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Title: Bf-109 "L" Series v22102020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: FL2070 on May 10, 2019, 12:53:42 PM
Bf-109 "L" Series
v22102020



(https://i.postimg.cc/26D9k6pT/image.png)

- CONTENTS -
Bf-109L-1, 1945: The first of the Bf-109L series, set at around June of 1945. Notable changes from the Bf-109K include the more powerful (fictional) DB606A engine, and the replacement of the MG131 machineguns over the nose with MG151/20 cannons. The L-1 has many loadout options, including MK103 and MK108 gunpods along with a bomb or the eternal Type D droptank.
Bf-109L-1/B, 1945: This is a Jabo variant of the L-1, capable of carrying up to twice the bombload of a normal Bf-109. For tankbusting, it carries an MK 103 Motorkanone loaded with an AP belt. Similarly to the L-3, the L-1/B has extra armor plating, increasing its survivability against AA and interceptors at the cost of higher weight.
Bf-109L-2, 1945: The L-2 is a development of the L-1, supposed to have gone into service in October or November of 1945. In the L-2 series, you will find the DB606B, and the new "MK 208" cannon, and improvement over the MK 108, but it didn't have provisions for carrying bombs.
Bf-109L-2 Late, 1946: Introduced around March 1946, the later series L-2s were fitted with lighter airframes, allowing less weight for better takeoff and climb performance, and the Askania EZ-42 gyroscopic gunsight. In response to complaints from squadrons flying earlier L-2 models, the L-2 brought back the ability to fit bombs.
Bf-109L-3 Zerstorer, 1946: The L-3, staying true to its name "Zerstorer" (destroyer in English), had options for much more powerful guns than any other 109L, including dual MK 352B (fictional) gunpods under the wings, or MK 214A heavy cannons. The L-3 was also the first of the series to use the MK 213 as a possible nose cannon, and it had heavier armor than other Bf-109Ls. Despite the numbering, the L-3 was flying before the later series L-2s, and was put into service around January 1946.
Bf-109L-4, 1946: The L-4, which started service in July 1946, has the DB606C1 engine, and has noticeably less options for loadouts than other Bf-109Ls, mostly due to its more standardised set of cannons: two MG 213 20mm cannon over the nose, and one MK 213 30mm "Motorkanone" (nose cannon). The L-4's cockpit, like the L-2's, was fitted with the EZ-42 sight instead of the ReVi-16. The L-4 could also fit MG 213 or MK 213 gunpods under the wings, along with, under the fuselage, an SC250 or SC500, a Type D Droptank, or an X-4 wire-guided rocket.
Bf-109L-4C3, 1946: The L-4C3, supposedly introduced around August 1946, is the true monster of the Bf-109Ls. It boasts the usage of the ludicrously powerful DB606C3 engine, with an incredible 2000 horsepower. In all other respects, though, it was the same as the Bf-109L-4.

MK208 machine cannon: The MK208 is a fictional development of the MK108 that boasts a slightly higher rate of fire, a slightly higher muzzle velocity, and more accurate shooting.
MK352B machine cannon: The MK352B is another fictional weapon, similar to the MK214A but with a higher rate of fire and less powerful ammunition. Because of the similar weights and initial projectile velocities of the weapons, the MK352B is much more difficult to fire owing to its extreme recoil.
MK103 (AP belt) machine cannon: The name says it all. This gun was made speficially for the L-1/B, and is basically a bog-standard MK 103 with no explosive charge. To increase the AP effect of the gun as opposed to the standard explosive belt of the standard MK 103, the internal property of the caliber was increased slightly.

- CHANGELOG -
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- CHANGES IN v22102020 -
* Drag curves tuned to decrease speed at low altitude for all models. This is because, for instance, the L-4C3 could attain 800 km/h at sea level, which is ridiculous. All models now have more "realistic" performance at sea level. (see [Polares]CxMin_0 entries in FMDs)
* Engine compressor curves tuned to decrease speed at high altitude for all models. This is because the L-1 could easily exceed 400 km/h IAS at 10km, which is ridiculous. As engine power generally increases as model numbers progress, you can imagine the speeds attainable by the L-4C3 with its 2000 HP monster. With both of these changes, I hope to make the planes less simply meme god planes, while still retaining their (obvious) superior German Engineering™.

