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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Jets => Topic started by: Knochenlutscher on November 23, 2018, 07:33:04 AM

Title: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.2 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on November 23, 2018, 07:33:04 AM
This Mod was based on my own Request over some things I wished to have for a Me262
it took a long road for me from Antos release of his Pack to learn how to do all the stuff myself.

(https://i.postimg.cc/PqyHcStZ/Messerschmitt-Me-262-A1a-with-US-forces-near-Burgau-Germany-May-1945-01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9WXvFvK)

Modact Installs, 4.12, 4.09 whatever Install unsupported.


For BAT latest versions only!!!

1C/Stock Mesh Version


content:
+ Me-262 B.A.T. Fix (incremental)
content as SAS Me262 Ultimate Pack 2.1

Version 1. Default
Version 2. CrazyFlak Effects

+ Me-262 A-1a Jabo v.6 (optional)
collated Loadouts
functional EZ42 Gunsight
Greif Cockpit w. Fixes

+ Jumo 004B-1 FX (optional)
content as CrazyFlaks Effect Mod for Startup Flames

+ Jumo 004B-1 J67 Sounds (optional)
New Me262 Jumo Sounds, make sure to load before any Soundpack/VSM etc.

Installation:

+ Me-262 B.A.T. Fix (incremental)

+ Me-262 A-1a Jabo v.5 (optional)

+ Jumo 004B-1 FX (optional)

+ Jumo 004B-1 J67 Sounds (optional)

Download
https://www.mediafire.com/file/6aad3j1p3o7d0m4/%252B_Me-262_B.A.T._Fix.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/6aad3j1p3o7d0m4/%252B_Me-262_B.A.T._Fix.7z/file)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4r5qtnlzo5puejm/%252B_Me-262_A-1a_Jabo_v.6.2.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/4r5qtnlzo5puejm/%252B_Me-262_A-1a_Jabo_v.6.2.7z/file)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/qfndkvm733zhyxp/%252B_Jumo_004B-1_FX.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/qfndkvm733zhyxp/%252B_Jumo_004B-1_FX.7z/file)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1kdo6qubodc742m/%252B_Jumo_004B-1_J67_Sounds.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/1kdo6qubodc742m/%252B_Jumo_004B-1_J67_Sounds.7z/file)


For BAT latest versions only!!!

Better Mesh Version
!!! Don't intermix, don't mess it up...

content:

+ Me262 (incremental)
content as Barneseys Me262s Pack, comes with Air.ini entry!

+ Me-262 B.A.T. Fix (incremental)
content as SAS Me262 Ultimate Pack 2.1

Version 1. Default
Version 2. CrazyFlak Effects

+ Me-262 A-1a Jabo v.6 (optional)
collated Loadouts
static EZ42 Gunsight
Greif Cockpit w. Fixes

+ Jumo 004B-1 FX (optional)
content as CrazyFlaks Effect Mod for Startup Flames

+ Jumo 004B-1 J67 Sounds (optional)
New Me262 Jumo Sounds, make sure to load before any Soundpack/VSM etc.

Installation:

+ Me262 (incremental)

+ Me-262 B.A.T. Fix (incremental)

+ Me-262 A-1a Jabo v.6 (optional)

+ Jumo 004B-1 FX (optional)

+ Jumo 004B-1 J67 Sounds (optional)

Download

https://www.mediafire.com/file/agj6aha6uq5bl2w/%252B_Me262.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/agj6aha6uq5bl2w/%252B_Me262.7z/file)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ddf9my627ll0f5d/%252B_Me-262_B.A.T._Fix.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/ddf9my627ll0f5d/%252B_Me-262_B.A.T._Fix.7z/file)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/54u7urro2ss1ggf/%252B_Me-262_A-1a_Jabo_v.6.2.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/54u7urro2ss1ggf/%252B_Me-262_A-1a_Jabo_v.6.2.7z/file)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/2h020n82m40nkai/%2521_Jumo_004B-1_FX.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/2h020n82m40nkai/%2521_Jumo_004B-1_FX.7z/file)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/tjs4ubqoe1zkz03/%2521_Jumo_004B-1_J67_Sounds.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/tjs4ubqoe1zkz03/%2521_Jumo_004B-1_J67_Sounds.7z/file)

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Credits:
Code: [Select]
Classfiles, new 3D and testing by Anto
Addtional thanks to Cirx, Sani, GJE52 for parts from Me-262B mod
and Knochenlutscher for resources.
Special thanks to Crazyflak (Hakencruz Fix), Birdman (Hakencrux Fix and LODs)
and Twister (adjustable tailplane & EZ42) for your contributions to this version.
PA_Jeronimo - new 3D Fix.
SAS_Epervier for Java Guidance.
New 3-D, old Fixes - Barnesy and Ton414
New FM and Java Fix Gyro - Vasya/Aviaskins

Cockpit Credits:
Warning!!! Naked Lady picture free version, to common request in BAT.
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THIS IS A fully functional Gyro Gunsight.

