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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Other Mods => WIP => Topic started by: gio963tto on January 12, 2020, 08:28:47 AM
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I need Help for slot for this
(https://i.postimg.cc/V5P5fjx8/2020-01-11-17-40-09.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PvKdK8f3)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1zvBYKT4/2020-01-11-17-40-00.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f30YVYMh)
actually use a B52 ol mod slot,greetins Gio.
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Six turning, Four burning.... WOW!!!! o_O ;D ^-^
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...Two smoking, One on fire.
Holy Moly this is amazing!!!
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Gio - master
Thank you for great information for the New Year.
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Wow! :o
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Well hello! Swell job.
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Thanks for making this.
EDIT: When a slot is made, I'll do a single mission for it. Probably a practice bombing run. I guess it'd need a map with the longest possible runway? Any reccomendations for which one to use? I don't usualy give a rip about jets. But some jets are more equal than others. I'd love to have seen the real thing.
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Gio, feel free to you can use this with this bird:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/51b7io61188q40b/B-36_Bombs.7z
(I made these bombs originally for a B-36 project by 101tfs, that got since frozen ( the project, not 101tfs :P ;D)
The mod includes the necessary files for activating the nuke effects and for activating the barometric and proximity fuzes used for the Mk17, besides its airburst fuze (if one has not already installed the full barometric/hydrostatic/proximity fuzes mod I uploaded some time ago)
This mod is for 4.12.2 Modact 4.30 (will work for all versions of 4.12)
If one chooses not to use the barometric and proximity fuzes there is the possibility to use the Nuke with the airburst fuze only - in this case, in the folder B-36, delete the file 46F48070EB58F7FC (after making a backup of it) and rename the file 46F48070EB58F7FC airburst as 46F48070EB58F7FC. This is also a good solution for 4.13 and 4.14 (though I made an adaptation of the full barometric/hydrostatic/proximity fuzes for 4.13RC1 and 4.13.4 that can be found on this forum).
A detail - the yield of the bomb in the java file is 'only" 1.5MT instead of 15MT as the effect in too major for the game - but the radius is correct 5.5km for severe damage for ground level explosion.
Some data on these bombs:
1) Mark 17
Fuze: airburst or contact
Yield 10-15 Megatons
The B-36 was the only means of delivering the first generation Mark-17 hydrogen bomb, 24 feet 8 inches (7.5 m) long (excluding the chute), 5 feet 2 inches (1.6 m) in diameter, and weighing 41,400 lb (~19,000 kg), the heaviest and bulkiest American aerial nuclear bomb ever. Carrying this massive weapon required merging two adjacent bomb bays (the two aft bomb bays).
Mk 17 Mod 0 and Mk 24 Mod 0 bombs were introduced October and November 1954, replacing the prototype weapons: They included a 64-foot-diameter (20 m) parachute to allow the delivery aircraft to escape the area of detonation.
The Mod 0 of the Mk 17 was not exactly a model of aerodynamic stability, as it oscillated with an amplitude of about 10 degrees during its fall, even with parachute retardation, but the nose, which was 2 inches longer, did not aggravate this effect.
The Mk 17 Mod 1 was design-released December 1954 and appeared in stockpile March 1955. By September 1955, all the Mod 0's in stockpile had been converted to the Mod 1 configuration.
The Mk 17 Mod 2 Bomb was design-released June 1, 1955. The weapon contained a Mk 17 Mod 0 Fuze, with both contact- and air-burst capabilities. (Strategic Air Command had developed increasing interest in true contact bursts, to be used for cratering enemy air fields)
The bomb was 61.4 inches in diameter, 298 inches long, and weighed 42,000 pounds. It used a 64-foot-diameter chute and had an operational restriction of 365 knots airspeed and 20,000-foot altitude on the weapon at release. About 25 percent of the Mk 17 stockpile was converted to the Mod 2 configuration.
This was the primary EWO weapon carried by the B-36 fleet during the 1950s. The bomb was carried in the two aft bomb bays, while a smaller 6,000 pound MK6 atomic bomb was carried in one of the forward bomb bays.
The TX-14 baro fuze was used in the early weapons but was intended to be replaced by a proximity fuze as soon as possible.
The 64-foot-diameter chute could be reefed to provide a 100-second time of fall, but became unstable when reefed to produce a 75-second descent. Eventually, the system was designed to contain a 5-foot guide surface chute, a 16-foot deployment chute, and a 64-foot main canopy, all released in stages.
The release was made at an altitude of 40,000 feet or higher. Lower altitude releases, into denser air, would produce high-shock loadings.
