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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => Twins => Topic started by: dona on April 02, 2023, 09:24:05 PM

Title: UC-45
Post by: dona on April 02, 2023, 09:24:05 PM: Several years ago I found an obscure download for Dimon's UC-45 (AI only) not exactly sure where, probably at IL2 Air Combat. It really is a beautiful rendition of a truly iconic Beech twin that saw military service worldwide as a transport, trainer and utility aircraft from WWII into the 21st Century. I put it aside and basically forgot about it because it was AI only. Recently found it and fooled around with a couple of skins just to see what might be done with it it from a skinning perspective. Certainly endless possibilities. I don't know how the protocols work but if it could be imported into SAS given a cockpit and a slot it would be a very cool addition to the game. Anyway just my opinion.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dz9F57p3/2023-04-03-02-57-40.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BZcsc9xR/2023-04-03-02-57-28.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rwzkkDvL/2019-10-31-04-23-32.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1zq18LmC/2023-04-03-02-58-52.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Edit by Frankiek Download Link
https://www.mediafire.com/file/l6wqh5ognd0u1vg/05_D18S.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/l6wqh5ognd0u1vg/05_D18S.7z/file)
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: <Gunny> on April 02, 2023, 09:56:14 PM: Sounds like a very good Idea...... ;)
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Gaston on April 02, 2023, 11:29:50 PM: It comes from IL-2 Air Combat, you are right, dona. The external model is a beauty. And true, it would deserve to be flyable...
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Frankiek on April 03, 2023, 01:17:17 AM: I couldn't find it at Air combat if anybody can provide a clue or a download link?

I only could find this

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,38204.msg424085.html?PHPSESSID=021bdbc97acc425581fa7d3c4ac5928d#new
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Gaston on April 03, 2023, 12:29:07 PM: I have found it. It is here : , strangely not having its own post.

Non respect of a SAS forum rule!
Links to other sites!!
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,66365.0.html
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Frankiek on April 03, 2023, 12:37:07 PM: I gave a search for UC-45, Beechcraft etc and look extensively in multiengine but nothing came out I would have never imagined that it was in the single engine section
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Gaston on April 03, 2023, 01:46:40 PM: Same for me... I had to first look in my downloaded files archive to have a starting clue... and then, search the site.
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: dona on April 03, 2023, 01:49:35 PM: As I recall it was a link post at the bottom of a page not an actual post under multi-engine,
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: dona on April 03, 2023, 01:56:31 PM: Gaston's link is the correct one.
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Frankiek on April 03, 2023, 02:01:30 PM: I got t thanks now I am trying to find out a good cockpit? I thred the AT-7 but I am not very satisfied was thinking about the Anson? Any suggestion?
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: dona on April 03, 2023, 02:05:23 PM: what about the AT-11?
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Frankiek on April 03, 2023, 05:35:09 PM: works better and actually is very close to the AT-7 please have a try and let me know there are still a few bugs but is not too bad tested in BAT 4.2.2, 4.12.2 Modact 5.3, 4.09 Modact

https://www.mediafire.com/file/l6wqh5ognd0u1vg/05_D18S.7z/file
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: kirk1965 on April 04, 2023, 08:50:48 AM: Dear Dona and Frankiek, when I saw the skins I was already thrilled with the possibility. Now with the aircraft being made available, my eyes are filled with joy. I live in Leiria, Portugal, and look what's in the Park I walk on:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zq8SVTQW/28025-1474225094.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vmMj85Pm/transferir.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I will be anxious and grateful if you can make the skins available. And a special request for Dona. Could you make one like the one in the Park, the 2508 of the FAP (Portuguese Air Force)?
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Gaston on April 04, 2023, 10:48:18 AM: Quote from: Gaston on April 03, 2023, 12:29:07 PM
I have found it. It is here : , strangely not having its own post.

Non respect of a SAS forum rule!
Links to other sites!!
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,66365.0.html

Sorry ! Completely forgot about it... and did not think bad, as there were various people searching for it... will genuflect 10 times for my penance.
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Epervier on April 04, 2023, 11:15:35 AM: Quote from: Gaston on April 04, 2023, 10:48:18 AM
... will genuflect 10 times for my penance.
Et l'apéro interdit pendant 1 semaine ! :D :D ;)
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Gaston on April 04, 2023, 12:07:50 PM: Purée... tu veux ma mort, toi !
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Flamer50 on April 04, 2023, 02:06:10 PM: Quote from: Gaston on April 04, 2023, 12:07:50 PM
Mashed potatoes... you want me dead!
No "mashies" for a week is a bit harsh but it beats doing Novenas.. ;D ;D

Cheers
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: dona on April 05, 2023, 02:54:22 PM: Kirk1965 - there will definitely be a PAF skin or two. ;)
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: dona on April 05, 2023, 02:56:25 PM: Have flown it around. All seems good maybe a bit under powered. PIT works well. Nice job!
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Frankiek on April 05, 2023, 03:03:28 PM: good as the pit that I used is borrowed from another plane I was thinking in giving this plane is own pit so people can tweak/modify without creating problems to the AT-11
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Gaston on April 05, 2023, 04:09:40 PM: Quote from: dona on April 05, 2023, 02:56:25 PM
Have flown it around. All seems good maybe a bit under powered. PIT works well. Nice job!