YES, it's historical, and no, this will not have altered Cockpit here.
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Thanks to all who contributed in the Past to this:

Code: [Select]
Twister Me-262 HGII gyro-gunsight
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5859.0.html

Greif11//BRGDS Andrew
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28925.0.html

Knochenlutscher Me 262 tinted Pit-"Sunglass" (Dense Pimpin)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,43546.0.html
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: bomberkiller on November 23, 2018, 07:51:44 AM
Hallo Knoch,

wunderbar, Dein Me-Jabo läuft einwandfrei in meinem 4.10 & #DBW & Tigers UV3.

Danke auch für die toll aussehenden Skins!

Gruß, Gerhard  :)
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Piotrek1 on November 23, 2018, 08:41:30 AM
Great 8)! Thank you.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on November 23, 2018, 09:00:55 AM
Cool it works in DBW, will try ut myself.
I had a version incompatibillity to fight.
Didn't knew this workz now...
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: bomberkiller on November 23, 2018, 09:06:26 AM
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3623.msg661245.html#msg661245 (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3623.msg661245.html#msg661245)

 ;)
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on November 23, 2018, 10:05:26 AM
Wow, cool shots.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Mopat on November 26, 2018, 11:35:32 PM
Just a little idea:
-Never had a loadout with 24XR4M+2XWGr.21cm?
Only because i found some modell photo with this missile/rocket loadout. Not sure this is historical...
Thanks to the new/old bird! :)
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on November 27, 2018, 12:32:26 PM
Droptanks are I fictional on the Singleseaters.

Both systems together, haven't heard of.
Besides that they use the same Trigger, preferredly
you would like to see both fired actuated seperately from each other.
I can't implement that.

Kind Regards
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on November 27, 2018, 06:22:51 PM
A further Update will get us these nice FX back where they belong.

Best wishes
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: bomberkiller on November 28, 2018, 04:44:36 AM
 8)

 :)
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on December 01, 2018, 12:36:57 AM
OKay, the Effect Addon from the past is in the first Post.
Please try and give feedback

Happy Flying
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on December 03, 2018, 08:01:16 AM
Another Update is in the pipeline.

1. a tweaked(slightly faster) FM (optional)
2. compatibillity of the Startup FX Mod for Barnesys 3-D Models (optional)

50% done.

Will ship with Installation instructions and necessary pre-requisits to do.

Please be patient

Best wishes
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: bomberkiller on December 03, 2018, 08:46:47 AM
Quote
Please try and give feedback

Hallo Tobias,

großartig, herzlichen Dank. Läuft wunderbar in meinem 4.10 & #DBW & UV3!

Gruß, Gerhard  :)

Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: barber on December 03, 2018, 09:12:55 AM
Hi!

Works fine, thank you very much.

Cheers
Barber
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on December 03, 2018, 03:57:15 PM
Thanks for the heads up, that sounds, looks good...

Updates v.2 out, at Startup new Update it's still not perfect, I'm at it, the Hooks are not in place.
A tedious task.

In the meanwhile enjoy a FM I always wished for the Silber, that corelates with the NII-VVS and Veterans
description of the Aircrafts abillities. They are slightly atop of the Spring 1944 Rechlin Charts, although
it is common the quality of the Materials for Jumos mattered and later got worser. Sure the archaic production was another hint
on quality of the material assembled.
Since we are in a game, I can now pull throttle back and wink-wink to AI Mustangs or Yaks chasing me.
It's exactly what I saw we would need. So balance of Mood is reached, I will shut up from now.
Tweaked FM I see as what Veterans called a hot ride, for being less
defective and having best performance out of a row of similar assembled. Such a kite was rarety, but turned up
as a favorite ride if once detected. As commented by the Vets, if you were a capable pilot, such a lucky ride was
a
ObLt. Franz Stigler's "White 3" was such a hot ride, to the envy of the rest of JV44, until a moron Newcomer shot this kite up.
Even Galland expressed his high emotions when he flew this Kite a few times.

