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[HundertzehnGustav]

Dear redrum.

With all my respect  for your desire to pull through this alone, on your own, and with the will to learn a maximum out of your situation, please let me quote you:

i used the one that came with my computer and it was not compatible with my motherboard.
that does not match
i know what im doing,

im spending enough money as it is upgrading my computer
does not justify this
the reason im not sending it to a pro

im spending enough money as it is upgrading my computer
is not compatible with
i have to learn from my mistakes

i have to learn from my mistakes
leads to
, it will be about 3 weeks still (and further bullshit we both do not like)


Let me put it plainly, Kid.
Look, i for one would love, and i mean that! really love to get you dude started.  I wouldn´t mind driving a few miles, haul my tools over to your place and get your hardware together, test it, then put the desired software on it, configure it, and have you running by the time the sun sets.

But, as you say:
-You do not have a clue what you are doing,
-You are wasting your time, the longer it takes for your computer to materialize, the older the thing will be.
-You are taking big risks at wasting your (Parents?) money due to errors and lack of knowledge and equipment. Take a dollar, and throw it out the window. Repeat that all night long, anywhere between 50 and 500 times.
-You stubbornly refuse to get some half/or full professional person on this to help you out.

Let me offer you one last piece of advice:
Stop throwing Money out of your window, invest one Hour of time, and go talk to a pro. There are People like me, who have fun, do this kind of thing for a living, and as a past time.
You want to learn? You wanna do this the hard way?
Okay. Find someone, who is in the know, willing to help you.
Go to that persons working space, and let them at least supervise you while you assemble your PC. Let them slap on your wrist, BEFORE you commit mistakes. Let them, in the process explain you how its done. You will be the customer buying their time and supervision, You will be given.

It might cost you some, a a fifty.
a hundred.
But, consider this:
-it will be YOUR knowledge you have gathered.
-It will be YOUR  Box that will run properly for months and years to come,
...compared to weekly problems when doing things on your own.
-It will be YOUR thing entirely, YOUR project - YOU chose whom to do this with, YOU dictated how you wanted to do it, and YOU paid someone to show you. YOU negotiated the price, and YOU will have done a wise choice for the years to come.

okay.
I see you are all ready to kick my ass, pretending i am an Outdated Oldtimer and should trust you youngsters, "cut you some slqck" as they say (?), blah.
I understand.
Ignore that feeling and take my advice.
Do it the right way, do it with a tech.

Over and out.

[RedrumSalad]

I would like to take it to a pro as much as u want me to, believe me. But all the signs of my computer lead to the cpu being the only problem. No image, no beeps from the speaker, but everything on the mobo works, the computer starts, it lights up, everything. Just no image or beePs, which leads to incompatible cpu. I know that i made plenty of mistakes doing this, and that if i could go back, id do it your guys's way without going in basically blind. But i actually believe that my only problem has ever been incompatibility. That i havent looked into that enough. I realize this. Whats going thru my mind right now is that im wishing that i had that cpu so i wouldnt have to be typing all this on my iPod. Im sorry for giving you guys some BS that didnt help either of us, becuz i should really be thanking you guys for sticking with me thru this no matter how little sense i have made. Thanks for that.

[HundertzehnGustav]

Well, i hope that the CPU being of the wrong type is REALLY the only thing holding you back.
Again....

...u want me to, believe me.
, which leads to incompatible cpu.
But i actually believe that my only problem

those three things, with twice the word "believe", my boss taught me to avoid this thing as much as i can, and go with actual facts instead of beliefs. Wich is to me frustrating cause i am not there and cannot take a look at your hardware, and let you show me what you have done.

Say, what holds you back from handing your stuff over to a pro or semi-pro? That is a thing that i never quite understood. Name me tree of your personal reasons?
Hoping you are right, and that the right CPU will light up your screen like a Christmas tree...

Leon

[RedrumSalad]

1. Pros cost money that i dont have and my parents are not willing to pay.
2. I live in the middle of bumb-f*** nowhere, the nearest town with a pro is 45 minutes away, which i cant do cuz i cant drive, and my parents dont want to drive there after a day at work, and the weekends are "for resting" so they wont then either.
3. im more of a "let me do it myself" type of guy, anyway. which can be a major flaw of my persona, but also can help me develop my skills at this age.

[Frankiek]

fine however please note the following:

1) you have already waisted a certain amount of scarce monetary resources and people time by adopting "let me do it myself" techniques. I am also sure that if you kindly ask your parents for support they would also prefer to settle the bill one and for all for a reasonable amount rather than paying twice  for burnout equipment.

2) the best and easiest way to develop your skill is to stick near a person that knows what you want to learn, learning by error is a very inefficient way. If you want to know were is the nearest gas station just ask somebody in town rather than try all the possible roads in front of you.
 

you are a smart boy and it is fine but just don't let your personal pride get the upper hand otherwise you may end up waiting more than the traditional two weeks

[HundertzehnGustav]

well then, give us a shout  at the moment that CPU arrives.
--> BEFORE you try and put it in, take some Google-is-your-friend time and find a few recent (2008-2011) articles on how to install a CPU, a GPU and RAM. also "Best practices in Hardware" or some such search words are what you could use to make sure that the hardware you have assembled so far is assembled the right way.

*thumbs up*

[RedrumSalad]

Thanks, but ive already been to plenty of "how to install..." sites. my friend got a 1 month subscription to this computer builder site and he let me use his account to learn what i needed to. they had all these videos on how to install everything, how to build a computer in general, hell, it even showed where to place the disk drive and hdd where they will make the less noise. i know how to install everything by watching about every video on that site, its just compatibility problems and a DOA gpu that also fried my power supply. but the DOA i fixed by getting a replacement from newegg for no charge, and a refund for the power supply to get a better one at the same price.

[GeneralPsycho]

Good luck is all I can say to you. Get that replacement CPU.

[RedrumSalad]

ill get it when i get my grades up -_-

[HundertzehnGustav]

grades upgraded?

[RedrumSalad]

yeah but....of course, life isnt easy. my parents had to fix a few things and now are a lil low on money, and the earliest i can get my cpu is May. but i've got another question, and it's about my new ASUS ENGT240 1GB gpu that's sitting in my computer while i await getting a new cpu, is it not as good as my old GeForce 9500GT 1GB gpu? because i was told this on a different forum after asking how well my new build would run arma 2, and i want a confirmation. it seems like it would be better with a newer directx ver (no opengl version listed ) newer type of memory, more stream processors, and a larger effective memory clock, but is it a step up...or down? jw.

links:
9500GT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130395

GT240 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121353&Tpk=asus%20gt240

[GeneralPsycho]

GT240 is about 40%-60% faster than 9500gt. 9500gt is shit.

GT240 is a pretty good overclocker because it uses very little electricity and its memory(GDDR5) is fast. But you have a GDDR3 memory which is abismal at its best nowadays, just enough to run Il2-1946 on max settings. ARMA 2 will not run on max settings on gt240, or it will be unplayable.