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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2009, 04:26:20 AM »

I still think it is the flat canopy mod. All I know it is not Fucida's bar out mod.
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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2009, 02:39:35 PM »

Cirx,
It's not the flat canopy mod my friend, I have it installed and here's a couple of shots of my version.






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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2009, 02:52:54 PM »

OK.

Have you managed to re-create the problem Beserker has and then verified that the flat canopy mod did not make it go away? If you did that it is definitely not that and we must look elsewhere.
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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2009, 03:55:30 PM »

I try to disable the Flat canopy MOD, and the problem persist.


The Fucida Bar out MOD is another of the first MOD of I installed in the sim, several months ago, and  also I try to disable, but no result   :'(

In his post here he did try to take it out....to no avail. I simply am stating that its not this mod....If everything is installed correctly then he should have no problems with that mod. So he can move on now to something else that may be giving him the problem....Although I he hasn't reported back any of his progess, so maybe he figured it out...
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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2009, 04:06:04 PM »

yes. This is caused by an interfering Hier.him file. Which means that he did not remove ALL the 190 mods before reporting. There is one there somewhere hidden. And it might have now started causing this because the load order of his mods have changed, iow he may have renamed some files and now they are loading in an order that is causing this. So it may well turn out to BE the fllat canopy mod, not because of itself, but because it is loading at the wrong stage. So, either the worng him file loading the right mesh or the right him file loading the wrong mesh.

So, these things are tricky but not hard to troubleshoot. Removing all 190 cokpit mods means searching both the files and mods folder, finding EVRYTHING that is in a 3do/cockits folder names anything with 190 in, and taking them all out (so you have the game's default cockpits. Then the problem will definitely be gone.

Then addidng one back and chacking, then take it out, add another...so forth. Then start with the combinations....

But it is gahard for me to help from here, ebcause I have all 190 cokpit mods and I tried them everywhoch way. Only one I dont have is flat canopy, which affect the planes mentioned, so, that is my gues. But it is a gues, which I can veryfy...perhaps I should get that flat canopy mod and try it...

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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2009, 05:00:19 PM »

OK, I got the flat canopy mod, and did some tests, here are the results:
(I dont test with flushy cockpit cause they will cause texture problems if any, not this sort of bug)

Flat canopy mod on its own        : FINE
Load Order: FlatCan;Fucida     : FINE

Load Order: Fucida;Flatcan        : BESERKER'S BUG

Load Order: Fucida;POV;FlatCan     : BESERKER'S BUG

Load Order:POV;Fucida;Flatcan :BESERKER'S BUG

Load Order:Flatcan;POV;Fucida    : FINE , but disables sections of barout mod

Load Order:Flatcan;Fucida;POV     : FINE , but disables sections of barout mod

Load Order: POV; Flatcan : :BESERKER'S BUG

Load Order: Flatcan;POV     : FINE

Load Order: Fucida(Including Fucida's Patch for Flatcanopy);POV;Flatcan  :FINE


Load Order: POV;Fucida(Including Fucida's Patch for Flatcanopy);Flatcan  :BESERKER'S BUG

Load Order: Flatcan;POV;Fucida(Including Fucida's Patch for Flatcanopy);Flatcan  :FINE , but disables sections of barout mod

Load Order: Flatcan;Fucida(Including Fucida's Patch for Flatcanopy);POV  :FINE , but disables sections of barout mod

So, there you have it. It IS a featuewe of flatcanopy. but not because of the mod, but because of shaky installing and superficial troubleshooting.

Also did some searching and found it is a known issue:
http://specialaircraftservice.com/main/index.php/topic,373.0.html

So, the solution is, either dont use Flatcanopy, or, Make it load before the other mods or, the best, make it load after the fucida mod, which should load first, and should be patched with fucida's Flatcanopy Patch.



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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2009, 06:15:42 PM »

No doubt its the installer's responsibility to check each mod after install to see if it works correctly or not. If I were to give him some advice it would be to always keep a log of what you installed, the order you installed it and to write down the date and times, as well as notes. This way you can always keep up to date with your game and its mods and any problems that may arise. I hope he can figure it out...

I for one don't use the POV mod, but I do have the others you mentioned.

So his choices according to your test are these and these only...

Load Order:

FlatCan;Fucida     : FINE

Flatcan;POV     : FINE

Fucida(Including Fucida's Patch for Flatcanopy);POV;Flatcan  :FINE

Thanks for the assistance and your time Cirx
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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2009, 02:06:58 AM »

cool. Well, I think we can considder this probelm well solved yes? :D
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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem ~SOLVED
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2009, 06:55:55 AM »

Hi.

First to all many many thanks for your efort and for your dedicated time  :D ;)  :D

   
   
I've been trying for several days, trying to solve the problem myself, but without success  :'(.

But one thing I do not understand, I havent Flat canopy MOD for the F8 models, and when I have installed the POV for Fw-190, the problems also appear in these model.


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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem ~SOLVED
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2009, 07:51:03 AM »

Who Knows!?

perhaps you put the flat canopy patch for Fucida's barout in for the F8 as well...?
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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem ~SOLVED
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2009, 08:12:57 AM »

   
I definitely have located the problem (with your invaluable help), but I do not know how to solve.

I have installed Flat canopy MOD for A8 A9 and D9 models and works fine.
I havent installed POV mod, creates some problems for me, and I think I'm not going to use it.
And finally I have installed Fucida bar out MOD for all the Fw-190.

With this last mod, this happens to me. A3/4/5/6/8/9 F8 D11 and D13 works correctly, but wiht D9 and D9 Late "Berserkers bug" appears again  ???.
If inside Fucidas MOD I disabled the D9 and D9 Late, the bug dissapear, but the infamous bar appear in front the Revi  ???
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Re: Fw-190 cockpit problem ~SOLVED
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2009, 09:20:36 AM »

Ok. Problem definitely solved

Many thanks to all
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