 - CHANGES IN v02052020 -
* Fixed L-1 and L-2 late being unable to drop bombs.

 - CHANGES IN v01052020 -
* L-1B skin folder added with all the standard Bf-109L skins.
* Drag levels changed to vary maximum speed between models, also resulting in an over maximum speed increase in level flight. This will result in a very noticeable change when flying level. (see [Polares]CxMin_0 entries)
* Radial drag levels changed to affect energy loss (see [Polares]parabCxCoeff_0 and [Polares]parabCxCoeff_1)
* Color of EZ42's gyro ring points changed to be slightly brighter and more yellow.
* Reorganized loadouts for L-1, L-2 early, and L-2 late.
* Changed ammo counts for L-4, L-4C3, and L-3.
* Included decompiled cod and compilation information in source code.
* Made mixes of guns which were previously unique to L-2 late common to L-1, L-2 early, and L-2 late.
* Fixed inconsistent number of rounds in MK208 Motorkanone in L-2 early and L-2 late.

 - CHANGES IN v30042020 -
* L-4 not having EZ42 gunsight fixed.
* Minor adjustments to engines' optimal effeciency speed.

 - CHANGES IN v29042020 -
* All Bf-109Ls now have a standalone cockpit.
* Bf-109L-2 (late), Bf-109L-4, and Bf-109L-4C3 now have the EZ-42 gyroscopic gunsight.
* Ammo counter function changed: left counter displays cowling gun ammo, right counter displays Motorkanone ammo.
* Included Bf-109L mod's source code.
* Fix error in readme instructing users to add an erroneous plane.properties line.
* Changed Bf-109L-2 early from DB606A to DB606B.
* Slight modifications to plane.properties (Bf-109L-2 Early) and weapons.properties (L-4 and L-4C3).

 - CHANGES IN v28042020 -
* Transitioned loadouts to cod format to increase compatibility with B.A.T.
* Added Bf-109L-1/B.
* All Bf-109Ls now have fully functioning opening canopies.
* All Bf-109Ls' controls now work better at high speeds.
* All Bf-109Ls now have aileron and rudder trim in addition to elevator trim.

 - CHANGES IN v18042020 -
* Fixed broken droptank loadouts in L-3.

 - CHANGES IN v17042020 -
* New 3D model for all Bf-109Ls derived from JapanCat's Bf-109 3D, and...
* All Bf-109Ls now have four-bladed propellors.
* New default skins.
* Included skinpack for all Bf-109Ls derived from Bf-109G-14 skins from the B.A.T. skinpack.
* Changed DB 606's sound preset to DB-603_Series instead of DB-600_Series. If you're using VSM, this will result in a pretty big change.
* Bf-109L-3 has increased armor strength and weight resulting in worse performance, but better survivability.
* Fixed weapons.properties error in Bf-109L-3 (U2 modification was listed as U1 when combined with other modifications)
* Modified weapons.properties default loadout name for all Bf-109L versions L-1 through L-3.
* Changed which 109Ls use which type of DB606: L1 and L2 use DB606A, L2(late) and L3 use DB606B. L4 and L4C3 use DB606C1 and DB606C3 respectively.

 - CHANGES IN v28022020 -
* L-4 and L-4C3 able to carry MG213 (20mm) gunpods. (previously only MK213 (30mm) gunpods loadouts existed)
* L-4 and L-4C3 empty loadout causing "Mission Loading Error: Null" fixed.
* L-3 new loadout options with MK214 nose cannon and MK352B gunpods, or with MK213/30 nose cannnon and MK352B gunpods. All loadout options also now have droptank variants.
* Default L-3 Motorkanone is now MK352B instead of MK208.
* Decreased the speed and accuracy of the MK352B slightly. The gun is still powerful and accurate, but it was lazer-like before.
* Fixed incorrect weapon hooks (for gunpods) leading to very odd looking placement of gun flashes. This fix is especially noticeable in the L-3 and L-4 series '109Ls.
* Includes base package of the classfiles of MG213 and MK213 guns to remove dependency on czk's Me-410s.
* Removed registering of many unused weapon slots for all series Bf-109Ls.
* New plane.properties entry for Bf-109L-2 late.
* Readme includes information about when Bf-109Ls were supposedly introduced, and information about the new fictional weapons.
* L-4 able to carry a single Type D droptank.
* Note that some of the weapon loadout names of the L-4 (and, therefore, the L-4C3) have been changed, but the game's code for them has stayed the same. This is because I wished to change the names of the X-4 modification to be U1 instead of R3 without breaking missions made for older versions of the Bf-109L mod. R3 has been made the name of the droptank modification.
* Redone many weapons.properties entries to make the spacing more "stock-like".

