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[mac1]

Gasoline doesnt require a "magic ratio" to catch fire at all, it only governs the completeness of the burn. Imagine you're engine is on fire burning the extra fuel out the back at a few hundred degrees celsius, you dont shut down fast enough, the starter fuel tanks vapours could in theory autoignite from the heat alone. The internal engine oils

                           Flashpoint         Autoignition point(no direct flame required)
Gasoline (petrol)   -43 °C (-45 °F)           246 °C (495 °F)
Diesel                   >62 °C (143 °F)           210 °C (410 °F)
Jet fuel            >60 °C (140 °F)           210 °C

[Murray]

It won't flash without the right amount of air and heat.  Gas, air, heat, in the right mixture, equals flames.

Knock just one of them out of whack, too little or too much, and it won't work. Too much air? Won't ignite. Too little gas? Won't ignite.

Etc.



P.S. Sorry if I seem to be getting a little excited, hehehe, it's a great discussion and I'll try to keep my composure here. 

[Knochenlutscher]

What do have in common Me 262 and "Mythbuster"? WWII plane and Reallity TV, produced somewhere in the deep Pampa, to take care of unemployed at times when others need to work, or to get on your nerve with their ugly beards and experiments.
I have strong glasses too and an academic degree, but I don't have ADHS and don't need Retardin.
You didn't recalled they had an episode where they smashed the Me 262 engine flame myth, if you say this, our whole discussion is pointless, needless. rely on sth. other than toilets crashing Hillbillies. Their world changing physics in honour, it's nothing my old 75 yrs old teacher wouldn't taught us.
If they say in heaven is fair you believe? It's entertainment, there we are back at stock Me 262/1C and characteristics, maybe you just can't get fun out of it?
You're making fun of me? Coming with Mythbusters, §$%&?#
What comes next, "Vera am Mittag" or "Switch reloaded", the wartime diaries of JG7, those that burn.
mega, ultra, hardcore LOL

Now you have it, the disaster, see what you caused? It's all kaputt,  I sweared not use LOL, not one time in my life.
I need a coffee/sto gram and a strong Cigarette

[Murray]

Knoch, I gave it simply as a "even these guys did this" type of thing.

There is a lot of misinformation going around from 5 generations of Hollywood BS being presented to the world.

For example, 100 octane gas will ONLY ignite if the ratio to air is between 1.4 and 7.6 percent. Any more than 7.6 percent and you won't ignite it even if you present it with an open flame/spark/heat-source.

This is science. There are facts and scientific results in this world. They are not reflected in this aspect of Me262s in this game.

If it were some arbitrary decision made for gameplay reasons I wouldn't be so annoyed, but the pretense is that "this is based on historical fact" despite the fact that it's most likely based on historic misinterpretation and flies in the face of reason and science.


EDIT: Let me say this, at the risk of not making any friends: Complexity for the sake of difficulty is not the same as realistic. Arbitrary handicaps, while they CAN be overcome, should not always be implemented. If you want to imply I'm not "good enough" to fly the 262 feel free. I'll simply say "good enough" for what? Based on what? Compared to what? Clearly some folks think the engine flames are fine as-is. Just because you get used to them doesn't mean it's accurate.

Another edit: For the record, I was not making fun of you in any way. I was being serious.

[santobr]

Also: Name ONE pilot that died from engine flames (in flight) caused by throttle movement. I don't think you can. There's no evidence so far that it happened that way.

Murray.


santobr.

[Knochenlutscher]

Murray, you should read better, I said RLM got aware of accidents, where pilots suffered burnings and intoxications, if they all died I would have said that. BTW. this quote of me didn't stood in any relation to your mentioned prob, it was just a side quote, nobody knows where to put it, even the authors, but you, you can read between the lines?
You twist my words, no one here's is doing that with you.
You can get yourself a copy of Me 262 combat diary, there it's listed, accidents, % of damage caused, I don't have time discussing this in detail. You still think it's all unreliable data...

[mac1]

Chill out Knock!

For example, 100 octane gas will ONLY ignite if the ratio to air is between 1.4 and 7.6 percent. Any more than 7.6 percent and you won't ignite it even if you present it with an open flame/spark/heat-source.

This is science. There are facts and scientific results in this world. They are not reflected in this aspect of Me262s in this game.

Id have to disagree with the only ignite in a certain ratio, a puddle of gasoline will burn in atmospheric air... Where did you get the ratios from.

[SAS~Anto]

Try the Ultimate Me-262 mod. I altered the behaviour so it was less common, but surging and flameouts are more likely to occur. Engine fires are still a risk for those who use the throttle abusively

[Murray]

Auto, I was just coming back to the forum to let folks know I like your mod! I especially love the compressor flameout! Nice touch and a bit of an "oh, crap!" moment in the middle of virtual combat. I still lit on fire from enemy bullets, as is only right.

I love it! Thanks!