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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => UK_Singles => Topic started by: Knochenlutscher on April 15, 2016, 09:43:18 AM

Title: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.5.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on April 15, 2016, 09:43:18 AM
+ Make Hawker Hurricane great again!!!
Seriously, here I support kicking a Request for a tiny but heavy historical Loadout option.
It's such small things that make out differences and I stumbled across this when researching the ugly Filter Hurries.
Here are two pictures I could find depicting 78.IAP Ace Snr. Ltn. Alexey Dizheskiy with this heavy Prank.

As I understood the topic, the Northern Fleet and VVS Hurries had trouble coming along the Jerries and their superior
armament. Hence a variety of Loadouts were tested to pack more punch. This undoubtly being enough to shredd
a bit riveted Duraluminium and leave a mark. Although the Russians rarely used the .303s.

It's basicly the Mk./IIB mod (Default) + 4 outer Wing .303 Brownings

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2xShvaK 20mm Cannons
2xUBk 12,7mm MGs
4x.303 cal. Browning MGs
(http://s23.postimg.cc/9t62t7hdn/Heavy_Hurrie_Mk_IIB_mod2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

(http://s30.postimg.cc/d56b326s1/Heavy_Hurrie_Mk_IIB_mod.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/e7ghllpl9/full/)

For the moment that's all regarding references, the Author of the Osprey Title will publish a more comprehensive Title
showcasing VVS Hurries, better then this Pamphlet, let's hope he get's it done.

Source:
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Osprey Publishing - Soviet Hurricane Aces
SAM Publications - The Hawker Hurricane

Introduces another historical Field modification by VVS used on Hurricanes.
The combined Power of UBK, ShVAK and .303.

Download v.5.0
https://www.mediafire.com/file/djdp7okz8iiogxc/%252B_HurricaneMkIIbModVVS.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/djdp7okz8iiogxc/%252B_HurricaneMkIIbModVVS.7z/file)

Version 5.0
- ???
- outer cannons/MG shells fixed
- Gear Fix by Epervier added
- Rs-82 Rockets added

Tested in
CUP/WAW#20
4.12

air.ini:
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HurricaneMkIIbModVVS     air.HurricaneMkIIbModVVS 1                  gb01  SUMMER

plane ru:
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HurricaneMkIIbModVVS    Hawker Hurricane II/b field mod VVS, 1941

weapons ru:
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# HurricaneMkIIbModVVS
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HurricaneMkIIbModVVS.default        Default (2x UBK + 2x ShVAK + 4x .303)
HurricaneMkIIbModVVS.4xrs82         Default + 4x RS82 Rockets
HurricaneMkIIbModVVS.6xrs82         Default + 6x RS82 Rockets
HurricaneMkIIbModVVS.none           Empty

Credits:
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- 1C/Maddox TD: Hurricane Mk.II/B mod
- AAA UI 1.1/UP 1.8
- PA_Jeronimo: new Gears
- AMT-New Hurricane spinners:
  LODS, Shadows and Hier fixes by Birdman
  New spinners 3d by Red_Fox90
- SAS Hurricane Pack v2.1:
  Classfiles, new drop tanks, 3D edits and default skins by Anto
  Skinning Templates and Default Skins by FriendlyFlyer
  New trop filter 3D by JapanCat (original remap by VH-Rock)
  FMs by Howlin, Karaya, Sani and Anto
  Original MkIID mod by Mr Jolly and AAA team (updated parts included)
  Mosca and Cirx for original Mk I early mod
  Birdman for LOD fixes
  In addition, thankyou to Beowolf, Danzigzag, CharlieChap and Karaya.
  Your previous works were all used in this pack in some way or the other!
- Wing msh Fix: SAS~Skylla
- Gear Fix: SAS~Epervier
- Default Skins:
  1.JaVA_Serval
  Winger_69
  FlybyShooter
  Friendly_flyer
  BP_Tyrl
  Nitrous
  Cannon-UK

Thanks for stopping by and being a Hurricane supporter
Kind Regards
Tobias

Post Updated, 2021
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout
Post by: bomberkiller on April 15, 2016, 10:22:46 AM
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outer Wing .303 Brownings

I'll love it!  ;)
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout
Post by: greybeard on April 16, 2016, 01:25:30 AM
Segfej,

thanks for your continued interest in Hurricane: I'm one of its lovers too! ;)

About outer .303's, I think that if they added them (like also did British), they should have had some effect. In game I was often surprised by their effectiveness: they don't destroy like cannons, but often are better in setting ablaze the enemy aircraft or kill its pilot.
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout
Post by: Paulo Hirth on April 16, 2016, 02:25:55 AM
   Yes! Hurricane is a classic WW2 plane, worth all versions!
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout
Post by: Knochenlutscher on April 19, 2016, 04:12:53 AM
She's ready to take the skies... soon

Have a nice day
Tobias
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout
Post by: bomberkiller on April 19, 2016, 04:33:54 AM
WUNDERBAR!  ;D
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout
Post by: Ta183Huckebein on April 19, 2016, 08:06:23 AM
Ooooooo, I like!  ;D

Great to see it!
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.1.0 [4.12][cup]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on April 23, 2016, 01:20:17 PM
There she is Combat girl aka heavy VVS Hurrie for your pleasure.
Happy flying
Tobias
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.1.0
Post by: DU30 on April 23, 2016, 02:20:56 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.1.0 [4.12][cup]
Post by: Darkwind on April 23, 2016, 06:03:51 PM
  She's 100% "KICK ASS"  :P
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.1.0 [4.12][cup]
Post by: greybeard on April 24, 2016, 12:45:54 AM
Segfej,

thank you so much for this new breed of Hurricanes! I think I'll suit a campaign for them!