 - CHANGES IN v10052019 -
* Redone all loadouts and weapons.properties entries.
* L-4 and L-4C3 able to use X-4 rocket.
* Underwing gunpods now respond to the gunpods on/off button.
* Added skin folders and voids for all 109L.
* 109L uses correct era of german markings (1945).
* Guns over 20mm in size  can no longer be used as the guns over the nose.

- DOWNLOADS -
Download v22102020 (https://www.mediafire.com/file/0c4ti4quh6nkppe/BF109L_22102020.rar/file) (latest version)

Old versions:
Download v10052019 (https://www.mediafire.com/file/3izi6hz7r8hcl6u/BF109L.rar/file)
Download v28022020 (https://www.mediafire.com/file/zduhfydcb1sf4r8/BF109L_28022020.rar/file)
Download v18042020 (https://www.mediafire.com/file/5xlqtungoytviw5/BF109L_18042020.rar/file)
Download v28042020 (https://www.mediafire.com/file/je8sjgi7h82q8rf/BF109L_28042020.rar/file)
Download v30042020 (https://www.mediafire.com/file/v4gdbzmgjzkxce1/BF109L_30042020.rar/file)
Download v02052020 (https://www.mediafire.com/file/wpw69dmyxlf7ad3/BF109L_02052020.rar/file)

Disclaimer: everything in this mod is, of course, complete fiction.

- REDBARON'S EXPANSION -

There is an expansion for this mod made by forum user redbaron96, adding three new models and bringing the set into 1947. See here: [LINK] (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=68947.msg751269;topicseen#msg751269).

- CREDITS -

1C/Maddox games for the original Bf 109 model.
JapanCat for the Bf 109 3D, which this mod is based off of.
Der Wurstenfuchs' Bf 109 cockpits were used in this mod.
Epervier and western0221 can also take a good chunk of credit for this mod, because they helped me to code it in the WIP thread (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=50701.0).
KingTiger503 and H.-J. Marseille helped fix compatibility errors.
Venator77 and KingTiger503 helped find errors in the readme.
Credits also go to the original creators of the skins—I still don't know who made them.

Entries for air.ini, plane.properties, and weapons.properties are included in the download. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Tute on May 10, 2019, 07:22:17 PM
Thanks, I love fictional stuff! Works well on my 4.12.2 SAS modact 5.30 version.
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: KingTiger503 on May 10, 2019, 08:42:48 PM
You can put the BAT Mark, It Works Flawless.
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: bomberkiller on May 11, 2019, 01:32:38 AM
Thank you very much!

All Bf-109L run flawlessly in my old but huge IL-2 v.4.10.1 & DBW bld. 1.71 & Tiger's UV3!

Best regards, Gerhard  :)
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s)
Post by: dsawan on May 26, 2019, 05:50:45 PM
This bird rocks in 4.13.4 modded. Any ide of what skinpacks to use with it? or is one in wip for it?
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: FL2070 on May 26, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
You can use any skins for any Bf-109E and later by copying them from their respective skin folders into the Bf-109L-1, Bf-109L-2, etc... skin folders, but because the Bf-109L is fictional, there are no true historical skins to make for it. There might be a skinner out there willing to make skins for the Bf-109L series, maybe you can ask around. I would even make them myself if I could skin worth a rat's toss...  ::(  :P
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: rkalhorn109 on June 15, 2019, 11:21:03 PM
Thanks for this wonderful mod!  Works perfectly in 4.12, but I'm getting this problem in DBW. These "shadows" disappear when I press Toggle Gunsight, then reappear when I go back to normal cockpit view.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/213nlvd.jpg)
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s)
Post by: Vampire_pilot on June 15, 2019, 11:42:48 PM
IIRC these mods simply use cockpits of existing 109 slots.
They bring just the slots, FMs and loadouts.