New Skin
I researched a lot the Jabo variant, another output was Kdo. Stamp, the about 20 kites that later got GPV-1 Bomb reflexsights
and comprised of A-1a variants attached the Bombracks, retaining all 4 Cannons. They tested air-to-air bombing with
a plethora of AB Containers, containing Fragmentation, incendiaries or general purpose composite explosives.
After use by Kdo. Stamp, the Unit got absorbed by JG7/Stab and retained it's Jabo(air-to-air) Trials,
which you remember in form of Wrgr.21 and R4M rockets used by the latter Unit.
E7+02 "White 12" is a early Jabo Trials Skin for your pleasure.

Now have phunn
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.2.1 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on December 03, 2018, 04:54:11 PM
Update v.2.1

Now has fixed Hooks for FX. Final RC.
Enjoy.....

Best wishes
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.2.1
Post by: Schwalbe262 on December 19, 2019, 11:14:19 PM
Hello! Just curious, do you know/think this mod will work with 4.13.4?
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.2.1 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: shahryar on December 20, 2019, 07:01:13 AM
Hello. yes, it works fine.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.2.2 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on March 21, 2020, 12:02:54 PM
A new Update is due, see first Post.
Both the Jabo and the Addon crude FlameJet FX Mod are updated.

I tackled Weapon Hooks and a deep insight testing of the crude Flame FX Mod.
At the latter I removed unnecessary classes, this way to keep it up to to date with BAT.
This should be sorted, was a bit long, sorry for the problems.
Don't simply overwrite, make sure to delete any previous Versions.

Best wishes
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.3.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on March 21, 2020, 05:31:25 PM
There it is, a larger Update with own Cockpit version.
V.3 is Final, find at first Post upgraded

Delete previous Versions completely, Install fresh...
Cheers
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.3.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Piotrek1 on March 22, 2020, 01:38:06 PM
Hello Tobias, Thank you for updates and 2 versions of the cockpit, I played only a few missions but so far the plane works very well in the game 8).
(https://i.postimg.cc/3RBhXPbs/Mar-22-2020-4-31-20-PM.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.3.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on March 22, 2020, 05:34:47 PM
Glad that it works Mate, Thanks for joining
Cheers
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.3.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Hans-Joachim Marseille on March 23, 2020, 12:58:02 AM
Thx a lot but I have one question concerning the mysterious "naked Lady" - whatever cockpit I choose I see nada of her. Could you enlighten me some more perhaps!? ;D
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.3.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on March 25, 2020, 05:37:21 PM
The Cockpit BAT 262 Singleseaters and my Cockpits are built from Greifs pit, came shipped with a custom picture.
We opted for removal in BAT lately, I agree to this and did precautiosly. I followed the old trend and now the clean Pits.


Nothing to worry about, it's just informational, good you asked.

Best wishes
Tobias

Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.4.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on March 27, 2020, 04:46:03 PM
New!!!  Update v.4 is due
Cockpit Classes and Files Fix that restores missing Turnbankindicator.
This isn't coded in stock or SAS Ultimate Pack Cockpits. It's an old Fix I found on my HD.
It has been adapted here.

Start a clean Install, as it is an incemental full update, avoid Copy & Paste.
Find a new Link in first Post

Cheers
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.4.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on March 31, 2020, 08:17:16 PM
This Mod is in a way that it brings back old features of the Ultimate Pack Version while running completely
independent from all Me262 Motherclasses, Slots Cockpit dependencies. This way it'll not interfere change things
in Base Modpacks.
This can build a base for Future Add-Ons, ... different FM Tests showed the features fully working, so
the Final stage is reached so far. I have nothing to add.
Have a nice day
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.4.0 (Final) [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: sturmbock on October 05, 2021, 08:59:40 AM
I just discovered this gem, thank you very much for sharing it with us.
 ]cheers[
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.4.0 (Final) [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on October 05, 2021, 10:48:59 AM
Glad you found them Sturmbock  :)

I have a Soundmod for it in the build, that is 95% ready.
Not a Remix or retune, but complete new Sounds for the Jumo 004,
they are closer to real, have depth, are highly audible.
I need to redo the Riedel Starter Sequence, on a oldie Meeting
I recorded one. Needs to be mixed up and prepared for my
Starting Sequence. My Buddy will restore the File, when Time permitts.

