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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Twins => Topic started by: 101tfs on February 17, 2022, 06:36:28 AM

Title: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: 101tfs on February 17, 2022, 06:36:28 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/J7PBRxdw/su-8.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/udho7akdnxtvunr/SU-8M+v1.1.7z/file
Credits
101tfs- All 3D Importation
CWatson- Revised Classes

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Vampire_pilot on February 17, 2022, 06:54:54 AM

okay, great subject

It's just.... this must be the most anorexic mod post I've ever seen 8)
Not even a picture? ;)

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Epervier on February 17, 2022, 07:16:44 AM

You can't expect tons of photos from a prototype!  :D   :D   :D

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Mick on February 17, 2022, 08:05:17 AM

Quote from: SAS~vampire_pilot on February 17, 2022, 06:54:54 AM

okay, great subject

It's just.... this must be the most anorexic mod post I've ever seen 8)
Not even a picture? ;)

... here is a pic of one of the two prototypes that were ever built ...  ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mk9ZpyYb/SU-8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2LzfVv9J)

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: stanislao on February 17, 2022, 08:49:47 AM

 :D   Apparently it doesn't come from War Thunder or World of Warplanes ... so mystery!    ;)

   Here are some pictures! However, it is a beautiful model full of details and in HD Poly.    Thanks 101tfs it is a very welcome surprise!


(https://i.imgur.com/nFLQEIZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SggODOD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VNOMuU8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/haDlOH9.jpg)

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: P51vsFw190 on February 17, 2022, 08:54:58 AM

Speaking of anorexic, this appears to be a Tu-2 that went on a severe diet…

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: urmel on February 17, 2022, 11:48:45 AM

Great work! Many thanks to all involved.

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: agracier on February 17, 2022, 01:06:38 PM

Always welcome to any new addition ...

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Gaston on February 17, 2022, 02:00:30 PM

Nice plane, thanks ! But seems a bit under-powered, no ?

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: David Prosser on February 17, 2022, 02:38:29 PM

Thanks for this. I had to look it up.

cheers
David

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Shessi on February 17, 2022, 02:53:39 PM

Many thanks gents,

Good to have a very rare beast like this...

Cheers

Shessi

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: ben_wh on February 17, 2022, 07:04:48 PM

Thank you - a rare and beautiful plane.

Cheers,

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: dsawan on February 17, 2022, 10:30:31 PM

Thks, she is a beast and fun to play with!

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Kelso on February 18, 2022, 12:43:08 AM

Thank you for a great job. Interesting plane, although it is only a prototype. I am adding some improvements / fixes.
Firing weapons now drop shells.
Fixed hooks.
Default skin tidy.
In the variants of armament, the value should be: 10x RS-82

https://www.mediafire.com/file/w1t210ml7o6n4fa/SU-8M+v1.1+FIX.7z/file

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: DONAGHY on February 18, 2022, 09:57:32 PM

I would like to  introduce the Sukhoi SU-8 Attack Aircraft from 1943. Up front this design is experimental/prototype but did indeed fly. This was intended to be a long range and heavier alternative to the IL-2 but As history goes, as Germans were pushed back, the need for such range evaporated.

This plane is a beast, put lightly. This is a twin-engine Attack aircraft that was designed to work at great distances and at or behind front lines. As such it was heavily armored... very heavily armored. 10-15mm surrounding the pilot and gunner + armored skin, 64mm armored glass on frontal cockpit, up to 10mm armor surrounding the two Shvetsov M-71 engines, Oil tanks and coolers and the fuel tanks, which are also self sealing and pressuized with neutral gas adding to a ridiculous 1,680kg of steel armor plating alone. This protection was rated for protection from up to 13mm MGs.

The aircraft structure was mixed. Consisting of Steel and aluminum wings with plywood extremities, Armored steel front fuselage, Aluminum center fuselage, wooden monocoque tail assembly save for the metal Elevator and rudders. The Cockpit was high mounted for excellent visibility. Offensive Armament was overwhelming. 4x 45mm NS-45 Cannons With 50 Rounds per gun accompanied by a quartet of 7.62 Shkas per wing with 650rpg for 23.84kg/sec burst mass. It could carry 10x RS-82 or RS-132 Rockets and a pair of 500kg bombs, for a load of 1400kg.