The B-52 could not be used as a carrier due to its high speed, which also created high shock loadings at release, therefore this weapon was used exclusively by the B36.
T12:
BOMB, GP, tritonal, 44,000-lb, T12
Total length 322 in (818 cm);
Body length 200 in (508 cm);
Diameter 54 in (137 cm);
Total weight 43600 lb (19780 kg);
Explosive (tritonal) weight 17600 lb (7980 kg).
The original design was given the nomenclature "Bomb, General Purpose, 42,000-lb., T12." Changes in fabrication later increased the weight of the projectile and it later became the "Bomb, General Purpose, 44,000-lb., T12" to reflect the increased weight of the device.
Though designed to weigh approximately 42,000 lb, the practicalities of manufacturing drove the weight to 43,600 lb, 41% (17,600 lb) of which was high explosives.
The bomb body was made up of six sections welded together. The tail assembly was attached to the body with 24 bolts which are anchored in the base plate of the body. The 4 tail fins were canted so as to impart a stabilizing spin to the bomb's trajectory.
Fuzes:
Initially Three British Tail pistol No58 MkI - delays: 0.05s 0.25s 0.5s 3s 11s 24-30 min 1 hour
They were replaced in the mid fifties by three air-arming fuzes T723 placed 120 degrees apart in the base plate using the M40 Primer detonator:
Primer-detonator M40, used with the 12,000 to 44,000-pound GP bombs, was supplied with 0.025-, 0.04-, 0.05-, 0.014-, 0.5-, 1.0-, 3.0-, 11.0-, and 25.- to 30.-seconds delay and non-delay.
Five T12 bombs were provided the AAF shortly after V-J Day for testing. Since the B-36 was not even test flown until Aug 1946, the AAF modified a B-29 to perform testing with the T12.
A Boeing B-29A, No. 44-62263, was modified to carry the T12 by cutting away part of the body section, removing the rear bomb bay doors, and cutting the front doors. Even with such extensive modifications, about half the bomb hung beneath the plane. A special 50,000lb lift and a loading pit were also built to load the bomb. A total of six bombs were dropped by the B-29 assigned to Squadron C, 608th AAF Base Unit, Chemical Ordnance Test Group assigned to Muroc in March and April of 1948.
(A B-29 was also modified to carry a 22,000lb bomb under each wing for use against targets in Japan.)
Eventually a B-36 did test the T12. B-36 No. 43 dropped two T12s on the same mission on 29 January 1949 by flying from Fort Worth to Muroc and back. One was released at 35,000 feet and the other from 40,000 feet. All of these bombs were unexploded. Evidently at least one was dropped and exploded, but the details had not yet been released.
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Any update on this build - would love to see it released! ;D
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(https://i.postimg.cc/76jHFq1h/2020-01-21-16-45-05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/62LxRJmx)
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNxy5cZY/2020-01-21-16-45-23.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzKpZ2C9)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MHkwsdxj/2020-01-21-16-45-43.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dk9g3Rhq)
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Looks fantastic.
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Hi Gio
Great plane, great work.
I bow to the master. ]notworthy[
Regards
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WOW, that is a beast Gio, excellent model as always, nice to have you back it seems forever since you last posted anything. 8)
Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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She looks awesome Gio!
"[...] The largest mass-produced piston-engined aircraft ever built [...] and the longest wingspan of any combat aircraft ever built [...]" Link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-36_Peacemaker)
1946 Milestone reached! 1946 Milestone reached! 1946 Milestone reached!
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Thank you for working on this - you've done an amazing job.
;D
Looking forward to a release!
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WOW!!!!! :o :o :o
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I used to watch these fly ( actually they droned, shaking & rattling things in the dish cupboard ) over my house in the East Bay of San Francisco going to & from Travis Air Force Base near Sacramento, so I have a special interest in this future SAS aircraft edition...but it had better be very loud & have a very deep throbbing base note! ;)
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(http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Convair-B36/IMAGES/turrets-convair-b36.jpg)B36's turret is too complicated o_O
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it had better be very loud & have a very deep throbbing base note! ;)
You can try and listen to the G10N1 Fugaku mod.
The engine sound of the what-if Ha-54 engines is actually from P&W R-4360 samples and it's as loud as IL-2 allows them to be.
