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[CWMV]

It's in UP3.

[SAS~Anto]

Ah yes it's in UP3. I know, because I spent many weeks putting it in there

[CWMV]

Any word on when the new canopy frame for early Emil's will make it into this pack and into UP3?

[SAS~Anto]

At some stage we will update this pack but no timeline. As for UP3, well most of the new content in DBW is being slowly filtered into UP3. Definitely expect it in UP3 final.



By the way, have to say a huge thank you to Muas Not only for his excellent work on this canopy, but again for giving me the hand up to make this pack.

[CWMV]

Amen.
With these new E-3 cockpits I think its safe to say that IL2 is wanting for nothing when compared to CoD.

[BaronFel181]

The U2 (1X MG-151/20 Motorkanone) and U3 (1X MK-108 Motorkanone) loadouts for the K-6 and K-14 no longer delete the wing mounted guns as they did in version 2.1 of this pack for 4.09m. This occurs in my SAS Modact 3.06 install with version 3.1 of this pack as well as DBW 1.4 and UP3 RC4. I really miss the option to carry a single cannon into combat. Anto, will you please change these loadouts back to their previous state, for this pack as well as DBW and UP3?

[skyrover]

Just like any other aircraft mods. Put the air.ini lines into the air.ini, etc.

Just like any other aircraft mods. Put the air.ini lines into the air.ini, etc.

maybe you can help me just before J mess up everything, before J add air.ini lines for this mod, had J to delete all the lines J already have for the bf-109? Thanks for your help

[redfox]

Just like any other aircraft mods. Put the air.ini lines into the air.ini, etc.

Just like any other aircraft mods. Put the air.ini lines into the air.ini, etc.

maybe you can help me just before J mess up everything, before J add air.ini lines for this mod, had J to delete all the lines J already have for the bf-109? Thanks for your help

No. But back up your air.ini first - just in case

[warhawk]

Hi, Skyrover, Here are the entries for ALL bf-109s from game and this pack, sorted by date

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Bf-109E-1         air.BF_109E1 2                       NOINFO   g01   SUMMER
Bf-109E-3         air.BF_109E3 2                       NOINFO   g01   SUMMER
Bf-109E-4         air.BF_109E4 2                                g01   SUMMER
Bf-109E-4/B       air.BF_109E4B 2                               g01   SUMMER
Bf-109E-4N        air.BF_109E4N 2                               g01   SUMMER
Bf-109E-7         air.BF_109E7 2                                g01   SUMMER
Bf-109E-7Z        air.BF_109E7NZ 2                              g01   SUMMER
Bf-109E-7N        air.BF_109E7N 2                               g01   SUMMER
Bf-109F-0         air.BF_109F0 2                                g01   WINTER
Bf-109F-1         air.BF_109F1 2                                g01   WINTER
Bf-109F-2         air.BF_109F2 2                                g01   WINTER
Bf-109F-2U        air.BF_109F2U 2                               g01   WINTER
Bf-109F-3         air.BF_109F3 2                                g01   WINTER
BF-109F-4_1.3ATA  air.BF_109F413ATA 2                           g01   SUMMER
Bf-109F-4         air.BF_109F4 2                                g01   WINTER
Bf-109F-4MSTL     air.BF_109F4MSTL 2           NOQUICK  NOINFO  g01   SUMMER
Bf-109F-4Z        air.BF_109F4Z 2                               g01   WINTER
Bf-109G-1      air.BF_109G1 2                        NOINFO  g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-2         air.BF_109G2 2                                g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-3      air.BF_109G3 2                        NOINFO  g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-4         air.BF_109G4 2                        NOINFO  g01   SUMMER 
Bf-109G-5   air.BF_109G5 2 NOINFO g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-5AS      air.BF_109G5AS 2         NOINFO g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-6_1.3ATA  air.BF_109G613ATA 2                           g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-6         air.BF_109G6 2                                g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-6_Erla   air.BF_109G6Erla 2 NOINFO g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-6_Mid   air.BF_109G6Mid 2 NOINFO g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-6_Late    air.BF_109G6Late 2                    NOINFO  g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-6AS       air.BF_109G6AS 2                              g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-14        air.BF_109G14 2                               g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-14AS      air.BF_109G14AS 2                             g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-10        air.BF_109G10 2                               g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-10_Erla   air.BF_109G10Erla 2                           g01   SUMMER
Bf-109G-10C3      air.BF_109G10C3 2                             g01   SUMMER
Bf-109K-4         air.BF_109K4 2                                g01   SUMMER
Bf-109K-4C3       air.BF_109K4C3 2                      NOINFO  g01   SUMMER
Bf-109K-6         air.BF_109K6 2                                g01   SUMMER
Bf-109K-14        air.BF_109K14 2                               g01   SUMMER
Bf-109Z           air.BF_109Z 2                                 g01   SUMMER

Just replace all 109s in air.ini with these and they should work

[skyrover]

Well,
Tnx to Redfox and Warhawk, J used the "list" he was so kind to send and everything is working fine, 
again tnx

[FANATIC MODDER]

To follow on from CirX post, if you aren't happy with the balance in the stock campaign, you can always change it. The stock Il-2 Bf-109 campaign is a static campaign, hence you can edit the mission files. I did this in the past to add in the new aircraft and in fact for the missions after 6/44 I replaced the G-6/AS with the G-14/AS. There is going to be another revision of the 109 pack in coming months, so some 'oddities' will be ironed out or reassessed.

Just to recall my point about the DB605 engines, I can't find the reference I had (lost my bookmarks list) but from memory, the AS engine was introduced into service in February 44 (cleared for GM1 usage around same time). AM engines arrived around April-May and I believe ASM engines around June/July. This again lends support to the argument that few G-6/AS aircraft had the DB605ASM engine and looking at service records on the Western Front, appearance of the engine in service corresponds with the deployment of the G-14/AS on the western front in July/August 44.

I like very much your effort and historical research for obtaining the best possible realism. I was not able to detect any "oddities" in v3.1 apart from one - we have the "hotrod" G-4 that goes like crazy and outperfoms almost everything in its way (however, for late '42 this is historically correct) and then we have a late G-6 with only 1.3 atm. It appears that most of G-6 that had both the erla and the tall tail were build from late '43 until mid '44, so even if we believe 100% that 1.42 appeared only after november '43 (sorry, I doubt) then a 1.3 atm late G-6 is an oddity, a plane that possibly existed in reality, but most likely a rarity.
Impressive are the performance differences between G-14/AS C3 and G-10 C3,  who 's the gifted one that did the FMs?

A suggestion - why not re-introduce G-6/ASM with G-14/AS 3D as a G-14/AS B4?

EDIT: I hope for a seperate (I fully understand that some people find them too many) pack that will re-introduce the "lost" Bf 109s as we knew them in UP 2.01. I am not asking for anything new, only something that already exists.

[FANATIC MODDER]

Oh sorry. Someone told me that they are already 1.42....