Topic: Rental Model IJN BB (Read 84036 times)

western0221 · « **Reply #96 on:** October 03, 2011, 11:26:16 AM »

These 3 days, I use 3ds Max9 SP2 and UV unwrap Kongo model.

Kongo model is used many multi materials from its original.
I do UV unwrap to need "damaged" skin meshes only, other materials keep original.

Then I feel Max9's "Multi/Sub Material" is buggy.
Max9 doesn't work I need.

Now I solve it by handy way...
select material ID by Modify panel's polygon menu and "Detach" 1 material and another material.
When 3 materials used, I get 3 "single" material objects.
After UV unwrap, do "Attach" all , I can get a non-buggy multi materials object.
Is this right?

asheshouse · « **Reply #97 on:** October 03, 2011, 12:58:07 PM »

I have never thought to do it that way but it sounds like a good method to me.

SAS~Malone · « **Reply #98 on:** October 03, 2011, 02:35:36 PM »

i'm not sure if the damage model is not completed, but i'm finding it way too easy to sink the Nagato.
one 500lb'er does the trick....actually, once it sank from a bomb that exploded a few meters away from the side of the hull.
is there more work to be done on the damage capabilities?
currently she doesn't pose much of a threat - way too easy to sink...

razor1uk · « **Reply #99 on:** October 04, 2011, 09:21:01 AM »

I suppose to start of with it under-armoured is slightly easier to work out what, where, and which data needs changing, than it being over-armoured and going hunting for needles in the haystack...
Continued good luck Western & crew.

Whiskey_Sierra_972 · « **Reply #100 on:** October 18, 2011, 11:41:25 AM »

Hi mate!

Tested succesfully in my 409 installation but I noticed in the log that something strange happen even if test mission load and run fine!

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Load bridges
Load static objects
Loading mission Single/Mod_Test.mis...
Load bridges
Load static objects
sFMDir = gui/game/buttons
s1 = flightmodels/prattwhitney_r-2000_series.emd
s = FlightModels/PrattWhitney_R-2000_Series.emd
m_lastFMFile = gui/game/buttons
Mission: Single/Mod_Test.mis is Playing
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.
Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!
WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow.

Those warning lines are repeated for about 28 MB of space in the log ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

western0221 · « **Reply #101 on:** October 19, 2011, 10:58:44 AM »

Hello.
I will show you a new IJN BB in some days.

Quote from: walter_solito on October 18, 2011, 11:41:25 AM

Hi mate!

Tested succesfully in my 409 installation but I noticed in the log that something strange happen even if test mission load and run fine!

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Load bridges Load static objects Loading mission Single/Mod_Test.mis... Load bridges Load static objects sFMDir = gui/game/buttons s1 = flightmodels/prattwhitney_r-2000_series.emd s = FlightModels/PrattWhitney_R-2000_Series.emd m_lastFMFile = gui/game/buttons Mission: Single/Mod_Test.mis is Playing WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow. Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh! WARNING: TRenderManager::TriangleList_ProjectiveShadow()- internal buffer overflow. Too many vertexes or faces per shadow hier mesh!

Oh... I havn't found this error.
At seeing moving well in game, I havn't checked log.
I will check again.
Probably shadow mesh ([Sh...]) are too many polys.
I make shadow mesh only LOD0's clone.
I have to reduce thier polys.

western0221 · « **Reply #102 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:08:05 AM »

Humm...

Quote from: SAS~Malone on October 03, 2011, 02:35:36 PM

i'm not sure if the damage model is not completed, but i'm finding it way too easy to sink the Nagato.
one 500lb'er does the trick....actually, once it sank from a bomb that exploded a few meters away from the side of the hull.
is there more work to be done on the damage capabilities?
currently she doesn't pose much of a threat - way too easy to sink...

I feel the same about bombing.
At torpedo, Nagato is enough to withstand.

I use default ships.ini strength definition "strength_HullEnorm" as Nagato's vitals strength.

