Special Aircraft Service
Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Twins => Topic started by: Docholiday on July 05, 2014, 04:21:03 AM
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Hallo
Some time ago I experimented with this plane: It`s not completely historical 8)
In reality there were plans for bomb armed Ju-88G1 Destroyers. But the need for nighfighters caused that this version was newer built.
The Atlantikzerstörer Ju-88H2 in principle was a stretched Ju-88G with 2 additional 2 cm MK in the right nose. It should attack antisubmarine planes far over the Atlantik. It was canceled after some planes because the handling was clumsy or a fighter plane. From the Ju-88H1 (recon) there were some more.
In my little experiment You have the Weapons of the H2 and BIG droptanks.
Anyway after Sputnickshock gave me his permission I modified his plane to have a counterpart of all the Beaufighter and Mosquito we already had in the game ;)
Unfortunately I was not abe to create a new slot >:( so it will replace the Sputnickshock`s Ju-88G6 NJ if You have instelled it.
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/a/img855/849/di72.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/a/img35/9317/jbaf.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/a/img59/5763/2ywb.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/a/img546/424/9sbc.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/a/img577/9070/kssh.jpg)
New Version with flight model and 3dfixes from last Ju-88G6 version
Own Slot by Bombsaway and CWatson and new default-skin by Malone https://www.mediafire.com/download/u73t8i5o2zkcql6/Ju-88_Stechmucke.7z (https://www.mediafire.com/download/u73t8i5o2zkcql6/Ju-88_Stechmucke.7z)
have fun
Doc
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ooh a shiny new Ju-88! thats always a good thing! thanks doc! 8)
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That is nice! Please, specify, what features are needed to be added in class/FM.
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yes! this is the one that i found on my HD a while ago, and i had no idea where it came from or who made it.
please, please, please - this is an awesome variant, and needs its own slot! :D
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I need more detailed specifications to make it :)
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I need more detailed specifications to make it :)
Hallo
You need only to give the classfile of this plane another name ! I already made the classwork for the loadout. I don`t know why I cant clone this slot (for my Beaufighters and a-20s I could do it 8)
I can only modify the existing slot.
If I gave the plane another name it did not appear in the plane list of the game.
I would be happy If You could create a "Ju-88G1 Stechmücke" Slot for this plane !!! :)
THX a lot
Doc
By the way: It`s nice to see that the community is still alive ! ;)
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I'm downloading it now and will try to give it its own slot today.
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I'm downloading it now and will try to give it its own slot today.
Okay Mark, I will leave it to you, have some other things to do already :)
By the way, Doc, sometimes I feel like there is only a 5-10 people who actively doing this,
and I feel very good to feel myself a part of this community :)
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Ok, between CWatson and I and his far more advanced skills than mine, :) we have this bird in its own slot. The cockpit classes needed to be renamed to get the plane to work. That may be why Doc was having trouble.
It really needs a new default skin because the one it comes with has markings on it and the AI will show both the default skin markings and the game generated ones. Other skins dont look very good because the mapping is not the same as other 88's.
The stationary is included with its new entries.
I made this using 4.12 so please report any issues in other versions of the game as well as any issues in 4.12
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I don`t know why I cant clone this slot (for my Beaufighters and a-20s I could do it 8)
If I gave the plane another name it did not appear in the plane list of the game.
The reason was the cockpits. Just as planes reference what cockpit they use in the plane's classfile, some cockpits will reference the plane they are attached to in their classfile and that was the case here.
Since the cockpits referenced the G-6 and this was no longer a G-6 there of course was a issue.
As I explained to Bombsaway, if a is plane showing in the QMB but not loading in mission or having a blue screen you can narrow your trouble down by removing the cockpit reference line in the plane's classfile. This creates a AI only version. If it then loads in a mission as enemy or additional ally flight it confirms the trouble is cockpit related. Then one cockpit class can be modified and added at a time.
