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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Helicopters/Airships => Topic started by: western0221 on November 12, 2019, 07:47:07 AM

Title: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: western0221 on November 12, 2019, 07:47:07 AM
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/4d79/5omlcdxksmg9q3a6g.jpg)

This pack is a total bugfix and upgrade in merging those Mi-8 and Mi-24 mods.

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Helicopters 2.0 --- Pablo(benitomuso)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,48864.0.html

Mi-24V VERSION 2.5 --- BT~wasted
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,32888.0.html

Mi-8T Hip version 1.0 --- BT~wasted
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,32834.0.html

Mi-8 Terminator ver. 29.10.15 --- Bison_M
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,44616.0.html

Upgrade Cockpit Mi-8 --- Bison_M
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,48890.0.html

Original 3D / 2D / Java / FM author credits are in those original topics or original readme.txt in each folders.

All of additional works are by western0221.

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- New variants are added: Mi-8MT, Mi-24P
- Flightmodels are based on Pablo's version 02/Nov./2015 + bugfix and rework
 + Rotors stop after engines stop. Speed limiter.
 + Mi-8s are made natural and stable flight characters.
 + "AI" variants are no more needed. (rests AI troubles are in Engine mod side)
- Collisions and damage models are added. (survivability's correction is a future discussion.)
- LOD and shadow models are added for low fps damage.
- Tires and some small parts are rebuilt with historical specs.
- Other 3d bugs are almost fixed.
- Use Generation 2016 weapons with new gunpods, add historical loadouts with historical pylons / launchers.
 + Use cod/ style loadouts to save memory.
 + Incorrect weapons are deleted.
- Correct Mi-24 3d scale. (Its old 3d model was about 15 percents bigger than historical.)
- Never used files are cleaned-up. In examaple Mi-8 Terminator 3do folder had 50 percent numbers of no-used files, they are now deleted.
 + Not to overwrite this pack on old mod folders, to keep effective the cleaning-up.
- More reworks on Mi-8 cockpit.
- Russian type Chock 3d models are shown with Chocks mod enabled in conf.ini .
- Mi-24P's GSh-30-2k cannon has variable fire rate. Alt_9 key toggles 2600rpm -- 2000rpm -- 300rpm.

Note:
Mi-8MT / Terminator and Mi-24P 's skins are a bit different from original (or old) Mi-8T or Mi-24V.
Sturm-V missiles are assigned to Rocket trigger and selectable with unguided rockets by Select Rocket key.
Sturm-V missiles are guided by Nose gunner sight as SACLOS.


Disclaimer:
Current Mi-8MT / Terminator's Body 3d model is not historical.
Their historical engine cover shape is different from Mi-8T, but own 3d model is not made yet.


Requirements:
- HD / Full color mod
- JetEra v1.33
- SAS Engine mod 2.8.16w
- Weapon pack Generation 2016-iii
- Vega's Weapon pack
- Mod Wheels V.5


Download:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4utevef27oaz6zd/Mi8_Mi24_v4pack_20191112.7z/file

(Bonus --- Russian localization plane_ru.properties and weapons_ru.properties files are in the archive.  :) )
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: enry711 on November 12, 2019, 10:00:06 AM
Wow western. Astonishing, simply perfect! Great job!
Thank you so much for this pack ]wav[
I can't wait to try out the new helis, especially the Mi-24P  ;D
Thank you
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Seb on November 12, 2019, 11:02:18 AM
Hi Western.
Thank you very much for your wonderful work.
Best regards
Seb
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019)
Post by: Gaston on November 12, 2019, 11:50:43 AM
Woaw ! Hope they will be included in next BAT update !
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Mission_bug on November 12, 2019, 12:07:11 PM
Thank you very much for this update western, really appreciated. 8)

I had a CTD and traced it back to the original static files, once I found them in the old folders all was okay:

76D17FF0A0D3940C, DF00F8C0383A4676 and EFFA9BD439EF1AB4.

I had removed the old folders before adding yours, maybe I should have left them in, anyway it seems fine as far as CTD goes. ;)

I disabled the previous entries for the AI, was that correct?


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Koty on November 12, 2019, 02:15:39 PM
Nice work.