So you should have this effect in late 109s (K probably...) all over?  It's most likely nothing that comes with this mod but some other 109 related mod incompatibility in your install.
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on June 16, 2019, 10:27:03 AM
Maybe the 109Ls could get into BAT in the SWOTL section in 3.7, even though they're fictional?
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s)
Post by: rkalhorn109 on June 16, 2019, 11:20:56 AM
IIRC these mods simply use cockpits of existing 109 slots.
They bring just the slots, FMs and loadouts.

So you should have this effect in late 109s (K probably...) all over?  It's most likely nothing that comes with this mod but some other 109 related mod incompatibility in your install.

I'm seeing this effect only with the 109L.  But I agree that the mod itself can't be the source of the problem, so I will selectively disable certain other mods in my DBW install to find out what's causing it.
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: Pivoyvo on June 17, 2019, 08:12:18 AM
Thank You for these really great Planes
(https://i.postimg.cc/HxX09kkZ/01472q002-xxx.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Ppf8thZY)
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: shashadra on September 17, 2019, 04:12:43 AM
Lovely planes! Cheers!
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: TheSublimeGoose on February 26, 2020, 07:20:50 PM
Amazing aircraft, really incredible work.

However, could we get some explanation as to what the Mk 352B cannons are? How do they differ from Mk 214 cannons?
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on February 26, 2020, 07:32:53 PM
MK352B cannon is a fictional cannon invented by me with a higher rate of fire than MK214 but less powerful rounds and much higher recoil leading to high difficulty of firing. They are presumed to have been designed as an easier to use weapon similar to the MK214.

Point taken though. I've added information about the new weapons in the main post.
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: TheSublimeGoose on February 26, 2020, 07:38:25 PM
Ahh, thank you so much for the explanation! So they’re 37mm cannons? Slightly less PETN content than 214 shells?

Cheers! :)
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on February 26, 2020, 07:39:47 PM
Something like that. I designed them around how effective they were in game, not with the idea of an actual shell in mind. I guess the caliber of the 352B would range from 35-40mm, so yes, 37mm would work. They do act a lot like the NS-37.
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: TheSublimeGoose on February 26, 2020, 07:42:43 PM
I understand!

Do you have any more super-props like this in the works? I’d love to see the Ta 152, my favorite aircraft, receive this treatment. Especially the high-altitude variant.
Title: Re: Bf-109L (fictional late war Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on February 26, 2020, 07:52:56 PM
Unfortunately, I have no idea how to 3D mod. The only thing I can do is work with what's already there, so with something like the Ta-152H-1, all I'd be able to do is make a modified version with a bunch of weird cannon loadouts, as there's no "hook" or point in the 3D model for me to place a pylon with an X-4 or a bomb or something in the loadouts.

Other than that, someone's already made turbo boosted Ta152s with more varied weapons, but they're on a different website that SAS doesn't have a history of friendly relations with.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v28022020
Post by: FL2070 on February 28, 2020, 10:35:20 AM
Bf-109L mod has been updated to version v28022020. Check the first post for details.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v28022020 [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Piotrek1 on February 28, 2020, 01:13:08 PM
Works smoothly in my Vp modpack, Thank You, dirtbloxxMC.

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Bf-109L v28022020 [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: shahryar on February 29, 2020, 02:46:52 AM
Hello FL2070 / dirtbloxxMC and thank you for this very interesting mod specially those MG 213s.
DRRRRRRRR.  :shooting_banana: :shooting_banana: :shooting_banana:
i found some pictures of a bf 109 L model with bubble canopy and four bladed prop via google images. i dont know how to post those pictures here. you probably have seen them yourself.
i'd like to ask is there a plan to update the 3D model of this mod to something like those photos?
Title: Re: Bf-109L v28022020
Post by: FL2070 on February 29, 2020, 09:19:58 AM
Unfortunately, I have no idea how to 3D mod.

If I could, I would.  :(
Title: Re: Bf-109L v28022020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Hans-Joachim Marseille on February 29, 2020, 10:54:40 AM
Nice work - thx to all involved. :)
Title: Re: Bf-109L v28022020
Post by: shahryar on February 29, 2020, 01:22:52 PM
Unfortunately, I have no idea how to 3D mod.