CW
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i'll post up a reworked skin that i did for this when i first discovered it hiding in a dark corner of my HDD, at some point today
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Mark, just a little fyi note - the skin folder that is provided with your download is incorrectly named, so if guy simply drag it into their skins folder, they won't see any skins.
it should be: Ju-88G1-Stechmucke and not Ju-88G1 Stechmucke ;)
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okay, here's the unmarked default summer/winter skin, just put into the plane folder, overwrite if asked.
https://www.mediafire.com/?dpcnzv4k3km5z69
:D
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Bomsaway, CWatson and Malone You are great ! In one day my little creature had his own slot and a new default skin ;D
THX mates ! !
Thank You for the explication CWatson !
Cheers
Doc
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I'll make a new download with the correct name for the skins folder after work today.
Glad to help Doc. :)
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Ok, new link on first post with corrected skin folder name.
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hi!
Very nice work!!
It's working perfectly with DBW 1.71 ( V4.101)
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Hi mates
It's working on SAS 5.30 & TFM27+
Only a little issue with the gunsight reticle, disappear from the FOV of the pilot sometimes
Beautiful aircraft, superb work!!!
Thanks
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hi!
Very nice work!!
It's working perfectly with DBW 1.71 ( V4.101)
?? I figured I'd try it in my DBW and it does show up but,it's frozen in mid air and will not move.On scramble missions it gets to a certain speed and freezes(Needs a dedicated 4.10 Fm).Works great in 4.12 though.Thanks to all involved. 8) 8)
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Hi mates
It's working on SAS 5.30 & TFM27+
Only a little issue with the gunsight reticle, disappear from the FOV of the pilot sometimes
Beautiful aircraft, superb work!!!
Thanks
Hi
Unfortunately thats a "hereditary dissease" inherited from it`s related Ju-88G6 ;) 8)
In the thread of this plane some guys already diskussed this little issue some time ago. I am not sure but I think they found a little workaround ?!
Cheers
Doc
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(UPDATE) Got it to fly in DBW,it was a mod conflict with crazyflak's old engine flame mod that was causing my problem.I deactivated it now the plane fly's normally without freezing in mid air. :) :)
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it would be great if the reticle disappearing issue could be looked at, it's really irritating.
i'm thinking it could just be a slight edit in the hier file, but as to which, i don't know.
i'm sure there are guys here who could fix this easily, so let's hope one of them reads this. ;)
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Hy tested the whole new package in my DBW-Installation and found that the reticle - problem does not appear in 4.10.
Cheers
Doc
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OOH OOH 8)
I realized that the plane still used the FM of the Ju-88C ! I changed it to the FM of the last version of Sputnickshocks Ju-88G6 !
The whole package as one Download on first page !
Cheers
Doc
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I changed it the FM of the C because if someone doesnt have the G6 it would not load. This keeps it a stand alone instead of everyone having to have the G6 just to have this.
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it may be best, to avoid any further confusion, to make both FM versions available separately in the first post :D
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I have a queston.... the last loadout in the list is something in german I'm guessing anti tank but they are just large drop tanks or are they supposed to be bombs?
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@Eugene... you forgot to add the default skins to your new link. :)
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I changed it the FM of the C because if someone doesnt have the G6 it would not load. This keeps it a stand alone instead of everyone having to have the G6 just to have this.
The FM of th Ju-88G6 is included in the download. So You can use it without the Ju-88G6 NJ.
I have a queston.... the last loadout in the list is something in german I'm guessing anti tank but they are just large drop tanks or are they supposed to be bombs?
The last Loadout is the "Atlantikzerstörer" . It was built for challenging antisubmarine-planes far over the Atlantik. For this duty it needs a lot of fuel (2 big droptanks) and heavy armament (for shooting down Liberators, Sunderlands and co.)
THX a lot
Doc
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@Eugene... you forgot to add the default skins to your new link. :)
i think this is part of the confusion that i was worried would happen, lol - i only put up one link in the thread, post #12, for the default skins.
i have not added any other new link....