]cheers[
Mike
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SAS-Storebror- they used to fly over my neighborhood in V formationsof three & six aircraft .You can believe me you could hear them when they were a long way coming & going , but when they were overhead they literally shook people & things up as the slowly paraded by above us. From time to time I’ve given some thought as to what would have happened to all those big B-36’s if they ever had to make that long long flight into Russia without some sort of fighter escort. Russian air defenses probably weren’t as strong as we were told , but I’m guessing these big “Aluminun Overcast” giants wouldn’t have fared too well. Not too many would have been coming back to Travis Air Force Base..
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Hard to tell.
At the time of the B-36, radar wasn't all that advanced like we know it today and airborne radar was quite rudimentary.
Night intercepts usually started with a ground controller carefully vectoring an interceptor to a point 2 miles behind the enemy bomber.
Now try to do that when there's a few hundred of these bombers entering your airspace at almost the same time, from all directions.
Add to it massive decoy deployment and you get a few ten-thousand targets up high, out of which you'd have to pick the real ones within a few seconds.
Remember the interception windows was pretty small, the fighters had comparably little fuel onboard, and they'd have to climb up all the way and chase down their targets.
Sure, the few patrols who would have been up in the air anyway, they might have caused a certain toll on the bombers.
But the majority would probably have gone trough.
This applies to both sides by the way.
The only advantage the U.S. had was that enemy bombers would probably all go in via the northern route, so you could concentrate your most advanced radar systems on a comparably "short" line.
]cheers[
Mike
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B-36 low pass over Fort Worth. No sound regrettably.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCViKu9XlbQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCViKu9XlbQ)
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A clip form the (1955) movie "Strategic Air Command" starring Jimmy Stewart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FJVxtTNjJk&t=242s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FJVxtTNjJk&t=242s)
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Thanks I've got the full movie 8)
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Mike
Hard to tell.
At the time of the B-36, radar wasn't all that advanced like we know it today and airborne radar was quite rudimentary.
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Mike well said...couldn't agree with you more....but you left out one very important addition; The tiny but unlovely F-85 Goblin sling trapeze fighter could be brought along to knock out those pesky Migs, patrolling over Norhtern Siberia ( if their ground crews hadn't drunk all their antifreeze that is...) Now that i think about it maybe some far cleverer than I SAS Modder should get started on this "small" project??? Then we'd be prepared for battles over Russia in The Jet Age version of B.A,T.?? ]cussing[
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGFmpgwF/Mc-Donnell-XF-85-Goblin-Parasite-Jet-Fighter-Title.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The idea of the Goblin got dropped right when it started, and so I would suggest it should be for the mod.
If at all, the later developed idea to have a couple of B-36 with F-84 attached would make sense, but even then, truth is that all of this just doesn't really make sense at all.
Wasting bombers to bring outdated fighters with you to the game would not even contribute to the crew's confidence.
]cheers[
Mike
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How did the sound of the B-36 compare to the Kuznetzov's of the Tu-95?? (pistons versus turboprops I know ;))
Those Kuznetzovs are the most beautiful and evil sounding motherf**kers I've had the pleasure to hear
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~snip~B36's turret is too complicated o_O
What a coincidence! Just saw this on Imgur (https://imgur.com/gallery/s9crmB7)today:
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The idea of the Goblin got dropped right when it started, and so I would suggest it should be for the mod.
If at all, the later developed idea to have a couple of B-36 with F-84 attached would make sense, but even then, truth is that all of this just doesn't really make sense at all.
Wasting bombers to bring outdated fighters with you to the game would not even contribute to the crew's confidence.
Yup it was not such a hot idea...but sort of a jazzed up Zepplin-dropped Sparrowhawk...I was just adding a touch of fantasy ,I guess.
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I don't think the turrets are too complicated.
From a 3D modder's perspective, they're almost like any other turret.
It just takes 2 additional meshes: One "cover" mesh to close the fuselage in case the turret is retracted, and one "mount" mesh which holds the turret in open position (that 2nd mesh needs to be skinned on both sides because it rotates when the turret retracts).
A Java modder would then have to rotate the mount mesh and make the cover mesh slide accordingly. No big deal.
However, the current 3D model we have is a "Featherweight" config, with all remote turrets stripped. We only have the nose and the tail guns.
]cheers[
Mike
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Blimey! Can't wait. Looks wonderful. There are good sequences in film with Jimmy Stewart "Strategic Air Command".
