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asheshouse

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Fleet Air Arm Swastika Markings!
« on: May 12, 2011, 12:19:19 PM »

Extract from Warship Profile 24 - HMS Furious
Blackburn Dart makes the first night landing on a carrier in 1926.
Anyone know anything more about the reason for the wheel hub markings.
How long were these used for?
The Blackburn Dart was a torpedo plane used by 461 and 462 flights Fleet Air Arm on Furious from 1923
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Re: Fleet Air Arm Swastika Markings!
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 12:29:42 PM »

no political reason - that's for sure. swasticas were as common as any other "sign" at the time...i remember an us state park having on on the official logo bf ww2 - plus by 1924 NSDAP was half in jail half forgotten...its rise was later
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Re: Fleet Air Arm Swastika Markings!
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 12:38:52 PM »

The swastika is thousands of years old, it doesnt always have to be connected with Nazi Germany

for example the US 45th Infantry went to WW1 with the logo
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Re: Fleet Air Arm Swastika Markings!
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2011, 12:42:21 PM »

The swastika is thousands of years old, it doesnt always have to be connected with Nazi Germany

for example the US 45th Infantry went to WW1 with the logo

Finns. They used it from 1918...
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Re: Fleet Air Arm Swastika Markings!
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2011, 12:53:16 PM »



The US 12th Infantry Regiment still has it on their official crest today, albeit counter-clockwise and adorning the lodge skin of a native tipi, which dates back even further of course.

Certainly is an interesting photo of the Dart though; don't recall seeing that one before.
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Re: Fleet Air Arm Swastika Markings!
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2011, 01:58:03 PM »

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Re: Fleet Air Arm Swastika Markings!
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 03:44:14 PM »

Swastikas weren't just a Nazi symbol, you find them on Roman stuff (eg Lullingstone Roman villa, somewhere - presumably near Lullingstone , England)

There's photos of Brisfits over the middle east with them, pretty sure there are ww1 photos where the occasional rfc aircraft sports one. Never very often.

We crossed the idea of the swastika very early in my degree course, if I remember, it was an indian symbol of good luck (among other cultures) or something like that, so my educated guesstimate is that the british, being at the time kind of a big deal in India, adopted it, along with various other bits and bobs.. Food, words, symbols etc. That's where the british got it. It's a bit like people slapping the ace of spades everywhere in various militaries (US, I'm lookin' at you in particular) - just another interesting symbol although it rather went out of fasion when some arsehole from austria took a shine to it..
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Re: Fleet Air Arm Swastika Markings!
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 06:43:18 PM »

The swastika is also a symbol of Buddism in Japan. If you look on any maps of Japan, Buddist temple sites are symbolized with swastikas.
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Re: Fleet Air Arm Swastika Markings!
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 08:28:11 PM »

The swastika is also a symbol of Buddism in Japan. If you look on any maps of Japan, Buddist temple sites are symbolized with swastikas.


It's similar in South Korea, where the swastika signifies Buddhist temples, too. A few years ago, my wife and I stood in front of such a temple in Korea, while a Korean guy on a scooter pulled up to deliver something. As he passed the temple-sign on the outer wall, I noticed that his motorcycle helmet was pretty much of the same shape as the German military helmet of WW II. I didn't have a camera handy at the time, but believe me, it constituted quite an interesting image that could easily have been misconstrued.  ;)

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Re: Fleet Air Arm Swastika Markings!
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2011, 06:13:43 AM »

Just a little other thing, it was also the symbol of Thunor, an Anglo-Saxon god equivilent to Thor of Germanic paganism.
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