Defensive armament was 1 UB 12.7mm with 200 rounds in a ventral turret and 7.62 with 500 rounds in dorsal position. You might be thinking that this thing must be extremely unwieldy... But performance is admirable, Relatively Light wing loading coupled with a sleek design, Leading edge slats, and powerful engines add up to a Climb rate of 7.4m/s, Top speed of 550kmh at 4600m, and perhaps most impressively, a 25 Second sustained turn time thanks to the automatic slats and wing loading. Range came to a respectable(by eastern front stadards)1500km

many thanks for a great mod s don

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: stanislao on February 19, 2022, 04:17:25 PM

 ;D   I only found this Sukhoi Su 8 livery on the web and it's really fun! However, I found a small defect, when the spinners that I colored white with blue triangles come into rotation, they lose their color and transform taking on a confused and stained green and blue aspect .. you will tell me to look for the relative mapping area but I can't find it, I've marked all possible areas but I just can't find it and it's a real shame ...

(https://i.imgur.com/t0RxQdi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lYbV2Jt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/01t7JSP.jpg)

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Shessi on February 21, 2022, 04:49:43 AM

Hi S,
If you look at the model, without it's skin, in a viewer, it shows as having that stretched mixed grey colour all over.  I think it may be an embedded texture in the model material itself or possibly another shared IL-2 texture.  If it is embedded, it is only in one LOD level, and that is why it only shows up when animated eg the spinners.

Go through each LOD and see if either there is any embedded textures or a non Su8 texture that's being used.

Cheers

Shessi

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: stanislao on February 21, 2022, 05:48:45 AM

 :(    Thanks Shessi for your intervention, yes I believe it is a directive linked to a Lod, I have tried the test mapping with colors and numbers and the color area does not correspond to any area of the texture as you see from the image, so a adjustment on Lods but I fear this is beyond my ability .....!   

(https://i.imgur.com/ZBNWtjs.jpg)

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Epervier on February 21, 2022, 05:54:28 AM

When you look at the mesh "prop" and "proprot" you can immediately see that there is a problem!
prop : 823 vertices
proprot : 3698 vertices    o_O   o_O   o_O

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Epervier on February 21, 2022, 11:31:06 AM

@Stan

Please, try with this little fix...
I have not tested it...

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: stanislao on February 21, 2022, 12:30:25 PM

 :D   Thanks Epervier I downloaded and installed it, now it's a bit late for me but tomorrow I'll tell you how it went! Thanks again.

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: stanislao on February 21, 2022, 12:45:52 PM

 ;D    :D    Bingo! Thanks Epervier! I couldn't resist, I tried it and it works! Now the spinners keep their original coloring and everything is fine!


 

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Epervier on February 21, 2022, 12:59:04 PM

Quote from: stanislao on February 21, 2022, 12:45:52 PM

I couldn't resist, I tried it and it works!

:D   :D   :D
Worse than a child with a new toy!  ;)

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Mission_bug on February 21, 2022, 02:14:36 PM

Superb addition, thank you very much to all involved, really appreciated. 8)

Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Shessi on February 22, 2022, 01:56:32 PM

Thanks Epervier for sorting that out.

Cheers

Shessi

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on February 24, 2022, 03:55:27 AM

Excellent aircraft! Sadly the new long range skin doesnt show up for me despite being an option in my QMB? I installed the 1024x1024 version. I added the prop fix btw

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: DONAGHY on February 24, 2022, 06:12:54 AM

you have correct dlls s don

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: stanislao on February 24, 2022, 06:25:34 AM

 :)  It almost certainly requires Carsmaster's HD dlls to display like most 101tfs works.  ;)

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on February 24, 2022, 11:25:46 PM

Ive got up to date BAT arent the .dlls included? This is the only skin i have problems with on any aircraft??

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: stanislao on February 25, 2022, 06:33:29 AM

 :-X  Uncle foot! I'm sorry, I don't know how to help you, the two skins are classic 1Mb and 12Mb skins, I think the problem lies in the "summer" or "summer - HD" folder, probably in the TGB file, everything works for me in VPModPack, maybe something happens in BAT conflict, you know, Il2 never bores you because some mess happens every day ....     ;)

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: stanislao on February 25, 2022, 10:41:29 AM

 ;D  PO_MAK I have just received a correction to the "summer" folder sent to me by C.Watson, which should correct and make the refractory skins visible .. try the change and tell me if it works for you.

 Link  :   https://www.mediafire.com/file/o6ref7ncdcqnwfh/SU-8M%2528multi1%2529.rar/file

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on February 26, 2022, 12:06:36 AM

Cheers stanislao will check over the weekend

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: Gaston on February 26, 2022, 03:09:51 AM

Thanks, Stanislao ! This is how every mod plane should come, with the possibility to use standard skins (1 Mo) ! HD is an option, and must remain an option.

Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-8
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on February 28, 2022, 02:50:13 AM

Thanks C Watson your new summer skin worked!!