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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2011, 08:58:23 AM »

I'm pretty sure this can be done.
Now who will rise to the "challenge"...  :P
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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2011, 04:23:27 PM »

Oberst Danjeje,

                     Negative, the A-5 had the same span as the A-4 - in fact it was the first A Model to have this wingspan - the A-5 went into service before the A-4 as the A-4 was awaiting the new and more powerful Jumo 211J (1350 hp) supercharged engines which were slow to be delivered. The need for more of the now proven aircraft consequently forced the A-5 to be produced before the A-4, with one of a few versions of the 1200 hp Jumos, and incorporating several features which combat had shown the A-1 to lack :
-more defensive MGs, more robust intrinsic structure/airframe
-greater wingspan (same as A-4 ... 65' 10 1/2 ")
-strengthened landing gear

As far as I can ascertain, the only external visible differences between the A-4 and A-5 was that the A-5 had 2 additional ETC 250 kg bombracks outboard of the engines - these were removed from the A-4 , although I suspect that they could have been retrofitted in the field. The A-5 was also the first operational model to have the bulged rear canopy blisters for the defensive MGs in the rear greenhouse, though I suspect their inclusion pretty much parrallelled their introduction into the A-4 series. I guess optimally each of the A-4 and A-5 should be represented by early and late models, with the early versions being slower firing MG15s and flat rear canopy panels, and late versions of each model wielding MG18s and bulged rear canopies.


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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2011, 10:48:58 AM »

eheh, I was wrong :(
I must admit, bad memory ;)
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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2011, 12:16:38 PM »

Welcome to the swiss cheese memory club!
I have questionable research methods from time to time to complicate matters - usually due to excitement to get an idea out there before I forget it! At least if I get it out there wrong, it's still out there, and one of you fellows will correct me!

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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2011, 05:10:09 AM »

guess what?



Ju-88G fitted with an FI A 103Z gun pack
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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2011, 12:44:33 PM »

Nice image Stranger,

                            And I guess I asked for this as I started the waffenbehalter commentary.
While I think the Ju88G is a mucho importo missing link to date, I really wanted this thread to be about filling in the models of the Ju88A variants. We could have an entire (and very interesting) thread on waffenbehalters!
I thought considering the Ju88As we already have in game, the 3 models I listed (A-1, A-5, and the A-13 ground attack) would provide a pretty complete Ju88A stable. I hoped to encourage some enterprising modders out there with a bit of mod lust to take up one of these.

sincerely,

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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2011, 04:55:11 PM »

yep, total random addiction of mine, but i find rather interesting that triple air intake right under the cockip..plus the name i found for this pack is nowere to be found..google was useless...i'm puzzled.
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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2011, 03:30:47 PM »

As for the ground strafers from what I understand they were ad hoc like the He-111H of "eis" KG just fitted out with guns like a B-25 and used against troop concentrations when you didn't have a Ju-88C-6 handy. These were used at Kharkov alongside the C-6 for example, by the two specialist KG staffeln (I'd really like it if someone could tell me what the subtitle "Eis" for KG equipped with gunships might translate as).


IIRC, "Eis" was short for "Eisenbahn" - railroad. English-speakers might refer to them as "train-killers" or "train-hunters".

Fascinating post BTW. I was going to decommission my C6 mod as I figured I could never really use it on the Russian Front. But you have given me some interesting ideas for mission-writing.
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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2011, 03:21:54 AM »

Hello guys. I don't know, whether it's the right place to ask for it...:

I use Ultrapack 2.01 (without the 4.10 or 4.101 stock). And there sound all german airplanes, using a Junkers Jumo 211 or related 2xx engines very poor. Is anywhere a mod existing with nice Junkers Jumo 211 sounds?

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dumpti
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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2011, 06:42:41 AM »

FI A 103Z gun pack? It seems more a  R/C turret.  Can someone find documentation about it?
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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2011, 02:02:26 PM »

FI A 103Z gun pack? It seems more a  R/C turret.  Can someone find documentation about it?

that's what the photo said, but i found no data regarding such a turret/payload anywhere
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Re: Filling Out the Ju88As (A-1, A-5, A-13)
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2011, 02:17:46 PM »

Any love for the Ju88A's that have been forgotten?

Ju88A-1 , Ju88A-5 , Ju88A-13
A-1 note divebrakes

A-5 note ETC 250 racks



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