane for Ise class.
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/d491/i1kr6i11za6ypxffg.jpg)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: The Radge on May 16, 2014, 01:13:06 PM
Ohhhhhh you're making this beauty???
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on May 22, 2014, 03:58:14 PM
New shot!
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/3753/7d0de7iu29d8h7afg.jpg)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: 101tfs on May 22, 2014, 04:00:52 PM
Edit by SAS~Bombsaway. Please dont quote pics right below the original pic.  8)
Great!
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: The Radge on May 22, 2014, 04:25:32 PM
Woow!!! Zuiun looks very cool, thank you! :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: max_thehitman on May 22, 2014, 05:08:43 PM


Super damawo !  8) It looks fantastic!
Beautiful airplane

Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on June 21, 2014, 04:04:38 AM
Some screenshot today.
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/09e5/vv21dv1mo918udtfg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/cbf6/o1wwtp511oyly7cfg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/ddba/76z36d4c4pya1fofg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/cbde/7v19u6f4km0p0v8fg.jpg)

LoD0 model has been almost imported.
I'm working for weapon set and FM now.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: cgagan on June 21, 2014, 04:21:10 AM
Great looking plane!!!! 8)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: trent on June 22, 2014, 09:42:08 AM

The plane is looking beautiful, Damawo!  :)

Looking forward to flying her from the Battleship Ise!  ;D
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on January 25, 2015, 12:30:51 PM
note.

When we want to use light map in IL-2, we should care about area of polygon.
Large area polygon could not catch light. 
(I don't  know why. I haven't read class for light map yet. or hard coded? )
For example, there was need to split the flight deck.


[pic1]...pink boxes are position of hook for light source.
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/769d/dm816izb643yvqnzg.jpg)
[pic2]...emitter are ignored
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/c460/28k12w4ay7s4fb0zg.jpg)
[pic3]...catching light
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/520d/vpnpzomqe9mawvhzg.jpg)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: oldschoolie on January 25, 2015, 12:54:00 PM
Really looking forward to this. Great work.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on January 26, 2015, 09:21:46 AM
That's amazing!!!!! I cant wait to land on that lighted carrier. :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Joberg on January 26, 2015, 10:30:44 AM
Wow the ships and aircraft in this thread look incredible!
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Mopat on February 01, 2015, 03:29:40 AM
Incredible work, damawo!!!
We have nearly all the IJN battleship classes. Such as Kongo, Ise, Nagato, Yamato(great,even when some of WIP or early config...)only Fuso class missing-the swimming palace ;D
Great Zuiun dive bomber. I always thinking, that where are dive brakes in the E16A? In the wings? Or in the undercarriage structure?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on February 01, 2015, 10:49:52 AM
Hi Mopat.
E16A's dive brake is attached in the forward strut of the floats.
The brake is retracted to the both side like the image.
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/1187/pmib47el00wkp9szg.jpg)

Recently I'm looking for information about the bomb mount rack in the under fuselage.
Is it  swing rod type like as Type99 bomber Val, implanted type like as mount of N1k2-ja's wing or other type?
Maybe I should go library of the National Institute for Defense Studies in japan to search the official text by Aichi Aircraft Company.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Yeager_1946 on February 04, 2015, 04:16:24 AM

Excellent work, Damawo! The E16A looks amazing! :)

Recently I'm looking for information about the bomb mount rack in the under fuselage.
Is it  swing rod type like as Type99 bomber Val, implanted type like as mount of N1k2-ja's wing or other type?

The E16A's use as a dive bomber would suggest that it might have had a swing rod type of arrangement such as used on the Val, in order for the 250kg bomb to clear the prop in a steep dive.

The use of dive brakes in a steep dive would further increase the need for such a swing rod, but that's just my thinking. It would be good to find out for sure.


Maybe I should go library of the National Institute for Defense Studies in japan to search the official text by Aichi Aircraft Company.

I think this might be a good idea.


Although not the clearest, the photos below seem to suggest that the E16A might possibly have had a swing rod type of arrangement.

