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[Hubberranz]

...thanks Vasya, and thanks to Dimon for the new slot.

testing:  new 3D^ model in Dimon's slot does work. + the suberb loadouts.

However 550429BA3B8BB6A2 in itself is a commonality ; it does not support existence of two slots:
old   air.I_180    and      air.I_180NEW     
...just one at a time.
...back to file switching.
...thanks anyway.

[Vasya]

reserving
...thanks Vasya, and thanks to Dimon for the new slot.

testing:  new 3D^ model in Dimon's slot does work. + the suberb loadouts.

However 550429BA3B8BB6A2 in itself is a commonality ; it does not support existence of two slots:
old   air.I_180    and      air.I_180NEW     
...just one at a time.
...back to file switching.
...thanks anyway.

I'm on the road, I can't translate, sorry for the inconvenience.
There are 3 mods for I-180.
The first - from Lakota (Dmitry from the forum "Reserve Airfield") - he has 3D from I-185.
This year I made 3 new slots that exist in 2 versions: for patch 4.10/4.09 and for late patches 4.12+++.
The second is from Dimon 2018-19 - a 3D of which is almost authentic to the historic I-180, but this 3D has some meshing/mapping issues.
The third is from modder 101tfs, whose 3D is authentic to the historical prototype number 3, with the small exception of the center of the airframe in 3D-Max, the center of the airframe does not coincide with the center of mass by approximately 50-70 centimeters.
All 3 types of mods I-180 pysaf fmd and emd.
Also, in 2019, he adjusted the slots for the 2 variant from Dimon.
The second and third versions of I-180 mods are not compatible.
The same FM file has different content.
If you need to install the I-180 mod from Dimon separately, then I will make a separate class for this mod.
But I can do it only after 7-8 hours.
Now at work.

(В дорозі, не маю змоги перекласти, вибачте за незручності.
Існує 3 мода для І-180.
Перший - від Лакоти(Дмитрій із форума "Запасний аеродром") - він має 3Д від І-185.
В цьому році я зробив 3 нових слота, які існують в 2 варіантах: для патча 4.10/4.09 та для пізніх патчів 4.12+++.
Другий - від Дімона 2018-19 років - 3Д якого майже аутентичне історичного І-180,
 але це 3Д має певні проблеми з сіткою/маппінгом.
Третій - від модера 101тфс, 3Д якого автентичне історичному прототипу номер 3,
за невеликим винятком центру планера в 3Д-Макс, не співпадає центр планера з центром мас приблизно на 50-70 сантиметрів.
Всім 3 видам модів І-180 писав фмд та ємд.
Також в 2019 році для 2 варінта від Дімона корегував слоти.
Другий та третій варіанти модів І-180 не сумісні
(вже сумісні, якщо використовувати варіант від 2 липня 2023 року).
Однаковий файл з фм має різне наповнення.
Якщо потрібно окремо поставити мод І-180 від Дімона, то зроблю окремий класс для цього моду.
Але зможу це зробити тільки через 7-8 годин(зробив та поклав на Гугл-диск - дивитися наступний мій пост).
Зараз на роботі.)

[Vasya]

...............
Test was done, then the answer and thanks were given.

I-180-NEW-4.09 ByDimon
Put on google drive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y_MIaTmO14I1R6ikli2LhQS0awSyrz00/view
The previous 2019 version needs to be uninstalled.
Tested in patch 4.10.1 with engine mod 2.6.
The mod can work in patch 4.09.
Diffim is in the archive in a separate folder under the MODS folder.
Fixed work of supercharging in emd.
The file with flight models is the same for all three I-180 mods.
It is better to use the latest from 02-07-2023.
In file "air.ini" please write:

Code: [Select]

I-180N-2          air.I_180N_2 1                        NOINFO  r01   SUMMER
I-180N-4          air.I_180NEW_ByDimon 1                NOINFO  r01   SUMMER


[Hubberranz]

 ..preliminary testing in 412 results: the two 3D models can coexist. This makes possible using all skins available in two individual folders.

slot:                       I-180N-2          air.I_180N_2 1                        NOINFO  r01     SUMMER
is compatible with     https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,64966.msg713437.html#msg713437  old falty gear version.
...I-180N-2 old frame, features 'old pit model' and different plane+cockpit file names; ..if added new pit and name, works...^

slot:                       I-180N-4                that  request   i-180-new-m-88f.fmd   is not compatible to the SAS mod, or similar.

