Special Aircraft Service
Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Frankenstein's Hangar => Topic started by: Bison_M on October 27, 2014, 12:07:19 PM
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Hi all! :) POST EDITED! 07-11-2024
This alpha-version attack helicopter Ka-50-2 Hokum_B "Erdogan" (What if... or just for fun).
Tested in the 4101m + SASmodakt 3.6. + engine mode 2.6, in 4.10.1 with DBW 1.71 and in the 4122m + SASmodakt 5.3. + engine mode 2.7
Prehistory:
In 1982, made its first flight multipurpose attack helicopter Ka-50 "Black Shark" (NATO designation "Hokum").
In 1997 he first took to the sky Ka-52 "Alligator" (Meaning of NATO "Hokum B"), which is a further development and modernization of
the Ka-50.
In late 1997, the Turkish government announced a tender for future combat helicopter. In the application for participation in the tender filed in late 1997, firm "Kamov" offered Turkey Double multipurpose combat helicopter Ka-50-2, repeated in a constructive manner Russian reconnaissance and strike Ka-52, received the proper name "Erdogan" (Erdogan that is Turkish for "warrior").
In 2001 it became known that the firm "Kamov" is considering another option Double Ka-52. As to the "Erdogan", the crew on it will be placed in a "tandem", but constructive solution cockpit, apparently, will be different. Unlike the Ka-50-2, on the new machine,
named in advertisements "Rosoboronexport" as Ka-54, will be greatly enhanced more armored cockpit and in the equipment will include new weapons systems.
We allowed ourselves to dream a little, and offer version of the Ka-50-2, maybe even more similar to the Ka-54. ;D
This helicopter has a slightly larger then original, two more powerful (fantastic) engine Klimov VK-2800 (TVZ-118VMA-DBA),
suspension (pendant) arms appropriate Mi-24V, and a 12.7-mm machine gun YakB Quadruple-12.7 (on the mobile unit USPU-24, 1470 rounds).
The project - start-up of 30-mm cannon with 460 rounds 2A42, or 20- mm machine gun turret of the French concern GIAT (depending on the customer).
Mod requires the original mod Mi-24V from here: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,32888.msg352689.html#msg352689 (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,32888.msg352689.html#msg352689)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wB4Hh37n/2024-11-07-06-18-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/B8Fd3S5C)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RF3mG9th/2024-11-07-06-18-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47TjNDBR)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCW247GR/2024-11-07-06-38-14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RtK4LnR)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MHVS2Dd8/2024-11-07-06-38-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqNK00B9)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2WkWrky/2024-11-07-06-40-07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c60VqNvQ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7Yr41FZP/2024-11-07-06-42-41.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5jgDbkzD)
DOWNLOAD Ka-50-2:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ekx4jwjxqsemy42/KA-50-2016.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/ekx4jwjxqsemy42/KA-50-2016.7z/file)
Install:
Unzip and put on in your Mods folder.
Add to air.ini:
KA_52 air.KA_52 1 NOINFO fr01 SUMMER
Currently known bugs:
- Does not (correct) work 30(20)-mm gun;
- Do not correct the damage model;
- Inability to use the AI;
- The lack off default skins.
Short Flight manual in readme.
And Bonus from Mission_bug (Thanks a lot Pete!): Ka-52 Hokum_B "Alligator"
Now both variants Ka-50-2 (Erdogan) and Ka-52 Hokum_B works in 412.
Thank you Vasily (Aviaskins)
Install in a folder with mods this patch and use the 412 version of the Ka-50-2 (Erdogan) and Ka-52 Hokum_B.
Hely doors:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/z66555dytml4kt3/00_Hely_doors.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/z66555dytml4kt3/00_Hely_doors.7z/file)
Install:
Unzip and put on in your Mods folder.
Mod requires the original mod Mi-24V from here: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,32888.msg352689.html#msg352689
And requires mod H-19 from here: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,7862.msg81108.html#msg81108
DOWNLOAD Ka-52 Hokum_B version 2016:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/k38pxjiczym8w0m/KA-52-2016.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/k38pxjiczym8w0m/KA-52-2016.7z/file)
Add to air.ini:
KA_50 air.KA_50 1 NOINFO fr01 SUMMER
I apologize for bugs in 3D and DM.
Credits:
(mods used for Ka-50-52)
- 1C: Maddox Games: IL-2
- 1C: MiG-9 cockpit, B-25
- BT~Wasted and team: Mi-24V
- BT~Wasted & Benitomuso: helicopter and hover code
- Cy6: some of java code, OV-1, OV-10
- Ranwers: Meteors series, Leo-451
- GJE52 and team: L-139 (159) series, KJ-1
- S3: Yak-36, MiG-19, F-4
- SAS~Anto: MiG-15UTI
- Flakiten: H-19 cockpit
- Mission_bug: Slot, classes Ka-50-52
- Bison_M: 3D interpreter Ka-50-52
And thanks to all those who I have not mentioned in this list.
Enjoy! ;)
Bison_M
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Thanks Bison.
Can't wait to give this bird a whirl ;)
Ed
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Works perfectly in 4.10.1 with DBW 1.71 ;D
Thanks again Bison_M ;)
Ed
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Works perfectly in 4.10.1 with DBW 1.71 ;D
Thanks again Bison_M ;)
Ed
Thanks for the info! 8)
Added in 1st post.