(http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/yeager007/E16A_Zuiun%201_zpsjzzqsoo2.jpg)

(http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/yeager007/E16A_Zuiun%202_zpsqgtczrqe.jpg)

(http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/yeager007/E16A_Zuiun%203_zpsmbo8xii3.jpg)

(http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/yeager007/E16A_Zuiun%204_zpskvvuoer5.jpg)

(http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/yeager007/E16A_Zuiun%205_zpsz9bzvyzt.jpg)

(http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/yeager007/E16A_Zuiun%206_zpsydzwpuvi.jpg)



Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: RealDarko on February 04, 2015, 02:10:23 PM
Damawo one question, the seaplanes took off from the aft deck launched by catapult and then recovered by a crane?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on February 05, 2015, 08:59:10 PM
Hi Yeager_1946 Thanks for these images.
I replay japanese news again and again.
http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/movie.cgi?das_id=D0001300371_00000&seg_number=005 (http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/movie.cgi?das_id=D0001300371_00000&seg_number=005)
From one scene of the movie, it seems like a beam was attached at the side of oil cooler.
So I think E16A's rod is consisting of 4 beam like as Val Type22.(are (a) shadow of attached point?)
However I can't conclude from this not-clear movie.
I seek more high resolution and clear one.
 
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/133a/80ucncxg280b34xzg.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/7a39/bg9krrw2v08ve69zg.jpg)

Damawo one question, the seaplanes took off from the aft deck launched by catapult and then recovered by a crane?
Hi RealDarko.
The catapult will work by SAS engine mod without special technical addition.
However, Ise-Mod doesn't have crane recovery function now and I don't have no idea to implement it.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: RealDarko on February 06, 2015, 01:24:57 AM
Hi RealDarko.
The catapult will work by SAS engine mod without special technical addition.
However, Ise-Mod doesn't have crane recovery function now and I don't have no idea to implement it.

Catapult only will be ok, after all we can land near the ship and pretend we will be hoisted back. Great mod, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: western0221 on February 06, 2015, 01:48:19 AM
Damawo one question, the seaplanes took off from the aft deck launched by catapult and then recovered by a crane?
Hi RealDarko.
The catapult will work by SAS engine mod without special technical addition.

Catapults on Battleship/Cruiser with Seaplanes are troublesome.

Last month I asked ten010 how to make it, he replied me "impossible for Seaplanes".
Non-Seaplane (carrier based planes, etc.) are OK by today's SAS Engine MOD's catapult function, so D4Y2 has no problem about catapult operations on Ise.

When we set a Seaplane on the catapult, 2 serious problems exist.
 1 - Seaplanes sit on the deck, they break thier floats like crashing.
 2 - Seaplanes don't have undercarriage wheels and given too much friction, hard to be acceralated by catapults.
I think E16A also has these problems.
To solve the problems, ten010 used a "trick" for his Seaplane.
He made it with a Non-Seaplane Java classfile and added hidden wheels Hooks.
But with this technique, AI decides "This airplane has wheels, want to return a ground airbase.".

I think that to solve it smartly, we have to evolve SAS Engine MOD (around Gears) more to enable Catapult workings / not destroyed Seaplanes' floats on decks. But now I don't have a paticular idea to change its codes.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Griffon_301 on February 06, 2015, 04:12:30 AM
why do the Vought and the Grumman Duck then work on the USS MIssouri BBs?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Hubberranz on February 06, 2015, 08:25:12 AM
A lot works on Missouri (DBW engine 2.6 :P): A6M2N works, but A6M2N xplod on I400. I guess spawning is different height.
( Has catapult to be solid ?=collision ). Why not top portion of catapults visuals not solid.

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/29a9/y1g7x6kuyxdb1vg7g.jpg) (https://www.mediafire.com/view/?y1g7x6kuyxdb1vg)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: MR_G on February 08, 2015, 04:10:33 PM
Help!.......
Ise "works" in my 4.12 5.30, except the flight deck is pink...

Very strange.

Any ideas????
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: kingsley on February 08, 2015, 04:24:39 PM
Help!.......
Ise "works" in my 4.12 5.30, except the flight deck is pink...

Very strange.