Same opinion. Seems a bit under-powered.
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Frankiek on April 05, 2023, 04:21:49 PM: I didn't really look at the FM i will check it out but is not going to be easy as this plane was used from the thirties up to the seventies so which variant an engine to adopt?
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Gaston on April 05, 2023, 10:55:45 PM: The UC-45F was the principal military variant, I think. And I think the 2 X 450 hp Pratt & Whitney R-985 should be correct.

Lots of infos here (https://www.skytamer.com/Beechcraft_C-45F(UC).html).
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: dona on April 20, 2023, 02:21:50 PM: Whenever it gets posted I will have some skins to share to get everyone started. Here's a sampling:

(https://i.postimg.cc/pX8sJZgT/2023-04-13-04-56-09.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ht1MHG4R/2023-04-14-20-35-18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XjwzbFs)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7LQ1kGpd/2023-04-19-03-54-14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBGTP23x)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZgK7JVh/2023-04-15-01-11-56.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hX7XgjmR)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pd9hK06c/2023-04-09-18-19-13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mcsgsSR7)
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Frankiek on April 20, 2023, 03:30:51 PM: The plane is still the one available in post #11 and skins are always welcome
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Airbourne on July 09, 2023, 11:55:04 AM: I'm having a lot of trouble with overheating. This makes it very difficult to fly the plane and if I take off on auto-pilot it overheats and crashes every time. Is there a serious problem here or am I just doing something wrong?
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Epervier on July 10, 2023, 02:49:29 AM: Quote from: Airbourne on July 09, 2023, 11:55:04 AM
I'm having a lot of trouble with overheating. This makes it very difficult to fly the plane and if I take off on auto-pilot it overheats and crashes every time. Is there a serious problem here or am I just doing something wrong?
Unless I'm mistaken, here's what I found that might explain your problem... unless I'm mistaken!
For BAT, this aircraft has an fmd (D18.fmd) which calls the emd included in the BAT buttons (M-25_Series.emd - motor M-22).
It contains the line :
TESPEED 0.021

For a long time now, people have preferred to cheat and set 0.007 or 0.009. :D :D ;)

Try this new external FM...
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Frankiek on July 10, 2023, 05:27:34 AM: At the time of finalizing this mod I used the already available FM that we should remember was conceived for an AI only plane. This FM is not really satisfactory and even the reference to the M-25 Series engine is historically wrong.

But in order to quickly made the flyable version available and minimize incompatibility with the previous version I kept the original FM. I also didn't had sufficient information on the engines actually used and the flying characteristic of this model. Moreover considering the very long service time for this plane (from the '30s to '70s) it would be quite challenging to workout an historically correct FM.

So user need to be patient and remember that AI never ever overheats. Let's say they have a very skillful engine management :).

In BAT there is also a second M25Series.emd that has a TESPEED of 0.021
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Airbourne on July 10, 2023, 08:16:43 AM: Many thanks Epervier, you have solved the problem for me. I understand why there was a problem and please don't think I am trying to be critical. Now I hope we are all happy.
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Vasya on July 10, 2023, 05:51:26 PM: New FM:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZESaS6Nt89LIZFge3nsLarRYjGPrXN94/view?usp=sharing
Image with dimensions.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ULwA31U7Nt5sf31T--rPx0qtb_UNDWYr/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Airbourne on July 11, 2023, 01:36:54 AM: Thank you Vasya. A positive embarras des richesses!
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Vasya on July 11, 2023, 02:44:39 AM: Quote from: Airbourne on July 11, 2023, 01:36:54 AM
Thank you Vasya. A positive embarras des richesses!
I'm sorry! - these words: "embarras de richesses!" Couldn't translate with google translate.
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Frankiek on July 11, 2023, 03:42:52 AM: It means that now he will be intrigued and face the dilemma to choose between the two, therefore "embarassed" due to the rich choice
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Vasya on July 11, 2023, 04:18:03 AM: Quote from: Frankiek on July 11, 2023, 03:42:52 AM
It means that now he will be intrigued and face the dilemma to choose between the two, therefore "embarassed" due to the rich choice
Thanks a lot for the clarification!
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Wrote the polar according to the profile schedule.
I wrote the dimensions and areas according to the drawing.
Also, this aircraft has a very strong forward center of gravity.
Centering returns to normal after filling the cabin with passengers and luggage.
Title: Re: UC-45
Post by: Airbourne on August 08, 2023, 03:24:19 AM: Any chance of a shadow for this lovely plane?