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[gianluca]

please Pablo let us know the specs of your screen: do one needs a 70hz + refreshing rate screen in order to have the mod working? this would of course make things a bit more complicated.....
Gianluca

PS: keep on!

[Tute]

I have a laptop with 60HZ fixed refresh rate, and it works for me. Ati Mobility Radeon HD, i7 Core @1.6, Win 7, DBW, OpenGl, not a monster rig but does the job. Thanks, Pablo!
Tute.

[Blumax]

An update on my last post.......i've got this running on a 60HZ flatscreen this morning but is very shaky so it would seem that the refresh rate isn't the issue but obviously the more the refresh rate the better, still can't get it in open gl though only direct x with a nvidea gtx 480 and v-sync off and ecran wide disabled, win xp, 8gb ram, duel core

regards Blumax

[benitomuso]

People,
               thank you for the feedback.

   As a wrap up from the latest comments:

  -Blumax told us that it works over DirectX if you have a good refresh rate (>70fps). That's nice. I would not believed it could work in DirectX. But my monitors, which are only 60Hz really don't show anything.

  -Regarding the questions: you don't need very high speed refresh. Situation as far as I understand is that with V-Synch on (let's say you have a refresh of 60Hz), if you Il-2 reaches 60fps when playing, you almost don't see any flicker. Only some artifacts from the light and the water. As soon as your fps counter goes down the refresh rate, you start to suffer this flicker. This could be "solved" with a hardcoded synchronization, but I didn't find the way of doing it in OpenGL.

  -It would be nice to contrast this last OpenGL behaviour with DirectX. Bluemax, could you detail more in depth your experiences?

  -Do all nVIDIA and ATI users experience apart from the flicker, the sea and sun artifacts and sporeous reflections?

  -Do any of you have an almost continuous very high fps rate (>80). If so, with V-Synch disabled, the Stereo 3D looks OK or it has horizontal lines?

  Thanks. Regards,
                                  Pablo

[PA_Willy]

  -Do any of you have an almost continuous very high fps rate (>80). If so, with V-Synch disabled, the Stereo 3D looks OK or it has horizontal lines?

Horizontal lines present. A lot of flickering. I get 100fps almost constant (SLI GTX 480 with CPU at 5.0Ghz). With Vsync you don't see the bands (lines) but flickering is there yet.

I haven't got artifacts.

[X-Raptor]

Hi Pablo, my report with 3D Vers. 3:

ATI X1950XTX card   FPS > 50 with test mission (3xp40 on Smolensk map, I fly the 3rd last one)
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 245 60 Hz


- I Have 3D effect, and can change intensity of it with mouse weel, but I have 3D ONLY to Cockpit instruments external planes are the same, NO 3D.
- With V-Sync On I have the above descripted , with V-Sync OFF I have the orizontal big red lines on monitor.

Please Pablo If you can write here your ATI CONTROL PANEL SETTINGS as to compare why I have no 3D in external planes but only in-cocpit intrument panel, cloche, frame screen etc..

also I use Ati Tray tool (no Catalyst Control Center) may be this the problem?

[HansHansen]

thanks for your hard work Pablo

unfortunately it still doesnt work well.

If i want to start the game with 3D enabled, the game stucks at 100% mission loading and the screen becomes red.

If i start the game with 3D disabled and then enable it in flight, i get red and blue bars going up and down the screen without vsync.
with vsync enabled it seems red and blue frames are alternating. however the game is stuck when i try to fly in cockpit view and continues after i go to external view.

[shardana]

This is really funny, it works perfectly for me and flawlessy, or at least as stated by Pablo, what a pityI'll have to wait till the mod can be used by us crossed eyed people hahahaha, if ever this man can make it work so! thanks anyway for you great effort!!!

[Blumax]

My further experience with this now is i can only get version one working on a 60HZ lcd flatscreen and only in direct x i can't get any other version working on this screen.... v-sync on/off makes no difference i'm getting lines, shakes and the blue and red image seem to far removed from each other.

A point of interest though for those who have the 3d set from E-Dimmensional version one of this mod seems to enhance the quality ( direct x) and make it a very worthwhile and fantastic experience but again it only seems to do it on the 70hz monitor and not with the 60hz, yet exactly the same set up.....i can't explain why this is.

I went to the E-Dimmensional website to trouble shoot flicker and shake.....this is what it reads

 
Why does my screen flicker (shake)? How can I raise my refresh rate?
Go to the stereo properties and click Stereo setup and test. Change your refresh rate to 85hz, 100 hz or higher. Then hit the button at the bottom that says "Set rate for all resolutions." After that has been done, go to the top of that window and select 32 bit. When that button for 32 bit is checked, go back down to the Stereo Refresh rate. Go to 85 or 100hz (either one, you can change it later) and hit Set rate for all resolutions. Then you will be locked in at 85 or 100hz (or higher) for any resolution your game runs; and either bit depth setting. Then close those windows and load the game. Your refresh rate should be improved.

That will give you a clearer picture. When you remove the glasses during a game you should hardly see any flicker, sometimes even none at all. When the shaking, or flickering is barely visibile, your refresh rate is optimized. Put your glasses back on and your screen will be set perfectly. 
 

[X-Raptor]

My further experience with this now is i can only get version one working on a 60HZ lcd flatscreen and only in direct x i can't get any other version working on this screen.... v-sync on/off makes no difference i'm getting lines, shakes and the blue and red image seem to far removed from each other.

A point of interest though for those who have the 3d set from E-Dimmensional version one of this mod seems to enhance the quality ( direct x) and make it a very worthwhile and fantastic experience but again it only seems to do it on the 70hz monitor and not with the 60hz, yet exactly the same set up.....i can't explain why this is.

I went to the E-Dimmensional website to trouble shoot flicker and shake.....this is what it reads

 
Why does my screen flicker (shake)? How can I raise my refresh rate?
Go to the stereo properties and click Stereo setup and test. Change your refresh rate to 85hz, 100 hz or higher. Then hit the button at the bottom that says "Set rate for all resolutions." After that has been done, go to the top of that window and select 32 bit. When that button for 32 bit is checked, go back down to the Stereo Refresh rate. Go to 85 or 100hz (either one, you can change it later) and hit Set rate for all resolutions. Then you will be locked in at 85 or 100hz (or higher) for any resolution your game runs; and either bit depth setting. Then close those windows and load the game. Your refresh rate should be improved.

That will give you a clearer picture. When you remove the glasses during a game you should hardly see any flicker, sometimes even none at all. When the shaking, or flickering is barely visibile, your refresh rate is optimized. Put your glasses back on and your screen will be set perfectly.

So you tell we have to D/l E-dimensional software to have this mod work??

[X-Raptor]

UPDATE PROGRESS: version 3 of the mod---- 

Now I Have 3D in-cockpit panel instruments and also external planes wieving from cockpit.-V-Sync need to be set ON- (ATI card)
The problem is the great difference in steroscopic division needed to see external planes in 3D (blue/red shadows in shape of planes without goggles).

In-cockpit view instruments is sufficent a little stereoscopic value eg. 10-12 value BUT so I dont see any difference from standard game for external planes.
BUT If I greatly increase the stereoscopic division with the mouse weel (over value e.g.  20-25..) I start to see blu/red shadows for external planes too.. but the whole monitor image then start to fliker alot and cockpit instrument 3D is override (too much 3D)

Any feedback about this?

[Blumax]

No don't go downloading E-D software that's solely for their glasses i'm just demonstrating that their solution for flicker and shake is to increase monitor refresh rate to at least 85hz, this is what causes issues with their 3d set up so i just thought it might be usefull information