Any ideas????
Do you have youre hd mod on
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: steven197106 on February 08, 2015, 04:45:45 PM
Do you have a pink deck in object viewer or in game, I have this in my game pink deck in object viewer but works fine in game.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: MR_G on February 08, 2015, 05:05:46 PM
Both. After I entered the Ise, I added the text to make show up in the object viewer.
Started the game, checked the object viewer (pink flight deck), went to FMB, and saw pink flight deck again. I'm going to try a few things (like adding // to the ship.ini, so that it doesn't show in the object viewer.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: steven197106 on February 08, 2015, 05:08:43 PM
make a mission and play it ,then see if you have the same.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: MR_G on February 08, 2015, 05:38:20 PM
Making a mission seems to have fixed the problem.....I've never had that before.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: MR_G on February 08, 2015, 05:40:36 PM
Quote
Do you have youre hd mod on

Yes I did, but building a mission "fixed" the problem
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Ta183Huckebein on February 09, 2015, 09:46:10 AM
Yeah, the Ise has a bug there (in the object viewer), but it works perfectly otherwise.

Loving it!

I have not tried the catapult lines yet, but I'm gonna test that out.....

Ta183Huckebein
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Mopat on February 09, 2015, 11:03:42 AM
Beautiful Zuiun image with open dive brakes!
Also rare historical photos!
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on February 10, 2015, 07:31:18 AM
Hi all!
The pink deck is a object for shadow receiver.
For killing the pink deck.
Try adding "hidden" line to [ShdRcv0] section in "ise/3do/ships/ise/hier.him"
 (https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/c372/rymesu9p2tqxiw6zg.jpg)

When flying, the shadow receiver is hidden forcibly by system.
But its wouldn't work when viewing in FMB.

Hubberranz < Yeah. I will try to solve.
western0221< Really? Then I'm overly optimistic.  I'll have to do some java works.

Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Rayhan on July 01, 2015, 05:02:24 AM
I can't they show a  blank ship image  what I can do?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: SAS~Gerax on July 01, 2015, 08:56:21 AM
what I can do?

give us more infos.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Rayhan on July 01, 2015, 05:21:40 PM
They not Working and They not showed up
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: western0221 on July 01, 2015, 08:40:36 PM
They not Working and They not showed up

- error log
- your PC specs
- what MODs you installed in which version and environment
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on July 01, 2015, 09:12:58 PM
check Ise's readme one more time.
All you should do is written in it.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: KingTiger503 on July 01, 2015, 11:39:42 PM
Try HR Texture and SAS Engine mod, It Might works
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Rayhan on July 02, 2015, 01:12:53 AM
Overwrite? What mean this     :(
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on July 02, 2015, 11:47:32 PM
Overwrite? What mean this     :(

>If you have already added my ISE, overwrite the lines of ship.ini.
This line?
You can ignore it.  This line is for old version user.

As others says, please describe detail.
We can't say anything without hint.
What is your mod environment(il-2 version?  SAS Modact? High Resolution / True Color Textures Mod? etc...)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: KingTiger503 on July 03, 2015, 12:01:50 AM
I have a Ise Working, Its Fast Perfect anti-air Rocket Fire.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Rayhan on July 06, 2015, 06:04:31 PM
This is my enviroment:SAS modact 5.3 with High resolution texture DLL and true color textures
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: asheshouse on July 07, 2015, 01:34:55 AM
Rayan -- You need to post the contents of your logfile.
This will probably tell us what is wrong.
See here about how to activate the logfile   https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13457.0.html

Most common cause of ship not appearing is an error in your ships.ini file.
Maybe you have not added the text entries correctly?
Your logfile may help to identify the problem.