A last thing I want to achieve is a Mod that deletes the Headrest/Armored Plate,
that was a rarely used Feature, I dunno why 1C sticked to it. Need to get rid of that crap.

With these 2 missing Links they'll be complete. Stay tuned

Tobias

Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.4.0 (Final)
Post by: sturmbock on October 05, 2021, 02:59:22 PM
I fully understand what you say about the Headrest / Armored Plate, I've been looking at photos in my books and I see very few 262 with it. I remember that in 2007 I became so obsessed with the flat canopy of the Fw 190A-8 that I managed to adapt it with their hier.him, with the help of the people from the All Aircraft Simulations forum, of course.

I hope I don't fail this time when you release it :)

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.4.0 (Final) [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on November 03, 2021, 08:36:04 AM
The Jabo Cockpit is progressing slowly.
Removal of Headrest/Armored Plate in Cockpit/Internal View is complete.

We can enjoy atmospehere as in 90% of the Turbos that saw Service.
In other words, how it looked for real Pilots
The Me262 Cockpit was reknown for it's very good rear vision, even at critical areas,
in most airplanes you couldn't peak slightly below Tail. In a Turbo you can, due to
it's high peak Cockpit.

Known Bugs:
External Headplate cstill glued to Fuselage.
That part is a multimesh, I'm still learning to reassemble and properly import such things.
At Wingroots the seethrough Bubble can be dealt with. It's a smallCockpit Fix,
when I have final 3-D running.
3-D I'm still unsure, we have 3 different Geometries here. i.e. some old Effects are not fully functional, they went down after 4.12 Updates.
I remember some old stuff works in DBW, but in TFM or BAT it refused to work.
Must dive back into it.

Another thing I will setup is the Trials EKdo/EJG2 R24m in the duoble sized rocket Racks, not 24 but 48,
which was actually tested. The setup is fairly easy, just a shitload of coding.

Wil shift an intermediate Cockpit in a Upgraded Build.

Stay tuned
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.4.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on July 31, 2023, 12:10:09 PM
Done, after several years in the pipe, the Headrest is history.

I couldn't do it with stock 3-D, surely possible, but one of 2 instances was
headwrappingly not working.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pLFwxFSL/2023-07-31-19-46-53-702.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/87TKmjD2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Mpg9DZzM/2023-07-31-20-16-54-037.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZH0YhDp)

Best wishes
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.4.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Shessi on July 31, 2023, 01:38:18 PM
Great stuff T!

How can we get this next version?, thanks.

S
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.4.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on August 05, 2023, 10:42:36 AM
Links have to be updated. They are down for a short time.

Okay, the current Me262 B.A.T. glitches are finally solved:

Me262 Ultimate fully integrated
Canopy issue solved
Tailplane Trim working
Engine surge code working

this was critical and is a Hotfix working,  will sleep over it again,
and rehash all Classes and test twice last time, in case sth. pops up.


it paves the way to better 3-D version coming.
The new Better 3-D for this Mod has to be tested with the BAT/Motherclass Fix, if that runs fine I'll release asap.

Sorry for the Hickup, but I'm no Java Guru, this was really the hardest Java Nut in my whole Career here.
Easy Fix, when I got it, but really taking me 5 Years to establish.

Best wishes
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.4.0 [4.12] [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on August 06, 2023, 03:36:58 AM
Okay, Version 5 is online, ready for grab

Read the Instructions carefully, the BAT core code Fix comes in 2 versions clean and prepped for Crazyflak Effects.
Whatever core Code is "needed".
If you wanna hear real Me262 Sounds, from a restored Warbird make sure to load before any Soundmod/Victor Sound Mod.
This is a personal dedicated Mod, first saw light in 2014/2016, this is why I learned to Mod, to have all the cool
stuff, historical stuff collated. Actual Soundscapes and no Blue Flames.

I dunno who the Author of the no Blue Flames Mod was.

Note! This BAT core code Fix currently resides on 3 Me262 Singleseaters, in order to Fix BAT,
needs to be applied at all Singleseaters. If you're a Coder, capable to Help, give me a hand.


Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.5.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Shessi on August 06, 2023, 03:55:58 AM
Thanks again T.