However I have to report missing dependency:
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[9:07:20 PM] INTERNAL ERROR: Can't open file '3DO/Plane/TEXTURES/wheels_MiG15.tga'
[9:07:20 PM] WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/TEXTURES/wheels_MiG15.tga' of class 'TTexture2D' not loaded
[9:07:20 PM] INTERNAL ERROR: Texture required
[9:07:20 PM] WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/Mi-8MT/WheelTire.mat' of class 'TMaterial' not loaded
[9:07:20 PM] INTERNAL ERROR: Material: Can't load 'WheelTire.mat'
[9:07:20 PM] Mission error, ID_04: java.lang.RuntimeException: INTERNAL ERROR: Material: Can't load 'WheelTire.mat'

Would you please include this texture in the mod? I'll try making a dummy one and see if it works or requires more dependencies.

Also, I just noticed, they use the old FM instead of the new one
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: linux4all on November 12, 2019, 03:40:17 PM
Same here :

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[10:15:01 PM] INTERNAL ERROR: Can't open file '3DO/Plane/TEXTURES/wheels_MiG15.tga'
[10:15:01 PM] WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/TEXTURES/wheels_MiG15.tga' of class 'TTexture2D' not loaded
[10:15:01 PM] INTERNAL ERROR: Texture required
[10:15:01 PM] WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/Mi-24P/WheelTire.mat' of class 'TMaterial' not loaded
[10:15:01 PM] INTERNAL ERROR: Material: Can't load 'WheelTire.mat'
[10:15:01 PM] INTERNAL ERROR: Material: Can't load 'WheelTire.mat'
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: western0221 on November 12, 2019, 05:23:36 PM
However I have to report missing dependency:
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[9:07:20 PM] INTERNAL ERROR: Can't open file '3DO/Plane/TEXTURES/wheels_MiG15.tga'
[9:07:20 PM] WARNING: object '3DO/Plane/TEXTURES/wheels_MiG15.tga' of class 'TTexture2D' not loaded

Would you please include this texture in the mod? I'll try making a dummy one and see if it works or requires more dependencies.

Oh .... I forgot the texture file is not installed.

no no no
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"Mod Wheels V.5" is required.

... and also JetEra v1.33 is needed , I forgot to mention.

Also, I just noticed, they use the old FM instead of the new one

Umm .... something confused where's which ones are the latest in beginning my works.
I'll look into it again, but some weeks is needed.
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Koty on November 12, 2019, 06:21:03 PM
Cheers, take your time.

The gunpods and all work really well. However it's built on a very old and outdated release of the mods. The newer ones are in WIP section and they include their own external flight model (which still needs a lot of work).
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: western0221 on November 12, 2019, 06:31:36 PM
The newer ones are in WIP section and they include their own external flight model (which still needs a lot of work).

That's shocking me ....
I don't know Mi-24P subtype was already made.
I never used any of WIP section materials in this pack.
So, Some of my and wasted works might be doubled , I failed.  ]violent1[


To merge both into one in carefully comparing 3d / 2d / java ..... will need more long time, not weeks but months, sigh !!
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: KingTiger503 on November 12, 2019, 08:30:08 PM
Take your time Wes, Like Someone like Koty will Help you.


Best Regards KT503
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Koty on November 12, 2019, 11:57:50 PM
I would help.
In fact I was going to work more on the flight models to add proper turbine behaviour - but I am currently busy with real life stuff.
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Hubberranz on December 09, 2019, 03:08:47 PM
works in my 412,2 SAS 5.3.  Thank you.  8)

- I needed to to retain the 3 statics files to secure from 70% and preserve their presence in missions.
   ( ...as per Mission Bug ).
- I needed to remove all else of older mod since the loadouts are very very persistent.
    (60F1C59EFE1E6344 probably; even when load preceded !).
- I needed to remove last.quick. ( loading null; due this persistence in QMB  ).
- I needed to update engine mod to recent for A2CB1446DA3A203E, = SACLOS.
- I needed to implement 97 x loadouts of Mil-24V with    ! 00__WeaponsPack_Gen2016_iii_20191109release
- I had to correct a Mig9 "fluo green antenna view" from cockpit, seen at right towards the back. Done.
- have to implement skins 1024; done.
- ... further pack models later tested without issues.

 ( I like the fuel tanks with this machine! ).  ;D
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Hubberranz on December 09, 2019, 03:33:09 PM
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/18ea/3m7ar6vj28w7bg27g.jpg) (https://www.mediafire.com/view/3m7ar6vj28w7bg2)
          (https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/6f1a/2r5eyuxj045kqzl7g.jpg) (https://www.mediafire.com/view/2r5eyuxj045kqzl)
          ... I used il-28's HULL instead. All else remains mig-9.
          https://www.mediafire.com/file/ky7il1o4pm8g023/MiG-9pitForMil-24.7z/file
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Hubberranz on December 09, 2019, 10:32:07 PM
... here I have few SEPARATE samples of error log I encountered and why:

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[5:47:45 AM] Main begin: PlMisStatic: class 'vehicles.planes.HeliStatic$Mi24V' not found

[9:36:15 PM] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/maddox/il2/objects/weapons/Pylon_KMGU2_gn16

[2:06:00 AM] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/maddox/il2/objects/air/TypeSACLOS

[7:40:08 PM] Mission error, ID_04: java.lang.RuntimeException: Weapon set 'Default' not registered in air.Mi24V
- crash at 70% no static files present: recuperate  76D17FF0A0D3940C, DF00F8C0383A4676 and EFFA9BD439EF1AB4 from old mod.
- the new weapons loadout not found ( need to update weapons ) and meanwhile...
  ...the old ones are still asked for...  ( over resilience and need to remove the older loadout defining file... ).
- a very early crash where game don't  load; there is a missing SACLOS initiate file. Solved.
- an ollder Default loadout setting persist in QMB in spite of the original file(s) having been removed. Delete  'Last quick'.

  ... in this case the loadouts are nil and bogus, in spite of a totally perfect install ( I settup the new mod immediately after using the old one ).

Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: TeamFlyingAce162 on December 30, 2019, 04:45:21 PM
Am having 30% CTD with the latest pack. Had them working on on my old machine; but it decided to die on me so I've been having to rebuild everything :(

Game version 4.12.2 + CUP

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java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: printCompassHeading
   at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.CockpitMi8.<init>(CockpitMi8.java:158)
   at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Native Method)
   at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Unknown Source)
   at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.createCockpits(Aircraft.java:2635)
   at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.load(Aircraft.java:2140)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.loadAir(Mission.java:1290)
   at com.maddox.il2.ai.Wing.load(Wing.java:144)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.loadWings(Mission.java:1080)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission._load(Mission.java:655)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.access$600(Mission.java:123)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission$BackgroundLoader.run(Mission.java:411)
   at com.maddox.rts.BackgroundTask.doRun(BackgroundTask.java:155)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:108)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:422)
   at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Epervier on December 31, 2019, 03:07:45 AM
Am having 30% CTD with the latest pack. Had them working on on my old machine; but it decided to die on me so I've been having to rebuild everything

Game version 4.12.2 + CUP

java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: printCompassHeading
Known incompatibility!
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: TeamFlyingAce162 on December 31, 2019, 07:54:46 AM
Thank you Epervier! Did some quick reading and found the conflict.

Birds are flying now
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019)
Post by: dsawan on August 27, 2020, 08:27:48 PM
Curious. will the new varinats of the mi-8 and mi-24P be in the next BAT update?
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019)
Post by: Vampire_pilot on August 28, 2020, 12:52:45 AM
No. Last time I checked it wasn't campatible for a number of reasons.
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019)
Post by: dsawan on December 26, 2021, 09:21:29 PM
I tried the mi-24 P with 4.2.1 bat and the rotor moves as it should. the previous version, it would not rotate. The gun when fired still causes the plane to spin out of control though. Hoping we can get this one fixed in the new year
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019)
Post by: Vampire_pilot on December 27, 2021, 12:47:41 AM
As soon as someone makes a version of this with actually INDEPENDENT new classes and slots and INDEPENDENT new diff-FM files and INDEPENDENT new 3do sets...

as in: NOT reusing existing slots names and NOT reusing existing diff-FM names, this will be a no-brainer to install in BAT.
As it is, it is a mess with stuff half overwriting existing elements, just to get some new to work and mess other things up completely. Imagine an elephant in a china store, turning around.

I've stated this circumstance a couple of times before.
In case you all are wondering: I don't see me, myself or I doing that.
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Alex_355th on April 06, 2022, 12:15:40 AM
Just wondering but by any chance does anyone have the template for the mi-8t and mi-24v?
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019) [4.12]
Post by: Glaciar on October 31, 2022, 09:56:22 AM
Just wondering but by any chance does anyone have the template for the mi-8t and mi-24v?

Im looking for the same!!

I apreciate that!
Title: Re: Mi-8 Hip / Mi-24 Hind pack ver 4.00 (12/Nov/2019)
Post by: MarvinT on January 06, 2023, 08:53:14 PM
 Thank you for all the work you put into this pack. I finally got the Mi-24 V version to work in  BAT with the CY-6 India Pakistan Afghanistan map. I  made two test missions. I was able to load /take off with the 250kg bomb mod weapon. Blew myself up,  too low above the target . Still some quirks but with practice you can fly this bird  like a hot rod.  I appreciate your time and effort again thank you.