Regards
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Thank you dear Bison, this thing is superb. Love the mighty engines; you are a true son of Rasputin.
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Here Bonus from Mission_bug (Thanks a lot Pete!) ;D: Ka-52 Hokum_B "Alligator"
See 1st post.
Regards ;)
Bison
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Hope you don't mind me trying to add a little colour Bison_M. :)
Still a WIP of course and If I could ever figure a way to share it I certainly would. ;)
Thanks again,
Ed
(http://s16.postimg.cc/paetdj7cl/29_10_2014_1_31_27.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6uucg4t81/full/)
(http://s16.postimg.cc/ad6cciu45/29_10_2014_1_31_46.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5eitxzqb5/full/)
(http://s16.postimg.cc/mhllti705/29_10_2014_1_32_11.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/eouy1j10x/full/)
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Hope you don't mind me trying to add a little colour Bison_M. :)
Still a WIP of course and If I could ever figure a way to share it I certainly would. ;)
Thanks again,
Ed
Thanks. :) From my point of view - great skin, more suitable to modern painting, but I would have done even a little lighter GOES, covers and engine nozzle, so they are not too dark on the general background.
If it completed - you can post it here, I think many will thank you for it. ;)
Regards
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Thanks Bison ;D
I'm still trying to figure out the where's and what's of how this all fits together so I'm not really sure where those parts are yet but I'll keep your point re the lighter colourization of them in mind as it nears completion ;)
Thanks again,
Ed
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bump, any news on that grey skin
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Always dream create this absolutely beauty Ka-50... but stop - in il-2 now heli is possible? ??? ???
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but stop - in il-2 now heli is possible? ??? ???
Since...last year. LOL.
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but stop - in il-2 now heli is possible? ??? ???
Since...last year. LOL.
I have an old Bell 47 download dated 09/11/2010: 11;25AM and there was a primitive beta
not released Fa-223 done prior that, leading to HRS3/Bell 47 releases.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,38274.msg425278.html#msg425278
HRS3 post is august 2010: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,7862.msg81108.html#msg81108.
Bell47 is v1.2 and HRS-3 is v1.05; so there was even earlier mods to these.
About SAS old wip thread, jun 2010: http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=9821
In the thread at SAS linked in the first post is a WIP video of a Drache taking off.
So will it will be soon five years ago ( in June 2015 ) that helicopters were introduced in il2+SAS.
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Now both variants Ka-50-2 (Erdogan) and Ka-52 (Hokum B) works in 412. POST EDITED!
Thank you Vasily (Aviaskins)
Install in a folder with mods this patch and use the 412 version of the Ka-50-2 (Erdogan) and Ka-52 (Hokum B).
New version (2016) for Ka-52 (Hokum B) look in the first post.
Best wishes. ;)
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the link is dead, can you fix it?
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the link is dead, can you fix it?
Links reuplouded in first post
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Thanks ;D
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Ahaj Bison I have such a problem with the Ka-52 you can't get the machine off the ground just tilt it "when I start the machine in the air the machine flies normally for a while and then starts to descend you can't gain altitude even the AI has the same problem I don't know if I'm doing something wrong personally, but the Mi-24 hind flies as it should I use BAT in 4.2.2 Flashpoint :o o_O
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Ahaj Bison I have such a problem with the Ka-52 you can't get the machine off the ground just tilt it "when I start the machine in the air the machine flies normally for a while and then starts to descend you can't gain altitude even the AI has the same problem I don't know if I'm doing something wrong personally, but the Mi-24 hind flies as it should I use BAT in 4.2.2 Flashpoint :o o_O
Hi.
I doubt I can help you with your problem.
The slots for Ka-50/52 were written with FM for 4101 and 4122.
I use the game version 4122m+SASmodact and everything works fine in manual mode with full fuel and weapons. Only the AI behaves not quite adequately in this case.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wB4Hh37n/2024-11-07-06-18-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/B8Fd3S5C)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RF3mG9th/2024-11-07-06-18-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47TjNDBR)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCW247GR/2024-11-07-06-38-14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RtK4LnR)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MHVS2Dd8/2024-11-07-06-38-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqNK00B9)
But, I use Mi-24 from here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,59782.msg658592.html#msg658592 (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,59782.msg658592.html#msg658592)
Try replacing FM, maybe it will help
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thanks for the help, i also think it's due to an update or something like that, i'll try to fix it somehow, fm maybe it will help, maybe even il-2 selector 4.0.2 will be a problem and the start of the version is Il-2 1946 at 5.00 Bat at 4.2 flashpoint .. and it should probably be 4.12.2 I'm going to try
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Sorry to say that the helicopters have always been difficult to use, I renamed a class file made by someone else to at least give this a slot and so sad to say it is and always will be a difficult thing to use as the sim was never intended for helicopters so what we have was a compromise using what was available. ;)
Anything in BAT might have had some improvements done by Mike but even so the helicopters always had a limited use and took some time for many to master.
I gave up trying and my java is terrible so not much hope of me being able to improve things for you sorry to say. :D
Take care and be safe.
Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D