Yes to the sounds, I've been messing around with the sound from the YT videos of the CAM Me262 with remade 004's, there are two, one with a start-up, and the second taxying.  And NO to the blue flame! lol ;) 

Have to agree with a better 3D.  The engines/wings/cockpit/tail and UC are excellent, it's the nose which the underneath curves up too high and is too pointed, also the canopy is too high. The older 262B two seater has a better nose, and the old 262A had a better canopy.

Sorry can't help with coding......

Cheers

Shessi
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.5.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on August 06, 2023, 06:45:21 AM
Small Note,
 the core BAT Fix Motherclass needs to be tested, I'm no Javaguru, I have 2 versions of it.
One is a 4.101m another cutout from UP3 Cassie.
Possibly this and the FM in Jabo might see a change in future. The FM from A1a would be an option, since
the core FM is Okay now. Right now we use the HGI speedy FM, it might too spicey.
But sorting that out is easy.

Yeah, these new Sounds I cutout from my FSX Me262 Addon, they are derived from the restored Bird at Messerschmitt Foundation.
I tinkered a lot, using Sounds from various Games, BF2/WW2 Mod, FSX Mods, other Sims.
But this piece really stands out amongst all. It blew me away, the immersion is incredible.
I hated these fancy Klimov or Pratt whatever Standins, that sounded to clean and not
like sth. rugged, imperfect.
One thing, I have a real Riedelstarter Soundsequence from a restored Riedel here.
Forget our first ancient Riedel Sound Mod, it's nothing like that, a Riedel has a unique Sound.
Like an old fuel driven Lawnmover or Chainsaw, but with more deep base.
But my Sound engineering Skills are limited.
At the time I made these Sounds to fit, got Help by a Sound producer,
my Buddy, who offered his Studio equipment.
Sadly the Riedel Sounds I got later. So they are left out.
Myself I can't mix such Sequence needed, my Buddy can.
But he is very buisy. I'll try to perfect this lil piece missing.

The FX was tailored by Crazyflak after the only known Video footage of Me262 Training Movie,
where they show the Startup Sequence, fuel flowing down like Magma.
The real J2 fuel was a dirty not modern Jet Fuel composite, just logic
to use a non-blue version on a coal fuel derivate.

In the meanwhile enjoy the Fixes by Anto, Crazyflak, Mike and others here.
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.5.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Sergent Pepper on August 12, 2023, 10:31:03 AM
Danke , sehr schön.
Ein richtige + füt IL2 1946.
Promo video. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBU-wx-086M
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.5.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on August 18, 2023, 08:47:22 AM
In patch 4.12.2, the crosshair dimmer does not drop down.  :-|
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.5.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on August 24, 2023, 02:10:38 AM
Hi Vasya,
Yeah, Bugging me since I moved to the BAT version.
Everything worked in DBW version, an ancient version which I never released
and thus got lost in the process of transferring to BAT.

The BAT code was hilarious.
Everything needed fixing, Me262 Anto Pack code, Cockpit, 3-D,...
But it's delicate Fixing, adding a snippet of code into Cockpit without breaking the
Glasshouse. Will try and see if I can do it.

Thanks for the reminder. A Dimmer working would be cool. :)

Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.5.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on August 29, 2023, 04:51:37 PM
You can give me the cockpit class you want to pull the code from,
 or a link to where there is a mod you are going to pull the class from.
 I'll try to insert the scope operation code into the Swallow's cockpit class.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.5.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on August 30, 2023, 03:58:32 AM
Hi Vasya, that would be awesome, Thank you for your Help.

I can prepare the files at the evening, when back home.

Best wishes
Tobias


Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.5.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on September 08, 2023, 07:18:10 PM
Hi Vasya, that would be awesome, Thank you for your Help.

I can prepare the files at the evening, when back home.

Best wishes
Tobias
Fixed beta:
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost.php?p=226220&postcount=9583
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.5.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 09, 2023, 02:00:14 AM
 ]notworthy[
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 09, 2023, 02:17:41 AM
With Vasyas Help we reached v.6 on this Stock version Mod,
it's a big leap for us. The historical Gyro in the regular Revi Mode.

I applied Vasyas Fix to the Mod. First Post updated.


The Barnesey 3-D Version will get this update too and hopefully see
the light soon.