Ashe
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Rayhan on July 07, 2015, 10:14:55 PM
Sorry I can't Post the error but you can download the files in my link this link:http://www.4shared.com/office/RNbRqiZUce/The_Error.html because my computer was slow sorry  :-\

There a error log file
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on July 08, 2015, 01:42:57 AM
Then there is no problem in your il-2 environment except for hardware issue.

hmm...4shared needs sign up or SNS account for download?
please re-upload to other loader like https://www.mediafire.com that doesn't need sign-in.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Rayhan on July 08, 2015, 06:15:45 AM
OK the mediafire link:https://www.mediafire.com/?r471q9i81c2eovr
This is alternative link mediafire
And I waiting the error I can try to solve this what happens  :-X  :-\
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on July 08, 2015, 07:22:36 AM
Thx.
>[3:29:19 AM]   WARNING: object '3do/Ships/Ise/flightdeck.tga' of class 'TTexture2D' not loaded
>[3:29:19 AM]   INTERNAL ERROR: Texture required
>[3:29:19 AM]   WARNING: object '3do/Ships/Ise/flightdeck.mat' of class 'TMaterial' not loaded
>[3:29:19 AM]   INTERNAL ERROR: Material: Can't load 'flightdeck.mat'
>[3:29:19 AM]   java.lang.RuntimeException: INTERNAL ERROR: Material: Can't load 'flightdeck.mat'

This part tell us what is wrong.
flightdeck.tga couldn't be loaded.
Please check flightdeck.tga exists or not in Ise/3do/Ships/Ise folder.
If there is flightdeck.tga, file will be broken.
Anyway you have to re-download Ise in both case.

Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: western0221 on July 08, 2015, 11:31:47 AM
When HD texture mod isn't working, similar error comes.


Some PC environments (using not Intel CPU) may make strange behavior of HD texture mod --- enabling aircrafts HD textures, but not for others / ships , maps.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: western0221 on July 08, 2015, 10:38:39 PM
I'm still confused?
Its can't work can you help me?
What you install high resolution mod? What version you installed?
My ise ship still not work   :\'(  :-[  ???

I and damawo have shown you the checkpoints you have to look at.
texture files are correctly extracted and set in the folder? HD mod is working?
You don't feed back us about them, which checkpoint is OK another is OK.... we have no information about your game.
So, we cannot advise you any more without your feed backs.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Rayhan on July 08, 2015, 11:00:00 PM
I'm still confused?
Its can't work can you help me?
What you install high resolution mod? What version you installed?
My ise ship still not work   :\'(  :-[  ???

I and damawo have shown you the checkpoints you have to look at.
texture files are correctly extracted and set in the folder? HD mod is working?
You don't feed back us about them, which checkpoint is OK another is OK.... we have no information about your game.
So, we cannot advise you any more without your feed backs.


I know but its not work because the HD not installed yet maybe sorry and my games version is 4.12.2+modact 5.3 with HD. this is work for 4.12.2?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on July 09, 2015, 04:07:03 AM
I know but its not work because the HD not installed yet maybe sorry and my games version is 4.12.2+modact 5.3 with HD. this is work for 4.12.2?

My Ise works in 4.12.2+modact 5.3 with High Resolution / True Color Textures Mod v1.0 = (HD mod).
We want make one point clear, does your HD Texture DLLs works correctly?
You say "the HD not installed yet" and "my games version is 4.12.2+modact 5.3 with HD".
Which is true?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Rayhan on July 09, 2015, 04:10:05 AM
Yes it work correctly and I installed them
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on July 09, 2015, 05:05:47 AM
Yes it work correctly and I installed them
Next question, can you use other ship mod that use HD texture?
If not, try this file.
https://www.mediafire.com/download/o984ucsid5jior5/Ise.rar  (https://www.mediafire.com/download/o984ucsid5jior5/Ise.rar)

This file include Ise that textures are changed to under 1kx1k.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Rayhan on July 14, 2015, 08:11:36 AM
Thanks its solved thanks you I'm ready for battle of pearl harbor.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: KingTiger503 on July 14, 2015, 11:34:43 PM
That ship is hybrid battleship, fast hybrid battleship
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: D.Rasta on September 25, 2015, 01:25:47 PM
I installed Ise and activated "True Color Textures for HSFX, Histomod, Ultrapack 2.x and other 'classic' style modded games", "High Resolution Texture DLLs" and "High Res True Color Sample Custom Skins", but I don't see Ise in game (4.12.2m + HSFX 7.03) although these three mods works nortmal.