If I could, I would.  :(
Hope someone would do the job one day.
but your work is amazing man. even without that 3D.
thank you again and others involved.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v17042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on April 17, 2020, 10:44:12 AM
New version: v17042020. Check first post for details.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v17042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: bomberkiller on April 17, 2020, 11:05:56 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/k1JjSz8/Bf-109-L-4-C3-bk.png)

Thank you very much!  8)

Gerhard                            (https://i.ibb.co/khTPgtX/Haegar-Hauwegden-Humpen.png)

Title: Re: Bf-109L v17042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Hans-Joachim Marseille on April 17, 2020, 11:14:32 AM
Thx for the big update! Good work!  :)
Title: Re: Bf-109L v17042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: KingTiger503 on April 17, 2020, 10:40:48 PM
FL- I am Investigate that Gun pods bombs and X-4 are Missing, I have Photos are taken, No logs are found


(https://i.postimg.cc/k4znb58f/2020-04-18-04-50-18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Fdb5tNTL)

I cannot Tell what did I Expect it,

Can you Investigate Thanks.


Best Regards KT503

Title: Re: Bf-109L v17042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Piotrek1 on April 18, 2020, 08:34:18 AM
Hi FL, at the beginning I would like to Thank You again for the idea and making this great package of airplanes 8), I tested it today and the only problem I encountered can be seen in the screenshots below, I also checked other variants of BF-109L , but in my case the problem concerns only the Bf-109L-3 Zerstorer (my favorite) and only these two variants of armament. I'm using Vp modpack
(https://i.postimg.cc/vZfL2J4P/Apr-18-2020-12-00-25-PM.png) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/63jdGwPQ/Apr-18-2020-12-00-53-PM.png) (https://postimages.org/)

Ps. As I mentioned before I liked the L-3 Zerstorer variant very much, I would have a small suggestion (just a suggestion nothing binding), unless it would be very difficult to do so, I mean to equip the L-3 Zerstorer variant with a fuel tank originally designed for the Bf-109G-10 Nachtjäger version, the only problem is that we do not have such a fuel tank in the game :-X.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VkpFLXhV/Bf-109-G-10-Nacht-Jager-a.png) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/SQPLG6SN/Bf-109-G-10-Nacht-Jager-B.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Bf-109L v17042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on April 18, 2020, 09:23:43 AM
FL- I am Investigate that Gun pods bombs and X-4 are Missing, I have Photos are taken, No logs are found

[Screenshot of Bf-109L-4C3 with gunpod where X-4 should be]

I have tried all loadouts on the L-4C3, and I am unable to reproduce that issue. Maybe I've missed something—exactly which loadout were you using in that screenshot?



...the problem concerns only the Bf-109L-3 Zerstorer (my favorite) and only these two variants of armament.

[Screenshots of broken loadouts R5U1 and R5U2 on Bf-109L-3]

I have this in my own game too:
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwhcJBjF/image.png)
Expect a fix within the next hour.

... I would have a small suggestion (just a suggestion nothing binding), unless it would be very difficult to do so, I mean to equip the L-3 Zerstorer variant with a fuel tank originally designed for the Bf-109G-10 Nachtjäger version, the only problem is that we do not have such a fuel tank in the game :-X.

[Images of Bf-109G-10 with very large droptank]

Unfortunately, I cannot create such a droptank, as I cannot create 3D models. The four-bladed propeller was made by copying the model of the propeller from the Bf-109K-14, and wasn't made by me. It was made by JapanCat.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v17042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Piotrek1 on April 18, 2020, 09:41:27 AM
anyway, Thank you for answering, and your very hard work you have doing with this project 8).

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Bf-109L v17042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on April 18, 2020, 10:25:47 AM
New version: v18042020. Check the first post for details.

Special note about this version: because the changes from v17042020 consist of only a single file, there is a patch available for people with v17042020, so you don't have to download the entire mod.

Because v17042020 no longer has any reason to exist, its download link has been removed.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v17042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Piotrek1 on April 18, 2020, 11:38:45 AM
Thanks a lot for the fix,FL, everything went back to normal after it was installed 8).

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Bf-109L v17042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: KingTiger503 on April 20, 2020, 07:51:07 PM
Hmmmm, the BAT version, when I check out, its all the same, you can investigate further, you can ask Vampire for further.


