Special Aircraft Service
the SAS Hangar => New Member Safety Area => Topic started by: flying_dutchman on October 12, 2022, 12:39:26 PM
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My Specs:
Gigabyte: GA-970A-DS3P (2.x)
RAM-8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
AMD FX4300
Zotac AMD R7 250
1TB SSHD Seagate Firecuda
IPS panel 22"
Why my Stock 4.12.2 or BAT installed crashed to desktop after playing for a 15 mins yet my Stock 4.15m carries on. Both of them experience little bit lags which is acceptable yet in 4.12.2m or BAT which is based on the 4.12.2m stock the lag increases and finally it freezes and then crashes to desktop. I also use FaceTrackNoIR. I also have NotonLifeLock nstalled on my system, is it hogging my resources ?
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Hello!
I wouldn't think that your security software would do this. However, I'm no genius about these things . . . SO . . . :
Please post a copy of your configuration file, along with an error log (crash log) which you should also find in the root folder of the game
so that someone who reads that language can maybe help you. Use the hash tag icon on the button at the top of the "Post Reply" page for "Insert Code" so it doesn't take up entire browser page.
Like this
Good Luck, M8!
Bird
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In short...
- Read how to get the log here (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13457.0.html), and the instant log here (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,19308.0.html) (Except for BAT which contains InstantLog).
- When you want to post only the relevant parts from the log
read here (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=39780.0) how to do this. (code option!)
- If you want to post all lines of the logfile we suggest to use https://pastebin.com/
to paste your log and then paste the link here which you got from them.
Read and see here (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,39780.msg627220.html#msg627220) how to do this.
Note: It is preferable to provide the LOG in its entirety!
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Extracted the InstantLog_1.00 in the game directory. Still the log.lst and eventlog.lst are truncated.nothing much to share.
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Why not deactivate that Norton?
If that is possible, last time I used their crap,
Their Game mode was crashing my BAT,
as it it did frequent scanning in background and
ate up precious ressources.
Only solution for me have cleaner background processes,
Completely wipe this crap off.
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Unless I am mistaken, it seems that the BAT pack has the InstantLog Mod already installed!
That's one less thing to do. Just read the LOG!
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I have installed BAT 4.2.1 with hotfix and had added all the skin repositories and 4 single missions pack. If I select Stock Game on IL2 Selector it still crashes after playing around 10 minutes or so. Initially the game tends to freeze for .25 seconds every 3 -4 minutes or so and just before crashing this freezing becomes more frequent and the game finally freezes. Below are the logs ..
https://pastebin.com/u/flying_dutchman
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Do I have this right?
You have the BAT pack but you select in the Selector : Stock Game ?
In this case, unless a BAT specialist advises you otherwise, don't be surprised if things go wrong!
For BAT you have 4 possibilities:
- B.A.T. Dawn of Flight 1906-1926
- B.A.T. The Golden Age 1926-1936
- B.A.T. World at War 1936-1946
- B.A.T. The Jet Age 1966-...
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It does CTD on Steam also.....I have 4.12.2 on steam....I just copied and moved the game folder in another directory of my HDD to mod it to BAT...I have also tested with stock 4.12.2 game folder before modding it to BAT... ;D ;D ;D .....using the BAT so that I can get instalog.
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Did you try getting rid of Norton as suggested almost a week ago?
]cheers[
Mike
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It does CTD on Steam also.....I have 4.12.2 on steam....I just copied and moved the game folder in another directory of my HDD to mod it to BAT...I have also tested with stock 4.12.2 game folder before modding it to BAT... ;D ;D ;D .....using the BAT so that I can get instalog.
Why shoudn't I be able select Stock Game in IL2 Selector 4.0 amd play it...after all they do list the version of the game ):( ):( ):( As it is there I should be able to use it....simple logic.
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And of course it works.
Your problem is not BAT.
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AM I TOO SILENT?
3RD AND LAST ATTEMPT.
Did you try getting rid of Norton as suggested almost a week ago?
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Nope !!! I have purchased it with my hard earned money !!!! How can I part with it ?
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Do you want a solution or just want to vent off some steam?
]cheers[
Mike
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Do you want a solution or just want to vent off some steam?
]cheers[
Mike
I have uninstalled my NortonLifeLock keeping my settings and password saved and still my 4.12.2m freezes and then crashes in Steam...
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I'd recomment checking the Windows Event Viewer and in parallel, look for "hs_err_pid<xyz>.log" file(s) in the game's root folder (contents would be interesting if such file exists and the timestamp matches a recent crash).
Now that there have been a few ten thousand players before with no such issue whatsoever, it must be something very special on your end...
]cheers[
Mike
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I'd recomment checking the Windows Event Viewer and in parallel, look for "hs_err_pid<xyz>.log" file(s) in the game's root folder (contents would be interesting if such file exists and the timestamp matches a recent crash).
Now that there have been a few ten thousand players before with no such issue whatsoever, it must be something very special on your end...
]cheers[
Mike
I did not find anything like or similar to "hs_err_pid<zyz>.log however I did locate the error my windows event viewer and posting the general and detail view of the event.
https://pastebin.com/u/flying_dutchman
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Also with the high eye candy conf.ini posted on the BAT RED Core 4.0 thread any water body is black.....if I replace them with the stock conf.ini I get back water bodies....
