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Epervier

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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #132 on: January 23, 2012, 09:13:32 PM »

It seems that there is a problem in the arming of the F2/U Galland !
Here's a little patch: https://www.mediafire.com/?6ww3q8l3w67cj6n

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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #133 on: January 24, 2012, 09:44:17 AM »

Thanks Epervier!  8)
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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #134 on: January 24, 2012, 09:55:00 AM »

Issue was fixed a while ago, at least for DBW.

At some stage in the distant future this pack may get an update (pretty much, just a mod act version of these aircraft from DBW)
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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #135 on: January 24, 2012, 11:27:33 AM »

Correct! I was intrigued by the problem of Mikejr.
In UP3 and DBW everything works.
It is just this pack that has the problem!
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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #136 on: January 27, 2012, 01:54:14 PM »

This is fantastic! I just wish that some of those described in 3.1 were for 4.09.  :'(
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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #137 on: January 27, 2012, 03:19:09 PM »

Hi Anto
Is your pack included in DBW 1.6 or I have to download and install them manually
Thanks for a great job in one of my favorite plane
All the best
Gerson   
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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #138 on: January 31, 2012, 09:36:41 PM »

Yep a newer version is included in DBW.
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« Reply #139 on: February 01, 2012, 07:19:05 AM »

Yep a newer version is included in DBW.

Will this newer version be made avaliable for standalone SAS Modact 3.06 for 4.10.1?  :( Or can I extract it from DBW?

Michael.
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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #140 on: February 01, 2012, 10:02:02 AM »

And was anyone else to put this package to version 4.11? I've tried. By the way! Thank you for the new ogoromnoe buttonz for 4.11 =). So I put it there and I have solid problem = (. In general. If someone put it on 11.4 Please describe if you can detail how to set and most importantly what version.  ;)
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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #141 on: February 01, 2012, 10:16:42 PM »

Patience fellas, there is only 24hrs in a day. At some stage this year I hope to come back to these and release an updated version for 4.11m. Until then, be happy with what you have ;)
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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #142 on: February 02, 2012, 12:00:13 AM »

Anto, you're my favourite modder atm mate, what can I say, so much dedication to which we all benefit, thanks bud.

Has anyone mentioned the recon glitch, if you pick the F4 recon minus the MG151 it still gets the motorgun. Can we delete the cannon and ammo counter for the recon F4?
Any C3 G10 or K4 need to be read as 1945 aircraft too, only documentation is for possible (speculative) Mar45 for any 1.98ata G10 or K4, at one particular airfield in fact, which was traced by LEMB using fuel delivery records and OOB documents (which inferred this is the only airfield that had them, but it definitely only got C3 fuel delivered yet operated regularly G10, G14/AS and K4). A G14/AS_late I once suggested is largely superfluous (though I have some documents for it), as it is essentially identical to a G10 during 1945 production. The G14/AS using the 605ASM is 1944 production, in Feb-Mar45 it switched to 605ASB/C production (as I said I've documentation if you'd like it).

Little historical conjecture, this one is actually from my grandmother and her friend who flew in africa, when I was a kid they gave me a Messer scale model and schooled me on Galland's planes because I decided to make an Emil out of it (you could make any Messer E-G from the kit, 1:42). I liked the way the Emil looked tough and bulky, I was 12. It looked tougher than the Gustav or Friedrich which looked too elegant for me. So Oma met Galland once, and Guenter knew all the Messers in detail, so I got about an hour lecture on all Galland's custom planes. Long time ago, they're dead now, I can't really back anything up I'm saying here (for what it's worth, my family name is Bogatsch). But here's what I remember clearly, his F was specially delivered, he was pretty proud of the fact that by Nov40 he had the fastest Messer in the entire Luftwaffe bar none. So his F had the N-motor, the GM-1, 7.92 in the cowling and MGFF/M in the wings. MGFF overheated in the engine block and jammed after 5-15rds, it was always the problem with them. There was conjecture at the time about the standardised new F was going to get MG131 in the wings and MG17 in the cowling. No motorgun. Moelders wanted a motorgun, but it was waiting on the MG151 and they weren't ready until about Mar41. Willy Messerschmitt never wanted guns in the wings.
So the confusion between these three preferences is what causes all the confusion. I don't believe Galland ever had MG131 in the cowling on his F, he had MG17 and MGFF/M in the wings. Moelders wanted centreline armament, Willy Messer didn't want guns in the wings in the first place (structure not built for it). Then the common assumption that the MGFF/M in the wings would be replaced by MG131. Secretly Messer was always planning the MG151 motorgun. So what you wind up with is a lot of confusion.

Otherwise, love this mod so bad. It is my must have mod, above all others for Il2. Mate, you're a shining star for this.
:) thank you as always Anto.
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Re: Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
« Reply #143 on: February 02, 2012, 12:21:47 AM »

Cheers Vanir!

Didn't realize there was a glitch with the F-4 recon loadouts, I'll check them out. And I haven't forgotten about fixing the late war 109 engine/boost settings, just been low on the priority list.

Interesting story about Galland's BF-109F. When making it, the loadouts I selected seemed to fit with what the majority of the lecture said but like many 'facts' from that time, they can get distorted with other stories. Thanks for sharing it though.
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