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Author Topic: A Quick View of the B109G Models and Info With Other Production Variants  (Read 2713 times)

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Useful but one should stress the complication by late 44 of the sheer proliferation of fits and parts so that ultimately the only way to determine type for some airframes is to trace the history of its werk nummer. Basically all possible combinations and variations of the entire G-family appeared among G-14 and G-10 aircraft in the field, with mod designations rather than type designations for each to simplify production lines. Still a nightmare for assembly I imagine. One popular G-14 fit for example was just a field updated G-6 airframe with new radios and MW50 fitted, then a new werk nummer was stamped in the G-14 series right over the top of the old G-6 one. Similarly it can be very hard to differentiate between historical examples of a G-10 or a K-4, and G-14 built in Jan 45 were pretty much a G-10 using the new ASB motor which is just like a DB.

You can basically tell a G-2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 8 apart at a glance but after that it just blurs really badly.
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Yes, as stated in the article that the late final Messerschmitt variants of the model G-10's had no uniform build, but were a mixture variants and combinations of new and remanufactured airframes of earlier model G's.

Bf 109G-10 work number 611943 of the Grand Canyon division of the Planes of Fame.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/1999/10/stuff_eng_detail_bf109g10.htm

Messerschmitt Bf 109G-10 located at the National Museum of the United States Air Force.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet_media.asp?fsID=505

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/1999/10/stuff_eng_detail_bf109g10_fuselage.htm

List of surviving Messerschmitt Bf 109s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_Messerschmitt_Bf_109s
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Thankfully WNF and Erla built G-10's are easily recognized by the 'bulge' structure and also camo and marking styles.
Mtt Regensburg aircraft are a little different as the were rebuilds but the camo style lets slip.
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List of surviving Messerschmitt Bf 109s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_Messerschmitt_Bf_109s

A side note, the 109-G6 in Australia is the one Currently displayed in the War Memorial, and the only surviving 109 with it's orginal paintwork.
http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/striking/planes/german/bf109.asp

Apparently the original owner bought it in the mid to late 50's under the condition that it was not resold outside of Australia.  One day a customers officer was being nosy during an inspection and happened upon the swastika on the tail section.  Seems the owner was trying to ship it to a buyer in South Africa in the 70's IIRC and it was confiscated and placed in restoration in Mitchell.  Story was told by the curator of the AWM Mitchell Depot. If your ever in Canberra do yourself a favour and visit it as well as the AWM.
Sorry for the offtopic :D
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An interesting story about the Australian Bf-109. Thank's

A little more about the 163824's history.

Built at Regensburg in mid 1943 or early 44 , its combat history is unknown, but it sustained thirty percent damage in a ground collision with another 109 on 12.8.44 at Flugplatz Rheine, Germany. At that time it was assigned to Flzg.Überführ.G. 1 ( a headquarters unit ). The aircraft underwent a major rebuild at Ludwig Hansen & Co Aircraft Repair Depot in December 1944, noted by the small hand painted legend "MCY 31.12.44" in white under the cockpit. It was discovered without tactical markings at Eggebeck airfield , Germany in May 1945 and selected as a museum exhibit, being transported to the U.K. Following shipment to Australia it was acquired by the AWM.

In 1949 the 109 was transferred to RAAF Laverton, and then to Tocumwal. Handed over to the AWM for storage at Duntroon in 1955 it spent eight years there. The museum decided to dispose of the machine to release enough storage space for the aircraft that were considered by the AWM to be of highest historical value ( Lancaster, Spitfire, Wirraway ).


A site with the Bf 109G-6/U4/R3 WNr.163824 Brett Green photos taken while the aircraft was broke down into parts.

Note that the aircraft has a rebuild date painted on the side of the fuselage... 31-12-44 and was containing parts from G-5, G-6 and G-10 aircraft.

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/luftcambg_2.htm
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