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[Schwieger]

Found a pic of what appears to be an Me-209H for IL-2:



Anybody know anything about this?

[Redman]

I think that this is one of Slows creations

[SAS~Anto]

It's not a Me-209H, but a P1091. It was one of Slow's frakenplane projects and I offered to help him with a new slot. Unfortunately the 3D is no where near the standard expected for the game and you would require significant remapping, so it was canned.

[SAS~Friction]

I was one of the skinners slated to do skins on it, and I can certainly verify Anto is correct. Almost the entire plane was out of whack, it needed remapped very badly.

Regards
Friction

[razor1uk]

  I can in the style of 'what if..?' thinking that it's just as well as Messerschmitt hadn't of got around to using something akin to the Bf 109X/V-21's style of more curved fusalage once for prouduction, with fitting the pipework in shaped internal ducting or semi-recessed within the new fuz.
  The cockpit might be a little less wider below the cockpit hood stringers with an internal cockpit side wall skinning to fuz structure (to help protect the cockpit from heat and leaks/damage to the pipework in the fuz), but the wing attachment points could have been spaced a little further apart but I suppose that it would be too similar to the 190 in many ways...

  Although it would have in the least, improved the high altitude handling, reducing drag and vortex generated effects by that exposed pipwork on all on oneside. If a radial water cooling was used with a 605 in it too... But techically speaking, things didn't go that way so.
  I wonder if there was any Messerchmitt (or other,) experiments data on long span 109 wings/extended-wingtips on/of F/G/K style or basis?
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Cheers for the #5 posting below Anto

  Didn't they only extend the wings by inseritng spacing wing sections, basically extending the wingroot attachment of existing F type wings outwards?
  If so wouldn't the structural frequency/flex/design-parameters of the flight loaded structure would all be out of whack/tune, and hence no wonder they suffered flutter at high speeds/diving; possibly due to too little or no washout, with possible production impefections on/in the wingtips assuming they were normal Friedrich tips too.

[SAS~Anto]

There was the Bf-109H that actually saw service. It was essentially a Bf-109F with a GM-1 nitrous injection system added, plus an extended set of wings. The program was cancelled after a handful were built and fielded. The extended wings caused severe flutter problems in a dive and engine technology had caught up to allow the standard 109 frame to reach those altitudes (i.e. larger, multi-stage superchargers)

[woofiedog]

Found this info about this bird... seems they also used a G5 in a rebuild for a H model.

http://www.ghostbombers.com/recon/109/bf109h_1.html

http://www.airlandseaweapons.com/blog/61317-messerschmitt-bf-109h/

Warthol:

The Kommandeur said: “What do you want? The ‘H’ has been up to 14200 m.” The Gruppenführer did that on the firm’s trial with the ‘H’; according to the barogram and according to the altimeter. A special altimeter had been installed, which went up to 15000 m. A special barograph had also been installed, which also registered up to 15000 m.

 “What more do you want? With the ‘H’ you can outclimb any enemy. aircraft.” We had to explain to him that we could get away for the moment by climbing, but we couldn’t remain at a height of 14200 m, because we hadn’t got the petrol for it. The ‘H’ has such a heavy consumption of petrol at high altitude that you can’t keep it up. In the end the ‘H’ has to come down again. Then it is capable of 650 k.p.h.

Lt. Alexander Ottnad:

Well, I’ll be damned. All one can say is: ‘H’ — (Heinrich) — you make me shudder!”


0ttnad:
 How did it bank?
 
Warthol:
 Damnably! You could only bank at more than 30º. SCHÄFER (?) and I were selected for it, we were to fly on those sorties with the ‘H’. We sat down and had a good binge. For a long time we considered placing it in the middle of the airfield and letting it be smashed up by Mustangs or something. It was fitted for methanol and GM 1. A double purpose. Actually it climbed splendidly! I climbed to 8000 [with] methanol. I switched over to methanol at low level and climbed and in five minutes l was at 8000 m.