When I installed this version...

Next question, can you use other ship mod that use HD texture?
If not, try this file.
https://www.mediafire.com/download/o984ucsid5jior5/Ise.rar  (https://www.mediafire.com/download/o984ucsid5jior5/Ise.rar)
This file include Ise that textures are changed to under 1kx1k.

it works, but in FMB I see that:
(http://s29.postimg.cc/k4pghcqev/grab0071.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/3tpcl1dwz/full/)
 (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=russian)

and in game 3-rd turret doesn't shoot at any position of the enemy:

(http://s3.postimg.cc/l32u2cos3/grab0066.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/8bonvuezz/full/)
 (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=russian)
(http://s12.postimg.cc/jplwo197h/grab0067.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
 (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=russian)
(http://s13.postimg.cc/7caxy93on/grab0065.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
 (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=russian)

What's the problem?
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: asheshouse on September 25, 2015, 02:22:40 PM
Answer to pink deck in fmb is on page 8
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: D.Rasta on September 25, 2015, 03:32:20 PM
Answer to pink deck in fmb is on page 8
In what program should I  add "hidden" ?
When I tryed to do it in notepad - Ise doesn't work at all.

And what about High Resolution version of Ise?

And what about 3-rd turret?

And there is no 3d gunners near AA guns...
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on September 26, 2015, 09:24:01 AM

When HD texture mod isn't working, similar error comes.


Some PC environments (using not Intel CPU) may make strange behavior of HD texture mod --- enabling aircrafts HD textures, but not for others / ships , maps.
As weatern0221 said, I guess my 2k texture cause some problem.

>hideen
The pink deck is for shadow receiver and this deck doesn't show in playing scene.
Please ignore it in FMB if your rewrite cause trouble.

>3-rd turret
Aft turret can't train to both side around aft superstructure because of il-2 default system.
3rd turret train to starboard and 4th turret to portside in default setting.

If you make mission that enemy targets are on the one side of Ise and want her fire all main Gun.
You can change bellows parameter in Ship.ini.

Quote
[IJNIseBB:Part5] <--- this is for #3 main Gun and [part6] is for #4 main Gun
BaseChunk                 Head3
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun3
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunHuge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_MkVII_356
 FireFastTaget                1
 PreferSlowTarget

 HeadMinYaw                60  <--- -60
 HeadMaxYaw                 150 <---- -150

 HeadMinYaw                60  <--- -150 (+direction is right direc. - is for left )
 HeadMaxYaw                 150 <---- -60 (sorry i mistake this value *edit on Dec. 29 2015 )
 GunHeadChunk             Head3
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun3
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart3

This limitation will be solved by other mod made by weatern0221.

>no 3d gunners near AA guns
Yes, I didn't add gunner.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: asheshouse on September 26, 2015, 09:54:24 AM
Damawo

You can make the 3rd and 4th turret fire on both sides.
Sample ships.ini text from Lexington_42 is below.
Use the NoFireMinYaw and NoFireMaxYaw to prevent gun firing on superstructure.

Code: [Select]
// mid-ship 28mm quad - existence not definte
 
[USSLexingtonCV2_42:Part76]
BaseChunk                Head58_x
AdditionalCollisionChunk0 Gun58_x
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunSmall

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_28_75Mk1
 HeadMinYaw                -130             
 HeadMaxYaw                 130
 NoFireMinYaw               -50             /// Defines zone +/- 50deg where gun will not fire.
 NoFireMaxYaw                50
 GunHeadChunk            Head58_x
 GunBarrelChunk           Gun58_x
 GunShellStartHook ShellStart58
 FireFastTargets       
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: damawo on September 26, 2015, 10:47:49 AM
Damawo

You can make the 3rd and 4th turret fire on both sides.
Sample ships.ini text from Lexington_42 is below.
Use the NoFireMinYaw and NoFireMaxYaw to prevent gun firing on superstructure.
Thanks! I don't know this function.

