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[gianluca]

I know this feature is inside the v2.5 of AI hotkeys etc etc which goes in DBW 1.71 and I have it also as standalone in my 409UP201 install but at least for one plane it does not work: try downing a Letov S-328 and you will still get shot right dead straigth as always....
I wonder if there could be a fix for this!

Best regards,

Gianluca

[SAS~Malone]

lol, i gotta admit, that S-328 rear gunner is like an uber cyborg sniper, deadliest rear gunner of WW2....
must be something specific with that plane, i don't have any real complaints about other planes, but the last place you want to be is on the six of one of them Letov's...

[panzer1b]

lol, i gotta admit, that S-328 rear gunner is like an uber cyborg sniper, deadliest rear gunner of WW2....
must be something specific with that plane, i don't have any real complaints about other planes, but the last place you want to be is on the six of one of them Letov's...

i noticed that the turret gunner in that plane was overpowered from the start as it has very very very fast tracking speed, honestly i think all planes should have this speed with the exception of maybee electric turrets which had a historical limit to max turn speed. 

as for the accuracy of the thing i love it online, and with the cockpit it is byfar my favorite byplane because every other guyt who is dumb enough to get on my tail gets headshot....

anyways seriously im not sure why that one plane has different turret code but it is quiet annoying fighting againt the things.  as i learned a while ago turn speed and the accuracy from pre-4.11 is horrendously overpowered, but as it is right now gunners have no chance to even do minimal damage as they spend half the time turning to face the enemy.  Id just plain love if maybee 4.12 or something fixed this HUGE problem but until then im just hoping something can be done for 4.11 as to address this issue.

and as for the s328 i think its not to big of a deal as its a rarely seen or used plane but if possible that could be fixed as well, not sure though where its code would be as its clearly not using the main ai turret code all other planes do.

well ill be waiting for this much needed fix, does anyone know where i could post a suggestion to the actual il2 dev team to maybee get this in the next patch?

[SAS~Malone]

post at the 1C forum, linked in our Links section.

[Tran Long]

Did DBW already have this mod?

[SAS~Malone]

yes, but many thought it didn't work properly in DBW.
if you think it's not working, then you could just try this, and see if it makes a difference.

[Tran Long]

Thanks, Malone

[printenduevel]

Sorry for pushing that old thread to the top, but I don't wanted to start a new topic und used the search function.
And also sorry for bad english, I use the google translator.

Well, I fly since a few month with the guys from FAC squadron and enjoy the friendly and funny atmosphere there.
For this I have installed 4.10 with UP and I got knowledge about a mod which made the turret gunner from bombers more realistic.
Unfortuntely this mod doesn't work with 4.12 with or without HSFX or 4.13 versions.

In newer versions like 4.12.x and 4.13.x although the gunner are no more sniper and hit the player pilots with the first shot directly into the head.
But it seems to me that the AI gunner's behavior is different to the AI fighter pilots than to human pilots.
My impression is that the AI Gunner hit more accurately and with a higher success rate the human pilots.
They also recognize the human enemy much earlier and begin shooting, before a human pilot come in a reasonable distance to open the fire.
When I fly a bomber I always have the impression that the gunner are very bad, especially when AI Fighter attack.

Therefore it would be very nice, when this mod will be updated. This will make life a little bit easier when attacking bombers.

Thanks in advance
Printe

[SAS~Storebror]

They also recognize the human enemy much earlier and begin shooting, before a human pilot come in a reasonable distance to open the fire.

That's physics.
German fighter pilots can tell endless stories about it.

When I fly a bomber I always have the impression that the gunner are very bad, especially when AI Fighter attack.

That's just the biased perception when you feel like the tide is against you all the time.

Best regards - Mike

[printenduevel]

I like your kind of humor 

[Atoka220]

Confirmed
Crash with 4.12 hsfx7
Goddamn those snipers

Here's a logfile maybe

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[27.02.2018 12:37:57] ------------ BEGIN log session -------------
OpenGL provider: Opengl32.dll
OpenGL library:
  Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
  Render: GeForce 9600 GT/PCIe/SSE2
  Version: 3.3.0
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Size: 1920x1080
ColorBits: 32
DepthBits: 24
StencilBits: 8
isDoubleBuffered: true

*** Looking for Advanced CPU Instructions...
[x] PentiumPro
[x] Multimedia (MMX)
[x] 3D (SSE)
[x] 3D (SSE2)
[-] 3D (3DNow)
ColourBits 32, ABits 0, ZBits 24

*** Looking for Render API Extensions ...
[-] 'GL_EXT_paletted_texture' extension - Palettized textures (8 bit RGBA palette).
[-] 'GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array' extension - Compiled Vertex arrays.
[-] 'GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint' extension - Frustum clipping optimization.
[x] 'GL_EXT_secondary_color' extension - Secondary Color for 3D fog & specular optimization.
[x] 'GL_EXT_separate_specular_color' extension - SeparateSpecular for 3D fog & specular optimization.
[x] 'GL_ARB_multitexture' extension - Multitexturing.
[x] 'GL_EXT_texture_env_combine' extension - Multitextures advanced combining for special effects.
[x] 'GL_NV_texture_env_combine4' extension - Multitextures advanced combining for special effects.
[x] 'GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3' extension - Dot3 Bump advanced combining.
[x] 'GL_NV_depth_clamp' extension - Corrects Shadows rendering
[x] 'GL_NV_texture_shader' extension - NV Pixel Shaders
[x] 'GL_ARB_texture_compression' extension - Saves texture memory by 400%
[x] 'GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic' extension - Anisotropic texture filtering.

Maximum texture size : 8192
Maximum simultaneous textures :4
MaxAnisotropic (1.0 = none) : 16.000000
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0 -> 1 (delta = 1) to Range 1..512
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0 -> 1 (delta = 1) to Range 1..512
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0 -> 1 (delta = 1) to Range 1..512
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0 -> 1 (delta = 1) to Range 1..512
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0 -> 1 (delta = 1) to Range 1..512
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0 -> 1 (delta = 1) to Range 1..512
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0 -> 1 (delta = 1) to Range 1..512
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0 -> 1 (delta = 1) to Range 1..512
INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0 -> 1 (delta = 1) to R
Edit: Nevamind. LOG=1 crashes my game at 70%. This mod crashes when mission loading reaches 30%

[Tokyo_Express_420]

Any news on a 4.12 adaption?

- Tokyo Express