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[strength_HullEnorm]
MinShotCaliber    0.203
NumShots          148
MinHitExplTNT     64
NumHitExpl        16
MinNearExplTNT    100 //130
NumNearExpl       32

This is the most strong parameter in default ships.ini. Same as KGV or Tirpiz.
If this "strength_HullEnorm" is too weak, I will make new - stronger parameter.
What parameters are fit, do you think?

western0221 · « **Reply #103 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:11:24 PM »

I think that I finish 3ds Max works about Kongo BB.
And starting exporting by Maraz Expoter.
Then... I cannot export some objects. Max freezes.
whole work source is here zip ~~ttp://www.mediafire.com/?k9dtgmcfcawk7au~~

Troubled objects are...
AAAScopeOutL (seems AAAScopeOutL_01 or _02)
AAAScopeOutL_dmg (seems AAAScopeOutL_dmg_01 or _02)
AAAScopeOutR (seems AAAScopeOutR_01 or _02)
AAAScopeOutR_dmg (seems AAAScopeOutR_dmg_01 or _02)
GunSubCanScope1
GunSubCanScope2

AAAScopeOut...02s are made from Create-StandardPrimitives-Cylinder -- Convert To Editable Mesh
_00 and _01 are hand-made polygons

GunSubCanScope...s are made from Create-StandardPrimitives-Box -- Convert To Editable Mesh

At first, I forgot to convert to editable mesh.
But after do "Convert To Editable Mesh", 3ds Max still freezes.

I made other Scope's gun (Gun10mScope_00) same process "Create-StandardPrimitives-Box -- Convert To Editable Mesh", but it is able to export.

Anything wrong ??

asheshouse · « **Reply #104 on:** October 20, 2011, 02:08:42 AM »

I'll take a look.

western0221 · « **Reply #105 on:** October 20, 2011, 03:46:58 AM »

Sorry,
One is my easy mistake.

Quote from: western0221 on October 19, 2011, 11:11:24 PM

Troubled objects are...
AAAScopeOutL (seems AAAScopeOutL_01 or _02)
AAAScopeOutL_dmg (seems AAAScopeOutL_dmg_01 or _02)
AAAScopeOutR (seems AAAScopeOutR_01 or _02)
AAAScopeOutR_dmg (seems AAAScopeOutR_dmg_01 or _02)
GunSubCanScope1
GunSubCanScope2

AAAScopeOut...02s are made from Create-StandardPrimitives-Cylinder -- Convert To Editable Mesh
_00 and _01 are hand-made polygons

GunSubCanScope...s are made from Create-StandardPrimitives-Box -- Convert To Editable Mesh

At GunSubCanScope1 and GunSubCanScope2, I forgot suffix "_00" in objects' names.
After adding suffix "_00", Max exports them well.

At AAAScopeOutL_02 and AAAScopeOutR_02 , they were made not Cylinder. It's my mis-memory.
I made AAAScopeOutL_02 by Create - Shape - NGon - "16Gon" --- Modifire - Parametric Deformer - Shell --- extend vertexes by manual.
This NGon--Shell made object sometimes occurs freeze at Maraz expoter, I test other simple environment again, and freeze I see.
But at gio's destroyers editing, I used NGon--Shell and exporting well, in my memory... but today...
Then, I replace AAAScopeOutL_02 and AAAScopeOutR_02 by Cylinder. And exported well.

Now I get all the .msh of Kongo BB.
I will show you Kongo's BETA soon.

About NGon--Shell made object problem, I will ask Maraz with simple .max/.cfg zip via AAS's PM.
In August, I send PM to Maraz and I had responce from him.

asheshouse · « **Reply #106 on:** October 20, 2011, 06:01:02 AM »

So you have fixed the problem?

Other place to contact Maraz is at 242 Squadron http://www.242sqn.com
You should ask about latest version of the exporter.
The one at AAS may not be the latest version.

Ashe

western0221 · « **Reply #107 on:** October 20, 2011, 06:14:00 AM »

A half is fixed(my easy mistake).
Another half... Passing through the detour? (by google translate, sorry broken English)

Quote from: asheshouse on October 20, 2011, 06:01:02 AM

So you have fixed the problem?

Other place to contact Maraz is at 242 Squadron http://www.242sqn.com
You should ask about latest version of the exporter.
The one at AAS may not be the latest version.

Ashe

Thank you.
I'm using still AAS old version.
I ask him about latest version and NGon-Shell problem.

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