Tested successfully in 4.09 + UP2.01.

There's an issue with cannon shell casing ejection, which happens outboard in respect of the barrel, whilst relevant slot looks to be inboard. I think it's inherited from stock Hurri Mod, which retained this issue until now, in v4.13.1.

Thanks also for skins, so warlike; it is unclear from your credits who made them, I fear you mixed and matched the Hurri Filter ones.

Gratefully yours,
Greybeard
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.2.0 [4.09][4.12][cup]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on April 24, 2016, 01:56:05 AM
Version 2 comes with Skylla's Fix for the Shells, Credits reworked too,
Thanks for the reminder Greybeard  ;)
Kind Regards
Tobias
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.2.0 [4.09][4.12][cup]
Post by: greybeard on April 24, 2016, 08:39:02 AM
Version 2 comes with Skylla's Fix for the Shells

Great!

An huge thanks to you, Skylla and all skinmakers involved!

Also version 2 with its corrected shell casing ejection works perfectly in my 4.09+UP2.01 installation.

Cheers,
GB
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.2.0 [4.09][4.12][cup]
Post by: cgagan on April 24, 2016, 11:03:00 AM
Many thanks gentlemen, for the fine job you're doing; we can't have enough VVS aircraft!!!! 8)
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.2.0
Post by: Korrigan on April 24, 2016, 01:53:30 PM
we can't have enough VVS aircraft!!!!
Yes indeed, Costas. And we can't have enough Hurricanes too  :).
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.3.0 [4.09][4.12][cup]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on April 26, 2016, 02:46:48 AM
Version 3 is out, it comes with Gear Fix by Epervier
check first Post

Kind Regards
Tobias
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.3.0 [4.09][4.12][cup]
Post by: bomberkiller on April 26, 2016, 05:43:55 AM
Hello Tobias,

the Hurri runs flawless too in my old 4.10.1 & DBW & UV3.

Thank you very much.

Best regards, Gerhard  :)
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.3.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on April 26, 2016, 06:11:11 AM
Thanks for the Testing and Info Gerhard,

Kind Regards
Tobias
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.3.0 [4.09][4.12][cup]
Post by: greybeard on April 27, 2016, 01:13:31 AM
Version 3 is out, it comes with Gear Fix by Epervier

Thank you very much! :)
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.4.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on April 27, 2016, 09:26:10 AM
Final is out, version 4.0 comes with additional Rockets.
Fiddling took that much time to figure out how they can be attached.

Have fun Mates
Kind Regards
Tobias
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.4.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: greybeard on April 28, 2016, 01:55:21 AM
Thank you for this further refinement!

Fine functioning in my 4.09 installation.
(http://s32.postimg.cc/vp7sodnat/Hurri_VVSrockets.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

Cheers,
GB
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.4.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: greybeard on April 29, 2016, 02:24:35 AM
Thanks Epervier!

You deserve a Russian kiss! :P

(http://s32.postimg.cc/pqekja1hx/russiankiss.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

Real thing seems more complicated, though, looking at following topic:
http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=881.0 (http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=881.0)

being weapons layout asymmetrical; if this is true, weapons should lie according to this drawing:

(http://s32.postimg.cc/ada7awknp/Hurri_VVSweapons_Asymmetry.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.4.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: Epervier on April 29, 2016, 04:08:52 AM
Whoever had designed this plan had abused the vodka?  o_O
Everyone is free to change or not the position of this rocket!  :-|
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.4.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: greybeard on April 29, 2016, 08:53:22 AM

(http://s32.postimg.cc/fkjk71yhh/Hurri_VVSrockets_bombs.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.4.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: Epervier on April 29, 2016, 10:13:57 AM
Ok you win! I delete my post!  :D
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.4.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: greybeard on April 29, 2016, 12:28:36 PM
Ok you win!
Oh! I wouldn't "win" - just to assess the truth. :-X

Quote
I delete my post!  :D
Noblesse oblige! ;)

Cheers, mate!
GB
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.4.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: Fresco23 on May 01, 2016, 05:24:18 PM
Interesting. Since it's a field modification, I wonder if it's asymmetrical due to how the cannon above may be positioned inside the wing, or due to how the Ammo is fed or ejected??
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.4.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: greybeard on May 02, 2016, 01:54:28 AM
I fear it is unknown.

In the above link, author guesses about ammo feeds ("I presume this is due to allowing for the ammo feeds of UB guns?").

In my personal experience, any "odd" layout is motivated by giving room to something; I guess Hurricane left wing was in some way different from right one, causing need for those asymmetries. Maybe some Hurricane connoisseur could answer properly.
Title: Re: VVS Hurricane Mk.II/b mod "Heavy Punch" Loadout v.5.0 [4.09][4.10][4.12][cup][dbw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on October 29, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
A new recent Version of the old is up, this is from my Vault in the BAT 4.2 Patch 02.

Have no clue if it's the same or altered, best use together with Modified Russian Filter Mod.
Just in case, this is an old Mod, have no clue.

Enjoy
Tobias

PS. just testing you read up properly, Cheers