Then bellow is what should we write.
Code: [Select]
[IJNIseBB:Part5]
BaseChunk                 Head3
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun3
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunHuge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_MkVII_356
 FireFastTaget                1
 PreferSlowTarget
 HeadMinYaw                -150
 HeadMaxYaw                 150
 NoFireMinYaw               -60         
 NoFireMaxYaw                60
 GunHeadChunk             Head3
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun3
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart3

[IJNIseBB:Part6]
BaseChunk                 Head4
AdditionalCollisionChunk0  Gun4
strengthBasedOnThisSection strength_GunHuge

gunBasedOnThisSection gun_MkVII_356
 FireFastTaget                1
 PreferSlowTarget
 HeadMinYaw                -150
 HeadMaxYaw                 150
 NoFireMinYaw               -70         
 NoFireMaxYaw                70
 GunHeadChunk             Head4
 GunBarrelChunk            Gun4
 GunShellStartHook  ShellStart4


Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: western0221 on September 26, 2015, 10:59:55 AM
Damawo

You can make the 3rd and 4th turret fire on both sides.
Sample ships.ini text from Lexington_42 is below.
Use the NoFireMinYaw and NoFireMaxYaw to prevent gun firing on superstructure.

NoFireMinYaw / NoFireMaxYaw function is provided only by my Ship Extensions MOD.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,39077.0.html - 4.12.2m
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,18742.0.html - 4.11.1m / 4.10.1m
Without this MOD, those 2 lines mean nothing and the guns fire to rear structures.

So, when you are OK that your ship dependents on Ship Extensions MOD, set those parameters.
But not .... need working on each Stock games .... not to set. damawo's first parameters are safe.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Meaker on December 28, 2015, 12:12:50 PM
Wow,have just downloaded and installed this wonderful Mod,what a ship !,thank you very much damawo,excellent work sir !


Love this hybrid ship..........but would also like the E16A 'Paul' Seaplane featured on this thread,can someone please point me in the right direction to where it's located.can't find it,thanks.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Meaker on October 03, 2018, 03:11:43 AM
Love this hybrid ship..........but would also like the E16A 'Paul' Seaplane featured on this thread,can someone please point me in the right direction to where it's located.can't find it,thanks.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Epervier on October 03, 2018, 05:19:16 AM
Love this hybrid ship..........but would also like the E16A 'Paul' Seaplane featured on this thread,can someone please point me in the right direction to where it's located.can't find it,thanks.

Love this hybrid ship..........but would also like the E16A 'Paul' Seaplane featured on this thread,can someone please point me in the right direction to where it's located.can't find it,thanks.
If you have not received an answer for 3 years it may be because there has been no change!
 http://damawo.blog99.fc2.com/
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: western0221 on October 03, 2018, 05:23:01 AM
Love this hybrid ship..........but would also like the E16A 'Paul' Seaplane featured on this thread,can someone please point me in the right direction to where it's located.can't find it,thanks.

E16A 'Paul' (Zuiun) is not finished, not published.

Only in damawo's hand .... Works In Progress.
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Meaker on October 03, 2018, 07:29:44 AM
Love this hybrid ship..........but would also like the E16A 'Paul' Seaplane featured on this thread,can someone please point me in the right direction to where it's located.can't find it,thanks.

Love this hybrid ship..........but would also like the E16A 'Paul' Seaplane featured on this thread,can someone please point me in the right direction to where it's located.can't find it,thanks.
If you have not received an answer for 3 years it may be because there has been no change!
 http://damawo.blog99.fc2.com/


Lol.....yes I can see how it looks,sorry,I added that comment to my message of three years ago,before realising obviously that it would be better to create new message today,I meant to modify/delete that bit.......Sorry to confuse  :-[
Title: Re: IJN Battle Ship "Ise 1944-1945"
Post by: Meaker on October 03, 2018, 07:32:36 AM
Love this hybrid ship..........but would also like the E16A 'Paul' Seaplane featured on this thread,can someone please point me in the right direction to where it's located.can't find it,thanks.

E16A 'Paul' (Zuiun) is not finished, not published.

Only in damawo's hand .... Works In Progress.


Thanks Western,did'nt realise......and,I have been away a while.....3 years to be precise,so I'm finding my way around again......the old learning curve  ;D