Will try with 3 engines mod replacing SAS and added Dimon's two slots. Hum, I smell a conflict in same plane file name. So, only new 3D available.
Will try Dimon stand alone, but expect of that there will be only the old fashion.     

[Hubberranz]

Tentative solution to having all skins sorted and available. Remove any earlier version.
Trial run:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/3nwwr9cyaf1ebhi/!+I-180_for_412_models_and_skins.7z/file

The solution is not for performance sake (FM), but for the coexistence of two different models.

Many thanks to Dimon, Vasya and  101rst.

[Vasya]

            ...possible pack for 412 offering...
                ...or at least an addon to the SAS model, entries and skins relocated.

I must add:
Thanks to Dimon and Vasya.

Maybe because here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,64966.msg713437.html#msg713437
Mod I-180 (according to your link) from modder 101tfs is not the newest version, but is a compilation of mod I-180 from Dimon and classes from fm that I prepared for the original mod I-180 from Dimon.
In 2021, I downloaded a newer version of 3D and classes from modder 101tfs, so I used classes with new names that would be historically more reliable from class samples of the already improved I-180 mod from modder 101tfs.
I advise you not to use the compilation at the link https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,64966.msg713437.html#msg713437
and the more advanced 3D from the same modder.
Sorry for the possible inconvenience of reading my words!
I use Google Translate.
( Можливо тому що тут:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,64966.msg713437.html#msg713437
Мод І-180 (за вашим посиланням) від модера 101тфс не є самим новим варіантом,
 а є компіляцією мода І-180 від Дімона та класів з фм що я готував для оригінального мода І-180 від Дімона.
В 2021 році я скачував більш новіший варіант 3До і класів від модера 101тфс, тому класи з новими назвами,
 що історично були б більш достовірними, використав із зразків класів вже вдосконаленого мода І-180 від модера 101тфс.
Раджу користуватися не компіляцією за посиланням
 https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,64966.msg713437.html#msg713437
а більш вдосконаленим 3До від того самого модера.
Вибачте за можливі незручності з прочитання моїх слів!
Користуюсь гугл-перекладачем. )

[Hubberranz]

In 2021, I downloaded a newer version of 3D and classes from modder 101tfs, so I used classes with new names that would be historically more reliable from class samples of the already improved I-180 mod from modder 101tfs.
I advise you not to use the compilation at the link https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,64966.msg713437.html#msg713437
and the more advanced 3D from the same modder.

Ok ...
101rst's  I-180 v3.0  2020.     More advanced 3D is not usable on it's own. It requires the full mod to correct the gear pos. problem.

[Vasya]

In 2021, I downloaded a newer version of 3D and classes from modder 101tfs, so I used classes with new names that would be historically more reliable from class samples of the already improved I-180 mod from modder 101tfs.
I advise you not to use the compilation at the link https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,64966.msg713437.html#msg713437
and the more advanced 3D from the same modder.

Ok ...
101rst's  I-180 v3.0  2020.     More advanced 3D is not usable on it's own. It requires the full mod to correct the gear pos. problem.

What problems are you talking about?
Link to full mod.
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost.php?p=212413&postcount=230

[Hubberranz]

V3 has no problem.             was:   I Cannot repair V1 with it. 
Progress is made.    Release is possible of two slots for 412:   old mapping and new mapping.   

Plane.properties:

I-180N-2          I-180, 1938  early
I-180               I-180, 1940  new3D

The solution works presently in my game 412.2 SAS 5.3 heavily modded.
Option 1:  you permit I post this solution for others.
Option 2:  my little project ends.
Option 3:  tentatively posted; ended.

[Vasya]

V3 has no problem.     Cannot repair V1 with it.             
         

It is difficult to understand what you want to repair.
If possible, please attach a picture of the problem in the I-180 mods that you found.

[Hubberranz]

... I cannot post pictures anymore; mediafire has changed the rules on me (upgrade).

The original version (V1) stands on it's tows: the main gear covers and tail-wheel stood straight up and at wrong angle.
You linked to the pictures you asked for.

http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost.php?p=212413&postcount=230

So I cannot use a falty V1, and you did suggest me not to. Cannot retrofit the improvements into it either.
There is no problem to solve ( I hope so ).

Post #52  was updated.

[Frankiek]

you don't need mediafire to upload a pic you can attach any picture (in different formats) directly in your post; just use the add image to post function directly below the text box