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Solved the issue of Black water bodies by making necessary changes in conf.ini suitable for AMD graphics card. Yet to test with Stock selected on IL2 Selector 4.0.....
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Well yeah... OpenGL32.dll error.
AMD.
That sounds familiar.
I'd recommend using an older version of the AMD driver package. Latest ones have changed the OpenGL part significantly and broke a lot while doing so.
What's a bit odd is that you said 4.15 was working.
There is no difference between the different game versions in this regard.
While BAT is using HD DLLs which could theoretically cause all kind of graphics issues, at least the Steam version should come with defaults, and these defaults are exactly the same like the ones used in 4.15.
The only thing I could think of is that your 4.15 game uses different settings than your 4.12.2 versions.
You seem to work with conf.ini, this could explain it.
I'd recommend downgrading the AMD drivers to something 2020'ish.
This will change a lot, and it potentially fixes the issue.
If not, cross-copy conf.ini from 4.12.2 to 4.15 and vice versa.
]cheers[
Mike
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There must be some magic in 4.15m or at least in my 4.15m cause I moved the 4.12.2m game folder in a different directory and patched it manually to 4.15m.
I did what you suggested for my 4.12.2m
1) Downgraded to a Dec 8, 2020 driver package 20.12.1 earlier it was June 23, 2022 (22.6.1) ------didn't solve the issue.
2) Copied conf.ini from 4.15m to 4.12.2 --------didn't solve the issue
3) disabled my FaceTrackNoIR and looked around with mouse -------diidn't solve the issue.
Surely there must be some magic in 4.15m as it advertises better handling of resources...Yes...it twice momentarily stuck for .25/.5 second but never stuck anymore..I played the Finland Brewster-239 single mission and aimlessly flew ...dived, climed , did barrel roll for 15 mins and it never freezed and crashed.....
Also in my BAT mod I flew Single mission for India on Hawker Hunter ...and flew for 15 mins ( in my earlier June 23, 2022 driver) and it didn't do a CTD didn't freeze to...maybe the Hawker Hunter Canopy is too dirty which spared my AMD R7 250 from rendering the ground sharply also there were morning mists...
I am sure you have a good configuration desktop at your disposal so better handling of resources by the game does not matter , maybe not so in a very minimum resource machine like mine.
Lots of "maybe" but can't help it.... ;D ;D ;D
P.S.--Also..I have a Nvidia GTX 550 Ti at my disposal , I can test with that if you like....However I don't think Nvidia will do any justice as I had a GTX 750 Ti earlier and it crashed while playing Single mission DOF - American Expeditionary force...however i am willing to try...
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Corrigendum:
Checked DOF Single Mission, US American Expeditionary Force with AMD R7 250 ...no issue ..freezed for .25 sec or .5 sec 2 or thrice however never did a CTD...so the issue seems to be only in 4.12.2m
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there must be some magic in 4.15m as it advertises better handling of resources
The usual broad claim that creates all kind of expectations and placebo feelings.
We've had people reporting each and everything from faster load times and less crashes to tastier chicken and better sex.
Truth is: They've changed the Java VM from ancient version 1.3 to ancient version 1.8.
While this would have made life easier for modders, especially in terms of big modpacks like BAT (and here comes the catch: TD locked this feature away from modding), it doesn't do a single bit of what has reportedly been seen.
I'm telling you this as someone who has spent years of his life inside Java VMs.
]cheers[
Mike
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there must be some magic in 4.15m as it advertises better handling of resources
The usual broad claim that creates all kind of expectations and placebo feelings.
We've had people reporting each and everything from faster load times and less crashes to tastier chicken and better sex.
Truth is: They've changed the Java VM from ancient version 1.3 to ancient version 1.8.
While this would have made life easier for modders, especially in terms of big modpacks like BAT (and here comes the catch: TD locked this feature away from modding), it doesn't do a single bit of what has reportedly been seen.
I'm telling you this as someone who has spent years of his life inside Java VMs.
]cheers[
Mike
How do I solve my issue then...I need 4.12.2 to play stock missions too....I am ready to work with you....give me a step by step guide....
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I think I have found out the cause of crashing of my 4.12.2m/ 4.13.4m/4.14.1m/4.15m as my Single Mission - Romania - I.A.R. 81a - I.A.R 81aN1 does not work..shows "Mission loading Failed : Null". Also if I select stock game in BAT...the mission fails there too. I have uninstalled and resinstalled the game in Steam however the issue remains. Steam gives me 4.13.4m unless I select Beta option. Any suggestions ?
Edit : I found out the reason of "Mission loading Failed : Null"as I didn't arm the aircraft .... However stalling of game continues.... and results in crashing.
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...and the log of this new problem can be found where exactly?
]cheers[
Mike
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it is the error on my side for not arming the aircraft...However I am unable to get the Tails for Win32 work...unable to find a .exe file after extracting it .
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Tails for what?
Extracting what?
You're talking gibberish, sorry to say.
]cheers[
Mike
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we could submit the sentence to chatGPT
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Sure, why not?
(https://i.ibb.co/mXW77gW/Screenshot-2023-04-22-194703.png)
]cheers[
Mike