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[Schwieger]

Taiho: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_aircraft_carrier_Taih%C5%8D



Length:   260.6 m (855 ft 0 in)
Beam:   27.4 m (89 ft 11 in)
Draft:   9.6 m (31 ft 6 in)
Speed:   33 kn
Armament:   12 × 100 mm/65 cal anti-aircraft guns; 51 × 25 mm anti-aircraft guns

Shinano: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinano_class_aircraft_carrier



Length:   266 m (872 ft 8 in)
Beam:   36.3 m (119 ft 1 in) waterline; 40 m (131 ft 3 in) flight deck
Draft:   10.8 m
Speed:   27 kn
Armament:   16 × 127 mm dual purpose guns; 145 × 25 mm Type 96 AA guns
12 × 28-barreled 127 mm (5.0 in) anti-aircraft rocket launchers[2]
Armor:   

Was hoping someone could help flesh out the Japanese carrier fleet a bit...
These are good ships, and among my favourite carriers.

[fabianfred]

before more carriers I'd like to see the proper Japanese BB and CC and US ones too.

[IJNfan_PL]

Since we already have in game Yamato, Iowa and several USN CA's, then it can be worth to refresh this idea?

[bren]

+1. Most wanted carriers for IJN'46.

[asheshouse]

+1. Most wanted carriers for IJN'46.

I would rather see more of the light carriers, like the Hiyo Class, than another fleet carrier.
There were two of those built, one surviving to the end of the war, the other being sunk at the Philippines. There is much more scope for using ships of those types in historically based missions. -- They also look pretty cool with the funnels raked at a crazy angle.

[ben_wh]

I would rather see more of the light carriers, like the Hiyo Class, than another fleet carrier.
There were two of those built, one surviving to the end of the war, the other being sunk at the Philippines. There is much more scope for using ships of those types in historically based missions. -- They also look pretty cool with the funnels raked at a crazy angle.

Agree.  There are quite a few 'workhorse' warships that would be useful for IL-2.  Much attention is paid to modding new planes but having realistic ships (such as the great work done by yourself, asheshouse, and those by western) make historic missions come to life.  For example, having the HMS Eagle in the Malta convoy missions makes a significant difference.

Still remember the old CFS2 days when some talented modders decided to mod a good numbers of warships - some are developed such that you can stand in the bridge of these ships in custom-made missions.  The 3D models were quite remarkable:

One of the authors MAS:
Junyo (1942 version)



Another artist:

Zuikaku (1942 version)


Ryuho


And some nice battleships too, like the Kongo


And of course the Yamato


More here:  http://www.geocities.jp/usio_no_ibuki/index.htm

Cheers,

[Sleepingdragon]

DITTO!!   They had also just built the Boise and St. Louise class lt cruisers, with different armament for the time periods if i remember correctly. They were incredible. having just the basic ships is really needed for a level of accuracy approaching realism. I know they can't build them all, but the single. But the CFS2 was just so blasted unstable and poorly designed program wise that i had to give up on it. My "87 Days of Cactus" cmpn was a year of steady work, was well liked by all who could get it to work, but so few could get it (or other cmpns) to work correctly. Driving miss Daisy syndrome caused flights of Betties to taxi across the ground to their target etc. I dove into IL-2 the day it was on the shelf and never looked back.

But these two IJN CVs are fascinating subjects. Never saw the AA rocket before, and  thought I knew all their AA Weapons. THose two ships were about the size of a Midway class CV. They just didn't have an air-wing to put aboard. I think Taiho got nailed by a US sub that waited for it outside Tokyo bay.

This guy made some dioramas with some interesting JP carriers, including the TAIHO, including one of the above. Gives an interesting perspective.


An alternate history scenario could use those, if they just had trained pilots. They had the planes, but few to fly them. I also wonder if it's possible to spot the deck a bit more realistically w/o the props touching the tails of the AC in front of you.

And please don't make all that AA operational, as they will be unapproachable even on rookie. I recommend that Ships covered in AA like that should only have a third at most of those weapons actually function. They will still be lethal. 

And PLEASE, if any modders do these ships (or any others), use textures that make them usable. 

 

[western0221]

More here:  http://www.geocities.jp/usio_no_ibuki/index.htm

I'm interested in this CFS2 ships data.

Does someone know how to export-import these CFS2 ships 3D into IL-2 1946 msh or 3ds Max?

[352nd_Hoss]

I have noticed that there are a bunch of Japanese Destroyers, Carriers, Lite Carriers, Generic Battleship and now the Yamato, but only one old lightly gunned Light Cruiser (Kuma).  We don't have any of the Heavy or light cruisers that took part in Coral Sea, Midway, Guadalcanal, Philippines, Okinawa....

Found this and thought it was kind of neat.



http://www.combinedfleet.com/Junyokan.htm

The Tone was the IJN Cruiser that launched it's patrol plane late at Midway.............. 

Battle of Coral Sea first engagement was the IJN lite Carrier Shoho, 4 heavy cruisers and one Destroyer. 

The RN only has one cruiser too I believe... we are finally getting USN cruisers, which adds a nice dimension to task force configurations in missions we FMB freaks love to make.  But all the USN Destroyers are two stackers, there are some nice single stack destroyers  (Benham class) we are missing too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_destroyer_classes_of_the_United_States_Navy

Of course this is not the request page, I was just exposing some of the things I see in the the FMB lists everytime I go to make a Naval style mission.  I will use stand-ins for these situations.  I'm just glad to see some modders taking on the different ground vehicles, ships, armor that most take for granted because they never come down low enough to see these little works of art and blow the hell out of them............ ???

Cheers

[western0221]

I have a Nagara class IJN light cruiser 3D model data.

I've got Mr.Makura's permission to import this model into IL-2 1946.
This Nagara CL isn't superior in my tasks.
After 3...4... or more months to begin it.
Now I want to finish or begin other ships / aircrafts.


By the way...
How about gio963tto's USS Sims class destroyer?
I think his Sims MOD is good at generic USS single stack destroyer like Benham class.

[ben_wh]

More here:  http://www.geocities.jp/usio_no_ibuki/index.htm

I'm interested in this CFS2 ships data.

Does someone know how to export-import these CFS2 ships 3D into IL-2 1946 msh or 3ds Max?

Hi western,

You probably know more about this but I came across this thread elsewhere on this site:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=7496.0

regarding conversion of CFS2 models.  One challenge could be the details of these ships, many of them have internal structure and crew stations built out.

By the way, thank you very much for all your work on the mods that enhance the naval warfare in IL-2.

Sleepingdragon:  CFS2 did have some flaws but its strength is its moddability - this enabled an incredible variety and numbers of mods to be built for it (like turning it into a ship sim):

View of the IJN Heavy Cruiser Chikuma from the bridge of the Destroyer Mutsuki



Cheers,