Thanks Vasya and everyone for the Help

Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 09, 2023, 02:44:41 AM
2nd Barnesey Better 3-D Version online.
This is basically a BAT fixed version of Barneseys Me262 Pack, cods up running
and fixing codeside. So that it is fully integrated.

 ]help[
Nasty grab and go Installers...Warning to Users
don't mess it up, retain Folder Hierarchy as given, any Soundpacks if
used must load after the new proposal... ensuring it's fired up properly
Don't mix parts of the 2 Versions, stay clean, get it sorted.

 ]read2[
RTFM, they are not deco or Lametta, contain Info about Air.ini Lines,
if your Game crashes, you missed the RTFM.

Now chose your Version, go crazy

Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on September 11, 2023, 05:17:30 PM
Added:
speed limit 0.9 Mach.,
The cockpit canopy comes off at a speed of 200 km. at one o'clock.,
choice of 4 MG-151/20 guns.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZqbDQXvP5H2n2zncTYTqE97iyMGl5JjB/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0
Post by: Frankiek on September 11, 2023, 05:31:38 PM
I know that this has been debated at length but canopy coming off at a speed of 200km/h don't seem realistic to me
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0
Post by: Vasya on September 11, 2023, 07:06:44 PM
I know that this has been debated at length but canopy coming off at a speed of 200km/h don't seem realistic to me
I took the code for removing the cockpit cover from this mod: Me-262 Ultimate Pack v2.1
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0
Post by: Frankiek on September 12, 2023, 12:47:22 AM
Indeed I was hoping this could be revisited
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0
Post by: SAS~Storebror on September 12, 2023, 01:28:58 AM
I know that this has been debated at length but canopy coming off at a speed of 200km/h don't seem realistic to me
Just to be on the safe side: What would be a realistic speed in your opinion?

]cheers[
Mike
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 12, 2023, 01:56:41 AM
Quote
I took the code for removing the cockpit cover from this mod: Me-262 Ultimate Pack v2.1

Absolutely Okay.


Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Hubberranz on September 12, 2023, 11:00:19 AM
V.5 worked  in my 412.2 5.3 .

V.6 remains hopelessly soundless no matter what is tried:  ..downloading of sounds separately is known and tested.
 I'm outside of bat, so I will just leave it at that.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on September 12, 2023, 11:43:17 AM
V.5 worked  in my 412.2 5.3 .

V.6 remains hopelessly soundless no matter what is tried:  ..downloading of sounds separately is known and tested.
 I'm outside of bat, so I will just leave it at that.
Option
Me-262A-1a_Jabo
with all updates to code, sounds and weapons.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hh8KDcAAIqwG86jdo-ZHzr3cOx7r7rIY/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Hubberranz on September 13, 2023, 05:21:55 AM
I put the sounds in the ME_262A1AJABO FIX V-2.rar archive.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZqbDQXvP5H2n2zncTYTqE97iyMGl5JjB/view
Thank you Vasya. I now have the engines sounds back in V6 !   8)
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on September 13, 2023, 07:54:21 AM
I put the sounds in the ME_262A1AJABO FIX V-2.rar archive.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZqbDQXvP5H2n2zncTYTqE97iyMGl5JjB/view
Thank you Vasya. I now have the engines sounds back in V6 !   8)
I don’t know how the sounds of a jet engine can be applied to a piston engine V 6.
The link provided exactly the sounds for a jet engine.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Hubberranz on September 13, 2023, 11:08:55 AM
I don’t know how the sounds of a jet engine can be applied to a piston engine V 6.
The link provided exactly the sounds for a jet engine.
LoL.  Current "Me-262 A1a Jabo" mod is V.6.0 version.
..perhaps the translator is not working on all it's cylinders.  LoL  ]cheers[
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Hubberranz on September 13, 2023, 11:34:30 AM
I went for more strident at low rev on Vasya's  sounds:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/kmo1yhjmcas1me4/%2521_Me-262-A1a_V6%252C0_LowRevHigherPitch_sounds.7z/file

Note: ..this is also the TAXI sound at the end of a mission.

..you can restore these to their original sounds:  -HeS-11_1000.wav ,  --xHeS-11_1000.wav,  --xHeS-11_1000t.wav and  --xHeS-11_2000.wav

PS: This mod is true to the v6.0 version which uses Vasya sounds, but not so much for/by latter; otherwise Vasya's sounds may be used by else variants or other mods.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.0 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on September 13, 2023, 12:42:55 PM
Thank you!
Let users have a choice of which jet engine sounds to listen to in the mission.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.1 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 15, 2023, 08:38:39 AM
Version Rollback 1.6.1


FM default BAT A-1a and Revi (no tiltable Sun Filter) B.A.T. Users only!