Best Regards KT503
Title: Re: Bf-109L v18042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on April 28, 2020, 11:45:48 AM
New version: v28042020, adding Bf-109L-1/B, fully working open canopies, and fixing bugs present when attempting to install over BAT's older 109L mod version.

Thanks to KingTiger503 and H.-J. Marseille for pointing out the BAT issue, they have been added to the credits section at the bottom of the post.

S~ and enjoy!
Title: Re: Bf-109L v18042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: Venator77 on April 28, 2020, 05:45:29 PM
Good update. Also, to those copying the BAT style plane.properties of the Bf-109L-1/B from the readme, make sure to remove the forward slash as that is a typo.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v18042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: KingTiger503 on April 29, 2020, 04:54:02 AM
Thanks FL but the Bf-109L-1B Plane Properties,

Code: [Select]
Bf-109L-1/B             Mdtt. Bf109L1/B, 1945
Not Work,

When I Remove it the / thing,

Code: [Select]
Bf-109L-1B             Mdtt. Bf109L1/B, 1945
It Works

And Thanks for the BAT Issue for the Loadouts, Thank you FL


Best Regards KT503
Title: Re: Bf-109L v18042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Hans-Joachim Marseille on April 29, 2020, 05:22:31 AM
Thx for the new updates!  :)
Title: Re: Bf-109L v18042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Piotrek1 on April 29, 2020, 07:58:35 AM
Thank you very much for the update FL 8), I tested it yesterday, no problems, everything works fine, the effects after hitting the heaviest caliber are astonishing, even the damage to the ship comes very easily :).
just one thought, it would be great if we could adopt this mod for L-series aircraft:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=50576.0

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Bf-109L v18042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on April 29, 2020, 08:15:18 AM
Thx for the new updates!  :)
You are welcome! :)

... to those copying the BAT style plane.properties of the Bf-109L-1/B from the readme, make sure to remove the forward slash as that is a typo.
Thanks FL but the Bf-109L-1B Plane Properties, ... Not work
Yes, the readme is sadly mistaken... that will be fixed in the next update.

it would be great if we could adopt this mod for L-series aircraft: [link to Bf-109 prop texture mod]
To implement that mod, find the Bf-109K-14 folder in 3do/plane/ and copy the contents of that folder to the 3do/plane/Bf-109L folder included in my mod. (make sure to backup the old Bf-109L folder) That should do the trick.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v18042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Piotrek1 on April 29, 2020, 11:38:27 AM
Thank you for the advice, I tried to do as you wrote but I was only partially successful, after copying files from K-14 something like this appeared:
(https://i.postimg.cc/wj3dV94z/Apr-29-2020-2-58-43-PM.png) (https://postimg.cc/rD6by2LZ)
Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Bf-109L v18042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on April 29, 2020, 11:49:08 AM
That doesn't seem very good. Apparently the author of this mod forgot that the K-14 has a four-bladed propellor...

Looks to me like that mod is not compatible with Bf-109L. Sorry.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v18042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Piotrek1 on April 29, 2020, 12:03:47 PM
everything else works, so I can use them without this mod.

Thank you once again,

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Bf-109L v29042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on April 29, 2020, 12:48:30 PM
New version v29042020 adding EZ42 gyroscopic gunsight to L-2 late, L-4, L-4C3, also with slight changes to FMs and properties files entries.

Bad plane.properties for Bf-109L-1/B fixed thanks to Venator77 and KingTiger503.

S~ and enjoy!
Title: Re: Bf-109L v29042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: KingTiger503 on April 30, 2020, 10:01:15 AM
Thanks FL, your the Best, I hope a New Fighter Like Bf-109L-4C3, a New L-5 and L-5 Ace mod might do for this.


Great, now I go Hunting P and F-51s and P-47s.

That Bf-109 needs a Night Fighter


Best Regards KT503
Title: Re: Bf-109L v30042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on April 30, 2020, 11:30:35 AM
Version v30042020 uploaded, fixing L-4 not having EZ42 gunsight as it should. v2904020 has been deprecated and is no longer available for download.

S~ and enjoy!

a New L-5 and L-5 Ace mod might do for this.

What would the L-5 be?
Title: Re: Bf-109L v30042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: KingTiger503 on April 30, 2020, 08:03:23 PM
Bf-109L-5 and the Bf-109L-5 ACE MOD of course, with Advanced Engine More speed more armaments, and Heavy Armor.