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SAS-Storebror- they used to fly over my neighborhood in V formationsof three & six aircraft .You can believe me you could hear them when they were a long way coming & going , but when they were overhead they literally shook people & things up as the slowly paraded by above us. From time to time I’ve given some thought as to what would have happened to all those big B-36’s if they ever had to make that long long flight into Russia without some sort of fighter escort. Russian air defenses probably weren’t as strong as we were told , but I’m guessing these big “Aluminun Overcast” giants wouldn’t have fared too well. Not too many would have been coming back to Travis Air Force Base..
it had better be very loud & have a very deep throbbing base note! ;)
You can try and listen to the G10N1 Fugaku mod.
The engine sound of the what-if Ha-54 engines is actually from P&W R-4360 samples and it's as loud as IL-2 allows them to be.
]cheers[
Mike
BTW- Just installed this monster just to see ( actually listen) if your recommendation/observation was correct and yes it was .Its quite a beast but I probably need better/bigger speakers to get the full effect of having my house shake on the foundations like the real B-36's seem to do...My wife wouldn't like that at all ...but like I said this G10N1is quite a BEAST!
(https://i.postimg.cc/fWSDdVGr/2020-02-04-at-17-59-33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4b6S8vP)
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any news :)
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If there were any, they would have been posted.
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It’s a complicated engine design But what I concerned is no matter how much power of It’s engine and trust and Booster engines, Safety is number one priority.
Best Regards KT503
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Awesome plane bro!
Congratulations on your talent ;D
Greetings
Stachu
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Fun to just anticipate...like Christmas morning huh?
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If there were any, they would have been posted.
Sooo... are there any news? ;D
I walked under one of those beasts before... a sight to see. Fairly tall, like the Connies.
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probably rl taking a toll but curious too. an fsx version got a release. see here:
https://simviation.com/1/browse-Vintage-66-0
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how did you get the b36 in the screen shots?
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Wow! That looks cool.
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Did this ever get finished?? Ive seen some recent screenshots - is it out there somewhere?
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Guys, please relax, this plane is taken good care of. Once the involved Modders have some news worth to share I'm sure they will do in an instant.
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Yes, it is coming. It's in final testing.
(https://i.postimg.cc/TYSMLP2K/Image1.png)
this is no longer WIP
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Wow!
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;D ;D ;D!!!
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Cool ;D
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WHOW!!!
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What a MONSTER! :o :o :o
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Another epic plane coming up. For those who wanna see it in all it's glory should watch the movie "Strategic Air Command" from 1955 starring James Stewart. ;)
A glimpse of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-jktX2Fjs&list=PLgFT48OlmBwebR_YCIncHZgDpjiFv4TNb
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A little less conversation - better beast in flight footage. ;)
https://youtu.be/l1-urTRxeEM
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Are you ready?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1EEmr0QyFA
(c) SAS~Storebror
(Man, when I look at this footage I detect so many things we worked over since then :D )
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Truly awesome stuff in this game these days, great work guys I tip my hat. 8)
Always surprised at just what can be made to work in such a old sim. ;)
1C games should take a look in here and see just how far this old pastime of ours has evolved. :D
Take care and be safe.
Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Nice one Mike, You better Test Some Armaments first before the Final Phase Trials Begin.
Perhaps the Turrets will Test it Soon.
Best Regards KT503
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The countdown is on, the anticipation is high :D
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Wow!
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I'll have to buy a larger monitor just to fit the wingspan in! A very nice piece of work.
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Holy Cow!
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Worth the wait.
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The handover ceremony has been set now:)
meanwhile here's some more dramatic presentation by SAS~Storebror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZMLRSDuaiw
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No words. :o Also I never knew it had secret hidden guns like that. Oh man when enemy fighters approach they're so gonna regret it. 8) Really looking forward to this big bird. Thx you guys! :)
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Impressive!
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Sweet heavy bomber are those guns 20mm or 12.7 mm(50cal) hopefully 20mm cos mahahahhaha
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Yes, it is coming. It's in final testing.
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this is no longer WIP
Admin edit: Please don't quote pics!
when will it be available as a standalone mod? very Excited to fly it :)
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My guess is in a few days or weeks but do be patient friend, you can't rush perfection :)
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20mm M24A1 Autocannons, Nice Remote control for the Autocannons,, what about the B-36s Loadouts and the Landing Trials needs to Testing before the Final Phase Trials.
Best Regards KT503
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what about the B-36s Loadouts and the Landing Trials needs to Testing before the Final Phase Trials
What exactly are you smoking there KT?
]cheers[
Mike
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what about the B-36s Loadouts and the Landing Trials needs to Testing before the Final Phase Trials
What exactly are you smoking there KT?
]cheers[
Mike
It smells like Non-Smoking flight mike, hehehe.
Best Regards KT503