Best wishes
Tobias


Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.1 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on September 15, 2023, 01:46:27 PM
All is working fine now for me too. Thank ye. :)
I'm happy for you.
I suggested high-quality fixes for the mod.
Users should always have a choice:
drive a Trabi or an Audi.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.1 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 16, 2023, 01:30:27 AM
That's true, so cool for the Trabi.  ;D

An Update is in the pipe, working Gyro code.
Spent 2 Days, endless trying.
This is the Better 3-D version. When I have it in Stock version,
you can enjoy Ray Ban EZ42 tilting.

(https://i.postimg.cc/L5XkMbvz/EZ42-Gyro.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jwpnHvp5)
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.2 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 16, 2023, 03:14:53 AM
Alright,
 Version 1.6.2. EZ42 function implemented
I hope the code works, I never knew how to use those Gyros (not the greek dish).
So you're about to test.
If sth. is going Bummer, I doubt I can Fix, the code is Scheiße, than we rollback to previous version.

Have a nice Day
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.1 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on September 16, 2023, 08:13:18 AM
That's true, so cool for the Trabi.  ;D

An Update is in the pipe, working Gyro code.
Spent 2 Days, endless trying.
This is the Better 3-D version. When I have it in Stock version,
you can enjoy Ray Ban EZ42 tilting.
I am very glad that you were able to insert the code of the sight into the classes,
 and now you can independently assemble classes for different mods.
Please tell me! - What class of plane did you get the code from?
----------------
“Actually, I can see from what class and why.”  8)
It would be nice to also add review code to the cockpit class,
 and adjust the camera position in the mesh for the convenience of users.
I also think that the gyro sight code from the Ultimate pack will be better.
I wish you good success in your modding!
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.2 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 16, 2023, 12:03:18 PM
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5859.0.html (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5859.0.html)

Taken from Twisters Me262 Mod for 4.10, Me262A-1a.

A final step is cod creation and R/L Riedel Sound implementation. Then it is over, all I ever wanted.
Me262 Pack integration is here in this Pack, my late Jabo in 2 versions.
If you want grab it, create sth.

Greetings
Tobi
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.2 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on September 16, 2023, 04:47:14 PM
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5859.0.html (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5859.0.html)

Taken from Twisters Me262 Mod for 4.10, Me262A-1a.

A final step is cod creation and R/L Riedel Sound implementation. Then it is over, all I ever wanted.
Me262 Pack integration is here in this Pack, my late Jabo in 2 versions.
If you want grab it, create sth.

Greetings
Tobi
Thank you very much for the clarification!
The same code is in the cockpit of the Ta-152.
In BAT, the ME-262 class is based on the FLAMEJET_SCHEME2 class.
Unfortunately, I don’t have it. This class is probably from the latest BAT updates.
-------------------------------
The gyro sight code in your mod fits well with realistic navigation, the code for which is also in the default cockpit classes for the Me-262.
I inserted an earlier code for the gyro sight, but it is more complete... let's just say - I like it better.
Let users have choice.
Since I have different effects in my fashion folder, some of which I created myself, when I start the engines I have a small red flame. And I also selected the sounds for the engine to suit my own liking.
In my version, Jabot is decoupled from other Me-262 mods, so it can work well outside of BAT.
I can’t say anything about the new sounds - I didn’t quite understand your idea.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.2 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 19, 2023, 06:21:02 AM
Hi Vasya,

The Sound is 90% perfect. My Buddy mixed and prepped the Files.
I couldn't get the Sounds converted.
At the time we sat in his Studio I lacked proper Riedel Start Sequences.
Will ask him if he's willing to help me once again on recreating the "pre_start.wav".
That file is currently unrealistic, listen carefully, that is a Dentist Drill Tool, not a Riedel...