Best Regards KT503
Title: Re: Bf-109L v30042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: Venator77 on May 01, 2020, 05:57:26 AM
L-5 should have the homing X-4 missiles.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v30042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13]
Post by: Piotrek1 on May 01, 2020, 08:58:54 AM
Hi FL, Thank you for sharing the new version, everything works without problems 8).
Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Bf-109L v30042020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on May 01, 2020, 03:51:42 PM
Version v01052020 uploaded, with many small fixes, slight changes to loadouts and weapons.properties entires, and changing drag code to differ maximum speed in level flight between types. (try the L-4C3, it can go over 600 kmh level now)

For the entire time I've been developing this mod, I've tried to keep balance between Bf-109Ls and Russian counterparts to not make Bf-109Ls simply ultra superturbo god planes with instant death cannons, but reasonably fair (although admittedly slightly superior, and in the case of the L-4C3, more than slightly) opponents. No plane can have "everything": the Bf-109L-1, L-2 early, L-2 late, L-4 and L-4C3 are all powerful interceptors, but with poor turn performance and light armor. The L-1/B and L-3 have stronger armor, but their performance (especially in low-speed turns) suffers even more. The Bf-109L-4C3 is as far as I'm going, and even it is far superior to any propellor-powered Russian or American aircraft of its time.

S~ and enjoy!
Title: Re: Bf-109L v02052020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on May 02, 2020, 11:28:41 AM
Version v02052020 has been uploaded, fixing L-1 and L-2 (late) unable to drop bombs.
Title: Re: Bf-109L v02052020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: Ultracrack 3.3 Patch 69 on September 16, 2020, 01:28:43 PM
Great addition to the Bf-109 pack!
Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Bf-109L v02052020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on October 22, 2020, 12:03:20 AM
Version v22102020 has been uploaded, with major changes to the flight models.
Title: Re: Bf-109 "L" Series v22102020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: david1948 on July 31, 2022, 11:16:45 AM
Hello,
I believe this pack also changes the propellor of the K-14 model to a blade, which i believe it shouldn't have. Is there any way to fix it?
Title: Re: Bf-109 "L" Series v22102020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on July 31, 2022, 11:33:14 AM
As far as I know, this mod doesn't do anything to the K-14s. It uses its own standalone 3D for the 109Ls. Have you checked the K-14's 3D model ingame with this mod enabled?
Title: Re: Bf-109 "L" Series v22102020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: david1948 on July 31, 2022, 12:03:08 PM
I'm not 100% sure it's because of this mod, but i noticed the K14 has the same 4 blade propeller as the L's, but the texture on the K-14's propellor hub clearly indicates a 3 blade prop should be there
Title: Re: Bf-109 "L" Series v22102020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s)
Post by: FL2070 on July 31, 2022, 01:53:08 PM
the texture on the K-14's propellor hub clearly indicates a 3 blade prop should be there

This mod doesn't change any texture on the 109K-14. I have a BAT 4.2.1 installation with the latest version of the 109Ls installed, and my K-14 looks like this with the default skin:

(https://i.postimg.cc/sfPjmpjK/image.png)

It may be some other mod, or some skin you are using which is not made for the 109K-14.
Title: Re: Bf-109 "L" Series v22102020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: SAS~Sani on September 14, 2024, 06:35:39 PM
Late to the party, as always :D. Just wanted to say that DB606 is not fiction, it actually exists...and it's way too big for this plane :D
Anyway, as a 109 fan, I like these.
Title: Re: Bf-109 "L" Series v22102020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: SAS~Storebror on September 15, 2024, 12:25:50 AM
True that.
Something along the line of a DB614, DB623~DB632 would be the logical consequence, albeit none of these would fit the airframe of a 109.
But I don't think it matters much, as this is a purely fictional brainfart anyway :D

]cheers[
Mike
Title: Re: Bf-109 "L" Series v22102020 (fictional 1946 Bf-109s) [4.09] [4.10] [4.11] [4.12] [4.13] [bat]
Post by: SAS~Sani on September 15, 2024, 04:20:16 AM
However, squeezing a DB603N in the nose of a 109 would be in the realm of possible...now that would be a banger  :D. Too bad my 3d setup is not yet up and running, engine cowling would require some minor work.