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@Eugene... you forgot to add the default skins to your new link. :)
i think this is part of the confusion that i was worried would happen, lol - i only put up one link in the thread, post #12, for the default skins.
i have not added any other new link....
mea culpa ! 8)
It was me who caused the confusion by using Your DL.ink on first page !
Cheers
Doc
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fantastic plane 8)
Thanks to all involved!
regards,
Piotrek
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Hi to all mates, i download the file but in the readme not appears loadout list, its wrong or maybe found it in other side
Forgot it please, i see the loadout at loadout screen.... :( :(
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fantastic plane 8)
Thanks to all involved!
regards,
Piotrek
Agreed (http://i62.tinypic.com/2dln62v.jpg)
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Superb job guys, thank you very much indeed. 8)
Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Great job guys, well done.
Thank you,
G;
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Great plane, guys! An incredible hunter of all trains :P...also found very damege resistant!
Mopat
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Further Info: after Chriss Goss, bloody Biscaya: at least one JU-88G1 Deytroyer flew over the Biscaya Daylight sorties. (one is listet as lost 1944). Off course she had no Torpedoes or rockets as wepons. ????
Cheers
Doc
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Doc
I think your getting your wires crossed mate, the JU-88 G1 was a nightfighter so would not have carried bombs or rockets, it was basically the JU-88 G6 we have from Sputnikshock but with BMW rather than Jumo engines.
see here
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/67714-ju88-g-1-late-war/
and here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_88
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Doc
I think your getting your wires crossed mate, the JU-88 G1 was a nightfighter so would not have carried bombs or rockets, it was basically the JU-88 G6 we have from Sputnikshock but with BMW rather than Jumo engines.
see here
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/67714-ju88-g-1-late-war/
No wires crossed mate ! As I wrote (if You reade my post) they had of course NO bombs, Torpedos or rockets !
But one JU-88G1 2N+BL of 3/ZG1 was lost on 7. January 1944 north of Caen. Crew Strobel, Schneider, Dressler. Together with JU-88R2 !!!
At least one whole staffel of KG.40 used Ju-88R2 Destroyers. I found text and Pics about the JU-88R2 in "Bloody Biscaya and "Die deutsche Luftwaffe, Zerstörer und Nachtjagdverbände Band II und III, Michael Meyer + Paul Stipdonk, VDM-Verlag. Thats only for the guys who Thing the Ju-88R was only used as Nightfighter too ? 8)
These were the first evidence I found that these Versions were in day-use too. The explication is that the Luftwaffe looked after a solution against the Beaufighters and the Mosquitos over the Bay.
I prefer to find my Infos in extracts of official documents (p.ex. loss lists) and not on the Internet
Cheers
Doc
BTW. Initially the Ju-88G1 had Bomb-attaching-points too but the need for Nightfighters was higher !
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My mistake, i thought the :o emoticon was refering to the plane not carrying rockets or torpedos. I to prefer official documents, the internet links were just an easy way to explain what i thought.
regards
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Thank you, that's really great.
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Hi to all.
I have a question. ive installed this aircraft and selected the Atlantikzerstoerer bombs but i cant drop them.(if they are bombs)
can someone help ??
CRS101
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ok ive found it...on page 3 there is a post that they are large droptanks.
:P
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Doing OK so far in 4.13.....thanks again Doc. 8)
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Really fun to fly, so its not totally historically accurate but who cares? As an opponent I find this model very difficult to kill. A Mk VI Mossie has enough ammo to do the job. I'm not the best shot but I find that with with a lot of other aircraft I run out before finishing the target off, in comparison to other JU88 models. Has this model been created with a higher protection rating?
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Found the Ju-88 Gun sight Bug.
(http://s17.postimg.cc/5l2bwx5bz/2015_08_04_16_00_08.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Did Somebody fix the Gun sight. Thanks.
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Thank you Darkwind. ;D
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KingTiger503 try this in cockpit files edit ReticleC6.mat and change tfTestZ to 0
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Thanks for all the hard work folks and for a wonderful Aircraft....Love the 88 ;D