When I have pre_start ready final touch up is creating the cod File, then I'm done

Best wishes
Tobi
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.2 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on September 20, 2023, 02:05:32 PM
Thanks for the answer!
And another question:
how can you make it so that in the default Me-262 a flame appears in the nozzles of the engines at start-up?
Is it necessary to add additional hooks to the engines?
I have a large package of effects files installed for patch 4.12.2.
(Дякую за відповідь!
І ще питання:
як можна зробити так, щоб у дефолтному Ме-262 з' являлося полум' я в соплі двигунів при старті?
Це в двигуни треба додавати додаткові хуки?
Великий пакет файлів еффектів в мене втановлений для патча 4.12.2.)
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.2 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 21, 2023, 07:20:38 AM
That's taken from a very old SAS Mod, called Crazyflaks Me262 Engine Startup flame Mod
or sth similar. I can't find the original post. It's a Mod I use from day one and endorse everytime.
It was a Me262 and Bf110 Startup Flames Mod.

Warning!!!
Startup Flames plus my personal non blue J-2 Jet Smoke.
I never used a large Effect Compilation, here you have to look how to integrate properly.

Code: [Select]
!                  Jumo 004B-1 FX
Java integration needed, Effect Classes and Motherclasses.
At Motherclasses beware, do not use outdated Motherclasses, or you
miss Cockpit Fixes.
Look up the collated Motherclasses here, they are collated.

Code: [Select]
FLAME12_SCHEME2a.class
FLAMEJET_SCHEME2.class
ME_262.class
ME_262B.class <<<< not in part of this Mod

Code: [Select]
// Referenced classes of package com.maddox.il2.objects.air:
//            FLAMEJET_SCHEME2, TypeFighter, TypeBNZFighter, PaintScheme,
//            Scheme2, Aircraft, AircraftLH

public class ME_262B extends com.maddox.il2.objects.air.FLAMEJET_SCHEME2
    implements com.maddox.il2.objects.air.TypeFighter, com.maddox.il2.objects.air.TypeBNZFighter

Me262B class if you need, tell me.


Exactly, its to be planted with such Hooks.
These you can find here
Code: [Select]
+ Me262
You need to add such stuff to the Engines.
Engine1_D0.msh
Code: [Select]
[Hooks]
_Engine1Smoke <BASE>
_Engine1ES_02 <BASE>
_Engine1ES_01 <BASE>
_Engine1EF_01 <BASE>
_Engine1EFS_01 <BASE>
_Engine1EFS_02 <BASE>
_Clip18 <BASE>
_Clip11 <BASE>

[HookLoc]
-1 2.71003e-006 0 -2.71003e-006 -1 0 0 0 1 0.797049 0.64884 -0.205883 //_Engine1Smoke
-1 2.71003e-006 0 -2.71003e-006 -1 0 0 0 1 -1.40208 0.49565 -0.469033 //_Engine1ES_02
-1 2.71003e-006 0 -2.71003e-006 -1 0 0 0 1 -1.40379 0.60347 -0.469033 //_Engine1ES_01
-1 2.71003e-006 0 -2.71003e-006 -1 0 0 0 1 -1.48829 0.54363 -0.469033 //_Engine1EF_01

-1 2.71003e-006 0 -2.71003e-006 -1 0 0 0 1 -1.48829 0.54363 -0.669033 //_Engine1EFS_01
-1 2.71003e-006 0 -2.71003e-006 -1 0 0 0 1 -1.48829 0.54363 -0.669033 //_Engine1EFS_02

0.0 1 0 -1 0.0 0 0 0 1 -1.45992 0.53434 -0.826813 //_Clip18
0.0 1 0 -1 0.0 0 0 0 1 2.32766 0.53275 -0.864813 //_Clip11

It's a very old, but really kick ass small Mod.
You can add to every Jumo carrying Me262s. I just didn't had nerves to include into all.

Greetings
Tobias
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.2 [bat waw]
Post by: Vasya on September 21, 2023, 02:02:26 PM
Thank you very much for the clarification!
Unfortunately class FLAMEJET_SCHEME2.class
I have no.
Title: Re: Me 262 A-1a/Jabo with revised Loadouts v.6.2 [bat waw]
Post by: Knochenlutscher on September 21, 2023, 04:44:26 PM
 class FLAMEJET_SCHEME2.class is inside + Me-262 B.A.T. Fix (incremental) with prepped Me262.class (with Turnbank Fix)
and example 3-Ds to testfire. In 2 Versions, Stock and Better 3-D.
ready to go

Check your PM, I'm behind my own schedule for applying this to all Me262s. My other Me262 Mods still await a bit
conversion. When I have done the necessary fiddling I'll post everything accordingly.

Greetings
Tobi